Hello,
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 07:29:05 +0200
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Your limited knowledge is like jam. The less you have, the more you
spread it.
Well, you have just confirmed this statement.
What you actually like about ifupdown is that it cannot do anything
but extremely
* Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [110405 20:29]:
I think it might be nice if those two aspects could be isolated somehow.
This could also reduce the size of some build chroots and the set of
packages
any boot-strap code has to handle specially[1]. With all the essential
stuff only
Hi,
As of base-files 6.2 which went into unstable yesterday, we have a
new top-level directory, /run.
This directory will contain a tmpfs which will be present from early
boot, and which will replace /var/run. This will be done by
initscripts, which we are waiting to be uploaded. For the time
On 06 Apr 09:10, Andrew O. Shadoura wrote:
Hello,
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 07:29:05 +0200
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
Your limited knowledge is like jam. The less you have, the more you
spread it.
Well, you have just confirmed this statement.
What you actually like about
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 07:29:05 +0200, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org wrote:
... and since it’s not event-based you have to hard-code the way your
network is set up.
I think this is the vital difference -- those that prefer ifupdown do so
because they prefer to be in tight control of what is
Hi -devel!
We (lindi, liw and me) had just a short discussion in #-devel, that it
would be nice to have some sort of Vcs-Upstream-* in debian/control, to
be able to get to upstreams vcs history if it is not imported in
debian's vcs (which is often the case when using svn-bp or git-bf with
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 10:54:53 (CEST), Roger Leigh wrote:
As of base-files 6.2 which went into unstable yesterday, we have a
new top-level directory, /run.
This directory will contain a tmpfs which will be present from early
boot, and which will replace /var/run. This will be done by
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 at 01:55:20 +0200, Carsten Hey wrote:
It would also need to assure that whilst
it is running /bin/sh is always functional. Passing a shell to it that
is not included in /etc/shells could lead to failing of this tool,
unless --force is used.
Not everything in /etc/shells
Am Mittwoch, den 06.04.2011, 12:06 +0200 schrieb Evgeni Golov:
Hi -devel!
We (lindi, liw and me) had just a short discussion in #-devel, that it
would be nice to have some sort of Vcs-Upstream-* in debian/control, to
be able to get to upstreams vcs history if it is not imported in
debian's
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:18:32 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 10:54:53 (CEST), Roger Leigh wrote:
As of base-files 6.2 which went into unstable yesterday, we have a
new top-level directory, /run.
This directory will contain a tmpfs which will be present from
On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 01:09 +, brian m. carlson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 05:15:15PM +0200, Vincent Caron wrote:
2/ It is suggested to update gnupg.conf with:
personal-digest-preferences SHA256
cert-digest-algo SHA256
default-preference-list SHA512 SHA384 SHA256 SHA224
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:18:32 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 10:54:53 (CEST), Roger Leigh wrote:
As of base-files 6.2 which went into unstable yesterday, we have a
new top-level directory, /run.
This directory will contain a tmpfs which will be present
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On 2011-04-06 13:12, Noel David Torres Taño wrote:
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:18:32 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 10:54:53 (CEST), Roger Leigh wrote:
As of base-files 6.2 which went into unstable yesterday, we have a
new
Hi,
On 2011-04-05 20:37:39 +0300, Andrew O. Shadoura wrote:
Hello,
On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 14:31:40 +0200
Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net wrote:
[About the general problem of documentation]
The problem is to find the correct tools and the correct
documentation. For instance, imagine
On 2011-04-06 11:22:07 +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
Not everything in /etc/shells is POSIXy enough to be /bin/sh. The
*csh family aren't Bourne shells, and while zsh is a very nice
Bourne-ish interactive shell, in its default configuration it isn't
POSIX-compliant.
When invoked as sh, zsh
On 04/05/2011 06:55 PM, Martin Wuertele wrote:
* Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de [2011-04-05 15:04]:
On 04/04/2011 01:15 PM, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
most of the work is done by our upstreams, and by simply telling
them we'll freeze PICK_YOUR_MONTH every even/odd year will (in the long
term)
On 2011-04-06 07:24:30 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
There are several hacks to do that (like guessnet or laptop-net), but I
don’t think this can work correctly in the general case with IPv4.
FYI, I had used laptop-net in the past, but it has been removed
from Debian:
On 04/06/2011 04:54 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
Hi,
As of base-files 6.2 which went into unstable yesterday, we have a
new top-level directory, /run.
This directory will contain a tmpfs which will be present from early
boot, and which will replace /var/run.
Why this change?
Thomas
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On 04/06/2011 03:13 PM, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 04/06/2011 04:54 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
Hi,
As of base-files 6.2 which went into unstable yesterday, we have a
new top-level directory, /run.
This directory will contain a tmpfs which will be present from early
boot, and which will replace
Hi,
I do not think that it is a good idea to push for 4k RSA keys! You gain
nothing from it except for slowness on small devices. Debian is used on
a lot of small devices. Further DDs are strongly represented in the WoT
and thus many keyrings will increase in size and checking all the
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 02:11:35PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2011-04-06 07:24:30 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
There are several hacks to do that (like guessnet or laptop-net), but I
don’t think this can work correctly in the general case with IPv4.
FYI, I had used laptop-net in
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 09:54:53AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
I'm just mentioning this here because udev started to use /run before
we had completed our work, and without a versioned dependency, causing
breakage. If you are planning on using /run, please hold fire for a
few days longer until
Am 06.04.2011 15:50, schrieb Roger Leigh:
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 09:54:53AM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
I'm just mentioning this here because udev started to use /run before
we had completed our work, and without a versioned dependency, causing
breakage. If you are planning on using /run,
Brett Parker idu...@sommitrealweird.co.uk writes:
Everything that you can do with ifupdown you can do with network
manager,
That's simply not true.
You cannot use n-m remotely without having some out-of-band access.
For a start. Fix that, and I'll come back with the next issue. You
don't
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes:
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 11:12:29AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote:
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 at 11:12:54 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
On Sat, Apr 02, 2011 at 12:36:05AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
Specifically, the plan is that any package in wheezy shipping
Russell Coker russ...@coker.com.au writes:
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Yaroslav Halchenko deb...@onerussian.com wrote:
sorry for a blunt follow-up -- wouldn't making /var/run writable by
regular mortals ask for security concerns if an attacker starts
pre-creating files/pipes trying to steal the
Stanislav Maslovski stanislav.maslov...@gmail.com (Sun Apr 3 12:37:26 2011):
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 10:11:03AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
But if network-manager would become default and ifupdown an optional
replacement, I would question Debian's capacity to make technically
excellent
Hello,
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011 13:40:43 +0200
Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net wrote:
That's not sufficient, because if a DHCP client is still running (e.g.
because the previous configuration used DHCP), one needs to kill it
before using a fixed IP address (in eth-home).
If you do `ifdown`,
On ti, 2011-04-05 at 08:52 +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
I'm re-running the scripts, which will probably take a few hours, and
will report results when they're done. If you notice any problems with
the scripts, please tell me ASAP.
The new scripts look also in maintainer scripts.
New results:
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Heiko Schlittermann h...@schlittermann.de
wrote:
Stanislav Maslovski stanislav.maslov...@gmail.com (Sun Apr 3 12:37:26
2011):
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 10:11:03AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
But if network-manager would become default and ifupdown an
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* 2011-04-06T16:45:03+02:00 * Heiko Schlittermann wrote:
Stanislav Maslovski stanislav.maslov...@gmail.com (Sun Apr 3
12:37:26 2011):
On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 10:11:03AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
But if network-manager would become default and ifupdown an optional
replacement, I would
Hi there!
On Wed, 06 Apr 2011 10:54:53 +0200, Roger Leigh wrote:
As of base-files 6.2 which went into unstable yesterday, we have a
new top-level directory, /run.
This directory will contain a tmpfs which will be present from early
boot, and which will replace /var/run. This will be done by
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 07:29:05AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mardi 05 avril 2011 à 02:08 +0400, Stanislav Maslovski a écrit :
Well, that is not the question of how many, that is the question of
can you do a given task or not with a given tool. NM is limited in all
possible ways I
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 07:29:05AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Then you can stack all soft of stuff on top of it, and get them to
work manually for your specific setup, and since it’s not event-based
you have to
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 12:28:39PM +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote:
We (lindi, liw and me) had just a short discussion in #-devel, that it
would be nice to have some sort of Vcs-Upstream-* in debian/control, to
be able to get to upstreams vcs history if it is not imported in
debian's vcs
Am Mittwoch, den 06.04.2011, 11:39 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek:
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 12:28:39PM +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote:
We (lindi, liw and me) had just a short discussion in #-devel, that it
would be nice to have some sort of Vcs-Upstream-* in debian/control, to
be able to get
Am Mittwoch 06 April 2011, 19:05:11 schrieb Stanislav Maslovski:
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 07:29:05AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Then you can stack all soft of stuff on top of it, and get them to
work manually for your specific setup, and since it’s not event-based
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 06:04:20PM +0200, Luk Claes wrote:
Hi
bash is not the default system shell anymore. It's now only the default
user shell. As such it is not required for a sysadmin to boot and
install software. Besides that some users would like to get rid of bash
in their
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 08:55:05PM +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote:
Am Mittwoch, den 06.04.2011, 11:39 -0700 schrieb Steve Langasek:
On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 12:28:39PM +0200, Benjamin Drung wrote:
There should be a Vcs-Debian-* too and used in most cases. A package
should use Vcs-Debian-* if
* Luk Claes [2011-04-06 07:20 +0200]:
On 04/06/2011 01:55 AM, Carsten Hey wrote:
Guaranteeing that /bin/sh exists and is functional during debootstrap,
even before any maintainer script has been run, could be archived if
every system shell would provide /bin/sh pointing to itself. To avoid
On 2011-04-06 18:26:45 +0300, Andrew O. Shadoura wrote:
If you do `ifdown`, either manually or by unplugging the cable, the
problem doesn't appear to exist. Calling ifupdown may be inserted into
the suspend/resume scripts.
I wonder why this isn't done by default.
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On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 10:51:08PM +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
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On Wed, Apr 06, 2011 at 07:29:05AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Then you can stack all soft of stuff on top of it, and get them to
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Evgeni Golov wrote:
We (lindi, liw and me) had just a short discussion in #-devel, that it
would be nice to have some sort of Vcs-Upstream-* in debian/control, to
be able to get to upstreams vcs history if it is not imported in
debian's vcs (which is often the case when using svn-bp or git-bf
Joey Hess jo...@debian.org writes:
Evgeni Golov wrote:
We (lindi, liw and me) had just a short discussion in #-devel, that it
would be nice to have some sort of Vcs-Upstream-* in debian/control, to
be able to get to upstreams vcs history if it is not imported in
debian's vcs (which is often
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