Re: [RFC] Changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}

2011-04-28 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Eugene V. Lyubimkin Hi, | On 2011-04-27 20:14, Adam Borowski wrote: | First, this statement is not true because other package managers | exist. | | You mean, one could manually hunt down and locate a .deb file, wget | then feed it to dpkg? | | Well, yes, one can. I did it once in

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Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 05:58:46PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Funny… reading your recent blogpost, (FWIW, the blog post Mehdi is referring to is, I guess, at [1]) you seem to not understand yet what you want to put into Rolling (and how). So, how can we comment on something that's not set or

Bug#624402: ITP: xen-qemu-dm-4.1 -- Xen Qemu Device Model virtual machine hardware emulator

2011-04-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org * Package name: xen-qemu-dm-4.1 Version : 4.1.0 Upstream Author : Fabrice Bellard, Xen team, and others xen-de...@lists.xensource.com * URL : http://www.xen.org/ * License : BSD, GPL, GPL

Re: [RFC] Changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}

2011-04-28 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Mi, 2011-04-27 at 19:34 +0300, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: Hi, On 2011-04-27 14:53, Julian Andres Klode wrote: I hereby request comments on changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}. When we upload a new version of APT, depending on a newer library version

Re: [RFC] Changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}

2011-04-28 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 09:18:05 +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: We do count situations like http://lists.debian.org/deity/2011/04/msg00154.html 676992.81078...@web26502.mail.ukl.yahoo.com That seems silly. They broke their system using dpkg -i, they can fix it with dpkg -i. Cheers,

Re: Bug#624402: ITP: xen-qemu-dm-4.1 -- Xen Qemu Device Model virtual machine hardware emulator

2011-04-28 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 15:20:00 +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: This is an updated package for version 4.1 of Xen. Updated packages don't need ITPs. Cheers, Julien -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: [RFC] Changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}

2011-04-28 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Do, 2011-04-28 at 09:42 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 09:18:05 +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: We do count situations like http://lists.debian.org/deity/2011/04/msg00154.html 676992.81078...@web26502.mail.ukl.yahoo.com That seems silly. They broke their

Bug#624412: ITP: libscythestat -- Scythe Statistical C++ Library

2011-04-28 Thread Steffen Moeller
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Steffen Moeller steffen_moel...@gmx.de * Package name: libscythestat Version : 1.0.2 * URL : http://scythe.wustl.edu/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : Scythe Statistical C++ Library From their

Re: Crypto consolidation in debian ?

2011-04-28 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 09:30:05AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Bastien ROUCARIES roucaries.bast...@gmail.com writes: Patches to WebAuth to support NSS are welcome, but I'm sure not going to bother.  Seems like a waste

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: We might disagree with the process Raphael is proposing, but my reading of [1] is that he is asking for comments on the *goals* that, in his opinion, rolling is supposed to fulfill. We can discuss whether those goals are worthwhile or not even if

Re: [RFC] Changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}

2011-04-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Julian Andres Klode wrote: On Do, 2011-04-28 at 09:42 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 09:18:05 +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: We do count situations like http://lists.debian.org/deity/2011/04/msg00154.html

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Simon McVittie
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 at 11:29:28 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - at freeze time, instead of freezing rolling, we make a snapshot of rolling (I call it testing) and this is where we do the work left to make it ready for release So your testing is essentially the pre-2000 frozen distribution

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - testing is really a temporary distribution that has a purpose only during freeze, if you use testing when there's no freeze you're just using stable because the testing symlink is still pointing to the distribution that has been released now

Re: [RFC] Changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}

2011-04-28 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 20:46, Peter Samuelson pe...@p12n.org wrote: Also, what if apt wants to call one of its auxilliary binaries during the install/upgrade?  I imagine it's not implemented that way _now_, but a Pre-Depends would make such a thing a lot safer if they want it. In theory this

Re: [RFC] Changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}

2011-04-28 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 04:55, Peter Samuelson pe...@p12n.org wrote: As discussed elsewhere in this thread, anyone relying on apt for upgrades would be using apt to upgrade apt, so an alternative to consider would be making apt fake the pre-depends internally. Is it feasible for apt to fake

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Simon McVittie wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 at 11:29:28 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - at freeze time, instead of freezing rolling, we make a snapshot of rolling (I call it testing) and this is where we do the work left to make it ready for release So your testing

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-04-28, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote: Might be, except that I don't want to keep the name testing due to its connotation that doesn't reflect well the goal of something that's constantly usable. Oh it is mostly constantly usable. Yes, sometimes an arch has to suffer but I

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 28/04/2011 11:48, Simon McVittie wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 at 11:29:28 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - at freeze time, instead of freezing rolling, we make a snapshot of rolling (I call it testing) and this is where we do the work left to make it ready for release So your testing is

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 28/04/2011 09:06, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 05:58:46PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Funny… reading your recent blogpost, (FWIW, the blog post Mehdi is referring to is, I guess, at [1]) you seem to not understand yet what you want to put into Rolling (and how). So,

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 28/04/2011 12:03, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Simon McVittie wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 at 11:29:28 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - at freeze time, instead of freezing rolling, we make a snapshot of rolling (I call it testing) and this is where we do the work left to

Bug#624430: ITP: glance -- glance

2011-04-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org * Package name: glance Version : 2011.2 Upstream Author : Openstack maintainers openst...@lists.launchpad.net * URL : http://www.openstack.org/ * License : Apache-2 Programming Lang:

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2011-04-28 Thread Aman Bhatia
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Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, thank you all for your feedback! On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: So your testing is essentially the pre-2000 frozen distribution [1], and your rolling is basically the current testing without the need to freeze? If that's the case, calling the distributions

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 28/04/11 at 13:10 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: On 28/04/2011 12:03, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Might be, except that I don't want to keep the name testing due to its connotation that doesn't reflect well the goal of something that's constantly usable. Except that it's lying to our users

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 28/04/2011 11:29, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: For example: What would be Rolling's content right after a release? (comparing to testing, which starts from the stable just released). I Rolling doesn't magically change after a release. It's still the

Bug#624435: ITP: raxml -- Randomized Axelerated Maximum Likelihood of phylogenetic trees

2011-04-28 Thread Andreas Tille
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Tille ti...@debian.org * Package name: raxml Version : 7.2.6 Upstream Author : Alexandros Stamatakis alexandros.stamata...@epfl.ch * URL : http://wwwkramer.in.tum.de/exelixis/software.html * License : GPL

Re: Crypto consolidation in debian ?

2011-04-28 Thread Simon Josefsson
Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 09:30:05AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Bastien ROUCARIES roucaries.bast...@gmail.com writes: Patches to WebAuth to support NSS are welcome, but I'm sure not going to bother.  Seems like a waste of time to me.  If I were going

Re: Crypto consolidation in debian ?

2011-04-28 Thread Simon Josefsson
m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) writes: On Apr 27, Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 07:20:55PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: The reason is that the kind of entities which require FIPS 140 probably also tend to require corporate vendor support, which we do not

Re: Crypto consolidation in debian ?

2011-04-28 Thread Roger Leigh
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 03:09:48PM +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net writes: libgcrypt has some horrendous bugs which upstream refuse to fix, for example the broken behaviour relating to setuid binaries discussed previously here, and the hard coded behaviour

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Abou Al Montacir
On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 13:01 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: On 28/04/2011 11:48, Simon McVittie wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 at 11:29:28 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - at freeze time, instead of freezing rolling, we make a snapshot of rolling (I call it testing) and this is where we do the

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: | before| during | release | freeze| freeze | day+1 | dev period | | ——— |sid |sid |sid

Bug#624444: O: libtext-levenshteinxs-perl -- An XS implementation of the Levenshtein edit distance

2011-04-28 Thread Axel Beckert
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Adrian von Bidder, the maintainer of the libtext-levenshteinxs-perl package unfortunately died on 17th of April 2011 [1]. [1] http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110423 Therefore, I orphan this package now. If you want to be the new maintainer, please take it.

Bug#624445: O: libxml-dtdparser-perl -- quick and dirty DTD parser

2011-04-28 Thread Axel Beckert
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Adrian von Bidder, the maintainer of the libxml-dtdparser-perl package unfortunately died on 17th of April 2011 [1]. [1] http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110423 Therefore, I orphan this package now. If you want to be the new maintainer, please take it. See

Bug#624446: O: libxml-writer-simple-perl -- simple API to create XML files

2011-04-28 Thread Axel Beckert
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Adrian von Bidder, the maintainer of the libxml-writer-simple-perl package unfortunately died on 17th of April 2011 [1]. [1] http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110423 Therefore, I orphan this package now. If you want to be the new maintainer, please take it.

Bug#624448: O: webkitkde -- KDE bindings for WebKit / WebKit KPart

2011-04-28 Thread Axel Beckert
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Adrian von Bidder, the maintainer of the webkitkde package unfortunately died on 17th of April 2011 [1]. [1] http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110423 Therefore, I orphan this package now. If you want to be the new maintainer, please take it. See

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 01:10:54PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: Except that it's lying to our users to name it rolling because packages from rolling won't be rc-bug free. For this reason, I think that testing is a very well choosen name, more honest about its state. If people think that testing

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 28/04/11 at 15:12 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: How's rolling different from testing? (except that testing freezes from time to time… yes, I know, that's the main point of the proposal, but still, I want to know if there are other changes). Note that being frozen about 25% of the time is a

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 28/04/11 at 15:04 +0200, Abou Al Montacir wrote: On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 13:01 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: On 28/04/2011 11:48, Simon McVittie wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 at 11:29:28 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: - at freeze time, instead of freezing rolling, we make a snapshot of

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 28/04/2011 15:52, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: | before| during | release | freeze| freeze | day+1 | dev period | | ——— |sid |sid |

Re: limits for package name and version (MBF alert: ... .deb filenames)

2011-04-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 03:11:14PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2011, Uoti Urpala wrote: ... It is still not a good reason to waste part of a draconian 30 chars of space with hash information. I agree. Anyway, I think 30 should be the absolute upper limit for

Bug#624456: ITP: cfflib -- Multi-modal connectome and metadata management and integration

2011-04-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stephan Gerhard deb...@unidesign.ch * Package name: cfflib Version : 2.0.2 Upstream Author : Stephan Gerhard deb...@unidesign.ch * URL : http://cmtk.org/cfflib * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description

Re: How to add quilt to an existing package?

2011-04-28 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 05:56:24PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 12:20:33AM +0900, Osamu Aoki a écrit : New URLs: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/index.en.html (this is the same) http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/modify.en.html#quiltrc Hello

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 28/04/11 at 16:52 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: On 28/04/2011 15:52, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: | before| during | release | freeze| freeze | day+1 | dev period | |

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: 1) At the beginning of the developement cycle, (with the new plan) you start from testing, and not the new stable. So, you don't start with a base that's rc-bug free, or at least, as polished as the new stable is. First, the beginning of the development

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 28/04/2011 17:30, Raphael Hertzog wrote: See http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/04/28/no-freeze-of-debian-development-what-does-it-entail/ for a more detailed answer and related suggestions to limit this problem. I'm still reading and thinking… so, don't have an answer yet. But, it you'd

Re: Crypto consolidation in debian ?

2011-04-28 Thread Clint Adams
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:37:37AM +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: So, could we document we different pitfall of crypto library on the debian wiki ? You could use http://curl.haxx.se/docs/ssl-compared.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_TLS_Implementations as starting points.

Re: [RFC] Changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}

2011-04-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 01:46:50PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Eugene V. Lyubimkin] Second, why the APT's ability to upgrade is broken under these conditions? Unless I'm missing something, the upgrade cannot be started in the middle of another upgrade [1]. [1] If we count the

Bug#624458: ITP: ruby-taglib2 -- ruby-taglib2 is a Ruby interface to TagLib, the audio meta-data library.

2011-04-28 Thread Vincent Carmona
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Vincent Carmona vinc4...@gmail.com * Package name: ruby-taglib2 Version : 0.1.3 Upstream Author : Vincent Carmona vinc4...@gmail.com * URL : http://zik.rubyforge.org/ruby-taglib2/ * License : GPL (v2+) Programming

Re: [RFC] Changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}

2011-04-28 Thread Michael Vogt
On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 02:53:26PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: Hi, I hereby request comments on changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}. The reason is simple: When we upload a new version of APT, depending on a newer library version (due to new symbols,

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Joey Hess
Mehdi Dogguy wrote: There are other issues I want to mention here (you may judge them as minor, but let's see): 1) At the beginning of the developement cycle, (with the new plan) you start from testing, and not the new stable. So, you don't start with a base that's rc-bug free, or at least,

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 28/04/2011 17:25, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 28/04/11 at 16:52 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: 1) At the beginning of the developement cycle, (with the new plan) you start from testing, and not the new stable. So, you don't start with a base that's rc-bug free, or at least, as polished as the new

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Joey Hess
Raphael Hertzog wrote: There are other possible changes but I want to discuss them separately because even without those changes, the testing without freeze is a worthwhile goal in itself. Still, since you seem to insist, here are ideas I'd like to investigate: - reduce the set of

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 28/04/2011 17:30, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: 1) At the beginning of the developement cycle, (with the new plan) you start from testing, and not the new stable. So, you don't start with a base that's rc-bug free, or at least, as polished as the new stable

Re: [RFC] Changing APT to pre-depend on ${shlibs:Depends}

2011-04-28 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Do, 2011-04-28 at 08:41 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 01:46:50PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: [Eugene V. Lyubimkin] Second, why the APT's ability to upgrade is broken under these conditions? Unless I'm missing something, the upgrade cannot be started in the

Re: limits for package name and version (MBF alert: ... .deb filenames)

2011-04-28 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Osamu Aoki dijo [Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:55:48PM +0900]: (...) 1.2.10~YYMMDD for prerelease of version 1.2.10 1.2.10~rcYMMDD for prerelease of version 1.2.10 (alternative format) this last 2 are mostly used in unstable/testing only. So length is less of problem. Remember that

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Philipp Kern
Joey, nice to see you agreeing. :) On 2011-04-28, Joey Hess jo...@debian.org wrote: To most users of testing, a 5 month period when it doesn't update as much, but is also more constantly usable is mostly a draw; that period is when testing has the most new users. That's also my observation.

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 28/04/11 at 18:04 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: On 28/04/2011 17:25, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 28/04/11 at 16:52 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: 1) At the beginning of the developement cycle, (with the new plan) you start from testing, and not the new stable. So, you don't start with a base

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 28/04/11 at 12:05 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: And at the same time, having a non-frozen rolling release available during freeze time could easily distract people from working on testing/frozen at all, because a shiny rolling release that they and some users can use is still available. I am

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 28/04/11 at 18:54 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: You want a constantly usable testing, but are you working these days on fixing RC bugs affecting testing? Don't get me wrong. I'm not finger-printing. I didn't find time to do that myself. But, if we all try to do that, things will be much more

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net [110428 20:21]: On 28/04/11 at 12:05 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: And at the same time, having a non-frozen rolling release available during freeze time could easily distract people from working on testing/frozen at all, because a shiny rolling release

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Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread sean finney
Hi guys, On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 08:23:33PM +, Philipp Kern wrote: * RM's can still choose to migrate packages from (not frozen) testing as long as it's practical to do so. * When deps/transitions/etc prevent testing migration, release N proposed updates is used for

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Didier Raboud
Philipp Kern wrote: Improvement to update testing more quickly by easing the pain of transitions, like rebuilding everything in a self-contained way to avoid entanglements, would be well appreciated. As it's not the first time I see this mentionned (but still fail to understand it fully),

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 28/04/11 at 20:45 +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net [110428 20:21]: On 28/04/11 at 12:05 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: And at the same time, having a non-frozen rolling release available during freeze time could easily distract people from working on

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, sean finney wrote: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 02:55:31PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: Good. I just want to point out that frozen built on top on rolling (which is what we're proposing here) is different from frozen built on top of unstable (which is what we had before the

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, Joey Hess wrote: Another problem is that testing can be frozen in stages, which allows development from unstable on eg, leaf package to continue on filter into testing until relatively close to the release. Rolling could disrupt that, since uploads to unstable targeted at

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Thu, April 28, 2011 19:03, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 28/04/11 at 12:05 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: And at the same time, having a non-frozen rolling release available during freeze time could easily distract people from working on testing/frozen at all, because a shiny rolling release that they

Bug#624490: ITP: tnat64 -- IPv4 to NAT64 redirector

2011-04-28 Thread Andrew O. Shadoura
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew O. Shadoura bugzi...@tut.by * Package name: tnat64 Version : 0.01 Upstream Author : Andrew O. Shadoura bugzi...@tut.by * URL : https://bitbucket.org/andrew_shadoura/tnat64/ * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: C

Re: limits for package name and version (MBF alert: ... .deb filenames)

2011-04-28 Thread Uoti Urpala
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh hmh at debian.org writes: I do think you misunderstood my point in the hash issue. My point is not that a full hash will not collide. The point is that the full hash as seen in a tree received from the upstream DVCS should not see colisions, because the collision

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 04/28/2011 07:15 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Could we try to stay on focus and constructive, and avoid bringing poneys in the discussion? Yes. I'm sorry! I always write a first stupid version and then change it to something reasonable (or drop it), but I forgot to change that sentence. It

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-04-28, Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote: But I don't plan to work on any of those if the project does not agree to promote testing to something that can be advertised as usable by end-users and as something that we strive to support on a best-effort basis. The usual troll of

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:55:01 +, Philipp Kern wrote: At least if they're wired up to at least get announcements if something's screwing up systems gravely. That channel seems to be missing, though. apt-listbugs? Not very widely known, IME ... Cheers, gregor -- .''`. Homepage:

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:54:32 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: You want a constantly usable testing, but are you working these days on fixing RC bugs affecting testing? Don't get me wrong. I'm not finger-printing. I didn't find time to do that myself. But, if we all try to do that, things will be

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:16:27 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Thu, 28 Apr 2011, sean finney wrote: If the latter case, I think the best thing to do would be to formalize the proposal (DEP maybe?), set up the test archives/autobuilds, and get right to it. I'd be glad to help you drive a

Re: [Pkg-xen-devel] xen-qemu-dm does not build with backported xen-4.1

2011-04-28 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 04/29/2011 01:02 AM, Niccolò Belli wrote: Il 28/04/2011 16:55, Thomas Goirand ha scritto: Bastian, I just saw you did an upload, does this include the above fix (eg, inclusion of xentoollog.h)? Should I write a bug report? I fear you wasted your time trying to fix qemu-dm :| Not

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-04-28 Thread Ben Finney
Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net writes: On 28/04/11 at 18:04 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: I agree that it's a problem. However: - we are likely to get more rolling+unstable users than the current testing+sid users, so rolling release will get more testing until the freeze.

Re: Debian Project mourns the loss of ...

2011-04-28 Thread jidanni
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Accepted fluxbox 1.3.1~dfsg1-2 (source amd64)

2011-04-28 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:17:29 -0400 Source: fluxbox Binary: fluxbox Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.3.1~dfsg1-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Dmitry E. Oboukhov un...@debian.org Changed-By: Paul Tagliamonte

Accepted gtkmm2.4 1:2.24.0-1 (source all mipsel)

2011-04-28 Thread Deng Xiyue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:53:14 +0800 Source: gtkmm2.4 Binary: libgtkmm-2.4-dev libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a libgtkmm-2.4-dbg libgtkmm-2.4-doc Architecture: source all mipsel Version: 1:2.24.0-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Deng

Accepted libdata-alias-perl 1.14-1 (source amd64)

2011-04-28 Thread Jotam Jr. Trejo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 23:13:52 -0600 Source: libdata-alias-perl Binary: libdata-alias-perl Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.14-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Perl Group

Accepted biomaj 1.1.0-2 (source all)

2011-04-28 Thread Olivier Sallou
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 16:27:11 +0200 Source: biomaj Binary: biomaj Architecture: source all Version: 1.1.0-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Med Packaging Team debian-med-packag...@lists.alioth.debian.org

Accepted boinc 6.12.26+dfsg-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-28 Thread Steffen Moeller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 22:33:56 +0200 Source: boinc Binary: boinc boinc-client boinc-manager boinc-dev boinc-server-maker boinc-dbg Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 6.12.26+dfsg-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer:

Accepted golang 2011.04.13-2~exp6 (source all amd64)

2011-04-28 Thread Ondřej Surý
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:49:16 +0200 Source: golang Binary: golang-go golang-src golang-doc golang-tools golang-mode Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 2011.04.13-2~exp6 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Ondřej Surý

Accepted gst-plugins-bad0.10 0.10.21.3-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-28 Thread Sebastian Dröge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:20:34 +0200 Source: gst-plugins-bad0.10 Binary: gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-doc gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-sdl gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-dbg Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 0.10.21.3-1

Accepted mysqltcl 3.05-5 (source i386)

2011-04-28 Thread Sven Hoexter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 09:52:33 +0200 Source: mysqltcl Binary: mysqltcl Architecture: source i386 Version: 3.05-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Sven Hoexter hoex...@debian.org Changed-By: Sven Hoexter hoex...@debian.org

Accepted picolisp 3.0.6.5-2 (source amd64)

2011-04-28 Thread Kan-Ru Chen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:09:35 +0800 Source: picolisp Binary: picolisp Architecture: source amd64 Version: 3.0.6.5-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Kan-Ru Chen kos...@debian.org Changed-By: Kan-Ru Chen kos...@debian.org

Accepted polkit-qt-1 0.99.0-2 (source amd64)

2011-04-28 Thread Modestas Vainius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:53:35 +0300 Source: polkit-qt-1 Binary: libpolkit-qt-1-dev libpolkit-qt-1-1 Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.99.0-2 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Qt/KDE Maintainers

Accepted resolvconf 1.50 (source all)

2011-04-28 Thread Thomas Hood
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:00:00 +0200 Source: resolvconf Binary: resolvconf Architecture: source all Version: 1.50 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: resolvconf maintainers resolvconf-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org

Accepted swami 2.0.0+svn384-2 (source kfreebsd-i386 all)

2011-04-28 Thread Alessio Treglia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:33:25 +0200 Source: swami Binary: swami libswami0 libswami-dev swami-dbg Architecture: source kfreebsd-i386 all Version: 2.0.0+svn384-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers

Accepted osc 0.131-1 (source all)

2011-04-28 Thread Michal Čihař
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:12:30 +0200 Source: osc Binary: osc Architecture: source all Version: 0.131-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Michal Čihař ni...@debian.org Changed-By: Michal Čihař ni...@debian.org Description:

Accepted cmip5-cmor-tables 1.3.9-1 (source all)

2011-04-28 Thread Alastair McKinstry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:03:46 +0100 Source: cmip5-cmor-tables Binary: cmip5-cmor-tables Architecture: source all Version: 1.3.9-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Alastair McKinstry mckins...@debian.org Changed-By:

Accepted mpfr4 3.0.1-1 (source all amd64)

2011-04-28 Thread Laurent Fousse
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 11:32:37 +0200 Source: mpfr4 Binary: libmpfr4 libmpfr4-dbg libmpfr-dev libmpfr-doc lib32mpfr4 lib32mpfr-dev Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 3.0.1-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Laurent

Accepted cmor 2.5.9-1 (source i386)

2011-04-28 Thread Alastair McKinstry
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:19:48 +0100 Source: cmor Binary: libcmor2 libcmor-dev python-cmor Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.5.9-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Alastair McKinstry mckins...@debian.org Changed-By:

Accepted lighttpd 1.4.28-5 (source all amd64)

2011-04-28 Thread eloy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:05:06 +0200 Source: lighttpd Binary: lighttpd lighttpd-doc lighttpd-mod-mysql-vhost lighttpd-mod-trigger-b4-dl lighttpd-mod-cml lighttpd-mod-magnet lighttpd-mod-webdav Architecture: source amd64 all Version:

Accepted blepvco 0.1.0-3 (source amd64)

2011-04-28 Thread Alessio Treglia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:08:27 +0200 Source: blepvco Binary: blepvco Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.1.0-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers

Accepted exif 0.6.20-1 (source amd64)

2011-04-28 Thread Emmanuel Bouthenot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:49:37 + Source: exif Binary: exif Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.6.20-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian PhotoTools Maintainers pkg-phototools-de...@lists.alioth.debian.org

Accepted keysafe 0.4.0.2-3 (source amd64)

2011-04-28 Thread Alessio Treglia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2011 10:26:28 +0200 Source: keysafe Binary: keysafe Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.4.0.2-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian QA Group packa...@qa.debian.org Changed-By: Alessio Treglia

Accepted dcap 2.47.5-2 (source amd64)

2011-04-28 Thread Mattias Ellert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 08:49:54 +0200 Source: dcap Binary: dcap libdcap1 dcap-dev dcap-tunnel-gsi dcap-tunnel-krb dcap-tunnel-ssl dcap-tunnel-telnet Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.47.5-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low

Accepted lftp 4.2.2-1 (source amd64)

2011-04-28 Thread Noèl Köthe
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 13:26:35 +0200 Source: lftp Binary: lftp Architecture: source amd64 Version: 4.2.2-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Noèl Köthe n...@debian.org Changed-By: Noèl Köthe n...@debian.org Description:

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