Re: Suggestions about i386 support

2024-06-14 Thread Ben Hutchings
.com/en/resources/product-security/support-policy.html>.) I also don't think these vulnerabilities are likely to be a practical concern for people using 32-bit-only CPUs. But we definitely should discourage users from using i386 kernel packages on 64-bit-capable hardware, if we don'

Re: Complex Cameras Micro-conference in LPC and Debian

2024-06-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
ou think will be needed from us? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings friends: People who know you well, but like you anyway. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: iproute2: removing /sbin/ip link breaks other packages and possibly user scripts

2024-08-21 Thread Ben Hutchings
it heads-up. I've made a team upload of iproute2 (version 6.10.0-2) with this change reverted. Luca, please leave the symlink in place at least as long as there are packages that rely on it. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings All the simple programs have been written, and all the good names taken signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Debian installation problem on Macbook pro from 2019

2024-08-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
at right? This would mean that a driver needed for the internal keyboard was missing. The keyboard-configuration package wouldn't help with this. We'll need to update the list of drivers included in the installer. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Man invented language to sa

Bug#345275: ITP: maypole -- Perl framework for MVC-oriented web applications

2005-12-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: maypole Version : 2.10 Upstream Author : Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and others * URL : http://maypole.cpan.org/ * License : dual GPL/Artistic

Bug#345277: ITP: memories -- a web-based photo sharing application

2005-12-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: memories Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://maypole.perl.org/?Applications * License : to be established

Bug#345397: ITP: libtest-mockmodule-perl -- Test::MockModule - Override subroutines in a module for unit testing

2005-12-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libtest-mockmodule-perl Version : 0.05 Upstream Author : Simon Flack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~simonflk/Test-MockModule/ * License

Bug#345398: ITP: maypole-plugin-upload -- Maypole::Plugin::Upload - Handle file uploads in Maypole

2005-12-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: maypole-plugin-upload Version : 0.02 Upstream Author : Marcus Ramberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~mramberg/Maypole-Plugin-Upload/ * License

Bug#345399: ITP: maypole-authentication-usersessioncookie -- Maypole::Authentication::UserSessionCookie - Track sessions and, optionally, users

2005-12-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: maypole-authentication-usersessioncookie Version : 1.4 Upstream Author : Simon Cozens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~simon/Maypole-Au

Bug#345403: ITP: libhtml-tagcloud-perl -- HTML::TagCloud - Generate An HTML Tag Cloud

2005-12-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libhtml-tagcloud-perl Version : 0.32 Upstream Author : Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~lbrocard/HTML-TagCloud/ * License

Bug#345452: ITP: libclass-dbi-plugin-abstractcount-perl -- Class::DBI::Plugin::AbstractCount - get COUNT(*) results with abstract SQL

2005-12-31 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libclass-dbi-plugin-abstractcount-perl Version : 0.06 Upstream Author : Jean-Christophe Zeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> et al. * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~jczeus/Clas

Bug#345453: ITP: libclass-dbi-plugin-pager-perl -- Class::DBI::Plugin::Pager - paged queries for CDBI

2005-12-31 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libclass-dbi-plugin-pager-perl Version : 0.561 Upstream Author : David Baird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~davebaird/Class-DBI-Plugin-Page

Bug#347309: ITP: libtime-piece-mysql-perl -- Time::Piece::MySQL - Adds MySQL-specific methods to Time::Piece

2006-01-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libtime-piece-mysql-perl Version : 0.05 Upstream Author : Marty Pauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~kasei/Time-Piece-MySQL/ * License

Re: Bug#356241: FTBFS with G++ 4.1: no matching function for call to 'simplify_indexed(...

2006-03-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
be more productive to calm down a bit and let people play > with that compiler a bit before making it the default. That's what we're doing. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings We get into the habit of living before acquiring the habit of thinking.

Bug#382117: ITP: videolink -- DVD authoring program using HTML for menus

2006-08-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: videolink Version : 0.8 Upstream Author : Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://womble.decadent.org.uk/software/webdvd/ * License : GPL wi

Bug#362040: ITP: rt2x00 -- RT2400/2500/2570 wireless network drivers

2006-04-12 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: rt2x00 Version : 2.0.0-b3 (would be 1.99+2.0.0b3 in Debian) Upstream Author : Mark Wallis et al * URL : http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/ * License : GPL Descr

Re: Bug#362040: ITP: rt2x00 -- RT2400/2500/2570 wireless network drivers

2006-04-14 Thread Ben Hutchings
Adrian von Bidder wrote: > On Wednesday 12 April 2006 00:23, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > * Package name: rt2x00 > > > This package would contain version 2 of the rt2x00 drivers that are > > currently distributed as separate rt2400 and rt2500 packages (and a > > prop

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
D presented for this person was issued based on an existing passport and not only his claimed name. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings I'm always amazed by the number of people who take up solipsism because they heard someone else explain it. - E*Borg on alt.fan.pratchett signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Standardisation of the name of the patching targets included in debian/rules.

2008-02-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
ainer to implement, while you seem to dig into details on how the > proposed target names should be internally implemented ... "debian/rules clean" should remove patches so that dpkg-buildpackage doesn't include the patches in the diff.gz twice. (It might also have to apply a patc

Re: Bug#467097: ITP: eficas -- ASter Command FIle Editor

2008-02-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
the upstream web site <http://www.code-aster.org/>. (The initials used to stand for Electricité de France, but the company has diversified and no longer expands the initials.) Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Q. Which is the greater problem in the world today, ignorance or apathy? A. I don

Bug#469369: ITP: sfc -- driver for Solarflare Solarstorm SFC4000 network controller

2008-03-04 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: sfc Version : ? Upstream Author : Solarflare Communications * URL : http://www.solarflare.com * License :

Re: dpkg with triggers support (again)

2008-03-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
er than data pointers so that the dlsym() function can work. Itanium natively requires functions to be identified by a 64-bit instruction pointer plus a 64-bit global data pointer. The ABI defines function pointers to point to these 128-bit data structures. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Life is like a s

Re: Can our institute become Debian Certified

2008-03-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
m-templates> as the starting point for a test of packaging. However, since these are public knowledge you would need to take care to detect candidates who are cribbing and not finding their own answers. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Time is nature's way of making sure that everything doesn't

Re: RFC: preventing accidental deletion of system directories

2008-03-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
uot;better": add them to /etc/ld.so.preload and they apply system-wide. I would say filesystem snapshots are the neatest way to allow undoing deletion, though. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Teamwork is essential - it allows you to blame someone else. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: missing package conflicts

2008-04-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
y the preinst script. The only sure way to check for them is to have dpkg run the script, which the final figure of 27 conflicts is based on. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Life would be so much easier if we could look at the source code. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Reviewing http://wiki.debian.org/ArchitectureSpecificsMemo

2008-04-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
cision. > > Hopefully, we will never end up with an architecture where sizeof(long) > != sizeof(void *) Linux has a convention predating intptr_t of using long for that purpose, so Linux won't allow such an ABI. > or sizeof(int) != 4. GNU requires that, unless I'm much mistaken. Be

Re: Reviewing http://wiki.debian.org/ArchitectureSpecificsMemo

2008-04-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
1 > > Those three equalities are not part of any ABI. They are written into > the C standard, in the definition of the sizeof() operator. They will > never be false. I just removed them for this reason. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Once a job is fouled up, anything done to improve it m

Re: Reviewing http://wiki.debian.org/ArchitectureSpecificsMemo

2008-04-26 Thread Ben Hutchings
tecture where CHAR_BITS != 8, but I doubt it; too much software depends on having exactly-8-bit types. Until then, why bother? (Similarly there's little point in including sizeof(short) and sizeof(int); they don't vary between our current architectures and are very unlikely to do so in f

Re: problems for making kernel module

2008-05-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
n-exported: Why: tasklist_lock protects the kernel internal task list. Modules have no business looking at it, and all instances in drivers have been due to use of too-lowlevel APIs. Having this symbol exported prevents moving to more scalable locking schemes for the task list

Re: Bug#479440: ITP: funpidgin -- A pidgin fork

2008-05-04 Thread Ben Hutchings
to set the size of the buddy icons displayed in the chat window. > * An option to let the window manager place new windows. > * Two different ways of seeing that your buddies are typing. > * An optional send button for Tablet PC users. Maybe you could wait to see whether this fork lasts, and

Bug#487317: perl-modules: File::Path::rmtree sets symlink target permissions to 0777

2008-06-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: debsums Version: 5.10.0-10 Severity: critical Tags: security Justification: root security hole -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 2008-06-20 at 23:26 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (20/06/2008): > > $ sudo aptitude reinstall ncurses-base

Re: terminfo files getting installed executable, but how? (was: Failing daily D-I builds?)

2008-06-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
uot;) = 0 It looks like it's unpacking the archive under /tmp, generating checksums, then deleting the files as it goes. Before unlinking it uses chmod, presumably to ensure the unlink will succeed. But chmod follows sym-links, and these sym-links are absolute so it chmods

Re: Bug#487317: perl-modules: File::Path::rmtree sets symlink target permissions to 0777

2008-06-21 Thread Ben Hutchings
I cloned bug #487317 as #487319; the former is assigned to debsums and the latter to perl-modules. On Sat, 2008-06-21 at 00:43 -0500, Drake Wilson wrote: > Quoth Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 2008-06-20 23:36:51 +0100: > > debsums is doing it: > [strace elided] >

Re: ITP: debian-backports-keyring -- GnuPG archive key of the backports.org repository

2008-06-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
, and the preferred form for doing that would presumably be the one that's published. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
hould we > only relay on #debian-devel irc channel topic to know this? [...] This is what debian-infrastructure-announce is for (though debian-devel-announce might be appropriate in some cases). But there was no announcement in this case. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Unix is many things to many peop

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 21:24 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 20:16:06 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 20:25 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a sche

Re: Virtual package dyndns-client

2009-08-11 Thread Ben Hutchings
omment on this? If the virtual package name is to be meaningful, there must be some definition of what capabilities a dyndns-client provides to depending packages, e.g. a specific command and options. Does that exist? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings It is easier to change the specification to fit the progra

Re: Relation between Suggests and Enhances

2009-08-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
the application should not normally suggest all its plugins - some of them may be of very limited interest, and it should not be necessary to change the application package whenever a new plugin is packaged. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings

Re: looking for kernel-maintainer

2009-09-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
INTAINERS file in the kernel source tree. It is also packaged in the linux-doc-$version packages. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Who are all these weirdos? - David Bowie, about L-Space IRC channel #afp signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Copyright infringement on www.rossbeazley.co.uk

2009-09-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
e.decadent.org.uk/blog - latest entry copied as http://www.rossbeazley.co.uk/ben-hutchings-debian-kernel-team-at-linux-plumbers-conference/open-source/). Copyright in each of these blogs remains with their authors. While Planet Debian has permission to copy each of them, the site owner (presumably R

Re: Copyright infringement on www.rossbeazley.co.uk

2009-09-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 04:14 -0700, Ben Hutchings wrote: > The "blog" at <http://www.rossbeazley.co.uk>, which is hosted in your IP > space, is a copy of Planet Debian <http://planet.debian.org>, apparently > intended to gain keyword advertising revenue. > > Pl

Re: Copyright infringement on www.rossbeazley.co.uk — Overreacting?

2009-09-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 07:34 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Ben Hutchings dijo [Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 04:14:45AM -0700]: > > The "blog" at <http://www.rossbeazley.co.uk>, which is hosted in your IP > > space, is a copy of Planet Debian <http://planet.debian.org>, ap

Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9260-4i and Lenny

2009-09-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
t be backported into lenny? Maybe, if you file a wishlist bug against linux-2.6. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Who are all these weirdos? - David Bowie, about L-Space IRC channel #afp signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: LSI MegaRAID SAS 9260-4i and Lenny

2009-09-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2009-09-30 at 12:44 +0200, Niccolò Belli wrote: > Il 30 settembre 2009 03.32, Ben Hutchings ha scritto: > > It's in the Linux kernel already, but support for this particular model > > appears to have been added after Linux 2.6.26. > > Uhm... are you sure? Can y

Re: btrfs

2009-10-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
rmware-linux-nonfree doesn't seem to > be available so I can't use my e100 Ethernet ports (which are essential for > the test machine in question). [...] That package is currently called firmware-linux but will be renamed shortly because we now also package the DFSG-free firmwar

Re: btrfs

2009-10-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 11:51 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > That package is currently called firmware-linux but will be renamed > > shortly because we now also package the DFSG-free firmware from the > > Linux tree as firmware-l

Re: Can not install both "brasero" and "lvm2"

2009-10-17 Thread Ben Hutchings
nstalled, 2 to remove and 0 not upgraded. > Need to get 2,199kB of archives. > After this operation, 4,820kB of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue [Y/n]? > > How to solve it? [...] dmsetup conflicts with devicekit-disks due to #545032 (closed, but repor

Re: Bits from the kernel team

2009-10-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
ion, but I'm feeding those patches upstream as well), and we do not carry out significant development of our own (at least, not in our Debian roles). Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Make three consecutive correct guesses and you will be considered an expert. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-

Re: usplash-theme-debian uploaded to sid

2009-10-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
nd/or 1400x1050, not 1440x1050. Add 800x480 and 1024x600 for the EeePC and similar netbooks. There's a diagram of some of the common screen sizes at: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e5/Vector_Video_Standards2.svg Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The obvious mathematical breakthrough [to

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-10-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
el team then, because we do this all the time. Or you could think through your suggestions. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings It is easier to write an incorrect program than to understand a correct one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of &qu

Re: Build logs from local builds

2009-10-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
at least one of the > architectures in Debian. :) It *usually* does. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings I'm always amazed by the number of people who take up solipsism because they heard someone else explain it. - E*Borg on alt.fan.pratchett signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Huge lag between submitting a bug and replies

2009-10-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
can handle in a day is probably around 230K 22:28 < dondelelcaro> (there's about 1.5 hours left, and we're already at 197K) Ben. -- Ben Hutchings I'm always amazed by the number of people who take up solipsism because they heard someone else explain it. - E*Borg on alt.fan.pratchett signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Switch on compiler hardening defaults

2009-11-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
t; each operation instead of checking errno later). [...] In general you cannot rely on checking errno because it is not defined whether a successful operation clears it. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.

Re: Cross compiler ITP (armel)

2009-11-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
ns actually used as additional source dependencies, and ensuring that these source dependencies are satisfied within each release, you should not use this approach. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance.

Re: Cross compiler ITP (armel)

2009-11-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 02:34 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 02.11.2009 00:00, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 23:14 +0100, Hector Oron wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >>I would like to do a little explanation on the ITP I have filled for > &g

Re: Cross compiler ITP (armel)

2009-11-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2009-11-03 at 07:31 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Ben Hutchings: > > > You can disagree all you like, but I believe that the FTP team will > > currently reject any new packages that use source code from their build- > > dependencies. > > Surely this is no

Re: GDM, getty and VTs

2009-11-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
; on the net. Really bad > > especial for those who need them most - newbees. > > ALT-CTRL-F7 is somewhat of a standard. > > > It's already broken on fedora, at least. So if it's a standard, it's a > dying one. If Fedora jumps off a cliff (I wouldn't pu

Re: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
. libata presents ATA/ATAPI drives as SCSI devices, so hard drive partitions will change from /dev/hdX to /dev/sdX. In preparation for this partition, /etc/fstab and the kernel parameters in boot-loader configs should be changed to specify partitions by UUID or label name so that they work with both

Re: Linux image packages going to depend on python

2009-11-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
After all, it could make more sense to change > > from hd* to UUIDs or labels instead of from hd* to sd*, to compensate > > for the lack of stable naming of sd* device nodes. > > uuid, label, et.al do not work for VFAT or NTFS, do they? Of course they do. Ben. -- Ben Hutchin

Re: Bug#559134: ITP: shc -- a generic shell script compiler

2009-12-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
ot to be kidding. Quite apart from the irony of a GPL'd obfuscator, this won't really protect sensitive information, and will only give its immediate users a false sense of security (just as DRM does to publishers). Ben. -- Ben Hutchings It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Albert Einstein signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Bug#559774: ITP: modem-cmd -- send arbitrary AT commands to your modem

2009-12-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
/dev/ttyUSB0 ATDT123456 Which I can trivially can do with stty and echo already, no? Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Never put off till tomorrow what you can avoid all together. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Bug#560088: ITP: python-portio -- low level port I/O for Linux

2009-12-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
han it would have been in C. > Is there something that you want to package that depends on this? I do hope not; this should never be used in production. But it may yet be useful in hardware development. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Logic doesn't apply to the real world. - Marvin Minsky signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: SpamAssassin is run on Alioth, but its results are ignored

2009-12-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
attitude isn't well suited for an Debian developer. Try > be more helpful instead of sounding like a dick. If this was the first bug report from jidanni, sure, but jidanni is a regular bug reporter and really ought to have learned better by now. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Hoare's Law of Large Problems: Inside every large problem is a small problem struggling to get out. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
f themselves a > quite substantial and needless extra bloat. They are considerably larger > than gdb is itself, and needing to put extra flash on a board, just to > install python, which the board itself will never use, hits a much harder > limit than an extra 4MB package in the archive wou

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 08:25 +1030, Ron wrote: > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 08:12:44PM +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > Why would you install gdb on a (non-development) system, rather than a > > gdb stub? > > Maybe I'm missing something cool and obvious here, but in the part

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
#x27;d be going > out on a limb to suggest this will be of benefit to far more people than > the number who'll need python scripts to use gdb. Am I? > > Really, what am I missing here? What you're missing is that gdb's scripting facilities were pathetic, and Python integr

Re: Bits from the kernel team

2009-12-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
to build a kernel. > > > > We will be rationalising this to two methods, an upstream merged "make > > deb-pkg" target and the linux-2.6 Debian source. Done. > > We will also be rationalising the kernel postinst and co-ordinating > > our efforts with

Re: Bits from the kernel team

2009-12-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 09:24 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > >> > OSS > >> > --- > >> > > >> > This has been a deprecated kernel interface for some time and will be > >> > di

Re: Bits from the kernel team

2009-12-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2009-12-22 at 19:39 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 04:50:22PM +0000, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 17:22 +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Now that we have a 2.6.32 kernel in unstable, can you up

Re: Bits from the kernel team

2009-12-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 01:51 +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > Ben Hutchings wrote: > > Currently you can install kernel images from unstable or backports > > without any extra dependencies. I'm not aware of any significant > > breakage though some packages may rely on deprecate

Re: Bits from the kernel team

2009-12-22 Thread Ben Hutchings
grades if the ABI does change? > > Would someone care to explain to the rest of the project? Once we are finished with major changes to 2.6.32 (such as the libata transition) the ABI version will change from 'trunk' to '1' and we will then try to avoid unnecessary ABI cha

Re: Bug#411617: ITP: ivtv-firmware -- firmware for the ivtv kernel driver

2007-02-20 Thread Ben Hutchings
Why do companies care about "unauthorised" copying of firmware that's essential to and only useful for their hardware? I've never understood this. Perhaps it's something the lawyers put in by default.) Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The obvious mathematical breakthrough [to bre

Re: Bug#411617: ITP: ivtv-firmware -- firmware for the ivtv kernel driver

2007-02-21 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 01:38 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 02/21/07 00:59, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 18:51 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 06:06:45PM -0500, Edward

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/sbin/sshd: wrong DISPLAY is due to hijacking someone other's one...]

2007-03-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
#x27;t need to pander to (and has probably been fixed in the mean time). Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Gates has joked that everything goes on and off unexepectedly in the house, which is run by a high-end PC network built on Windows NT. - Seattle Times signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/sbin/sshd: wrong DISPLAY is due to hijacking someone other's one...]

2007-03-05 Thread Ben Hutchings
for (n = 0; n < num_socks; n++) { close(socks[n]); -- END -- I expect this would be acceptable to upstream too. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings The most exhausting thing in life is being insincere. - Anne Morrow Lindberg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: sarge and DST

2007-03-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
13 22:49:40 EDT 2007 Looks OK to me. (If you say +N days that ends up at the same time of day local time.) Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Any smoothly functioning technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: QClipboard: timed out while sending data

2007-03-12 Thread Ben Hutchings
lines of 80 characters) within the same textarea in Iceweasel in 1 second on a similar system. Copying the same from emacs to Iceweasel takes about 1.5 seconds. So it sounds as if kedit could be at fault. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Who are all these weirdos? - David Bowie, about L-Space IRC channe

Re: Problems packaging a kernel using cdbs

2007-03-19 Thread Ben Hutchings
inux RAM disk, it's a lot like the RAM disk provided by the AmigaOS and maybe some other operating systems. I can see that it would be more correct and perhaps less confusing for the manual page to say "tmpfs" though. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Once a job is fouled up, anything done to improve it makes it worse. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: pthread has error on Debian Etch

2007-03-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
be an issue for debian-devel. This mailing list is about development of Debian, not programming using a Debian system. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings compatible: Gracefully accepts erroneous data from any source signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Ethernet interface numbering in etch

2007-03-27 Thread Ben Hutchings
mum. Many have three or more now. > And even consumer mainboards. And almost every laptop comes with wired and wireless interfaces. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Editing code like this is akin to sticking plasters on the bleeding stump of a severed limb. - me, 29 June 1999 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Modifying /etc/apt/sources.list in postinst ; determining the suite in postinst

2007-04-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
f (defined($max_pri_suite)) { print "Default suite is $max_pri_suite\n"; } else { print "No sources for Debian main\n"; } ### END ### Ben. -- Ben Hutchings I'm not a reverse psychological virus. Please don't copy me into your sig. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Not-so-mass bug filing for the patented IDEA algorithm

2007-04-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
an implementation, so only distributing binaries that include the claimed invention could infringe. I'm not sure whether this has been legally tested. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings If God had intended Man to program, we'd have been born with serial I/O ports. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Building i386 binaries on ia64.

2007-04-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 20:29 +0100, Rob Andrews wrote: > Hi all, > > I notice ia64 has ia32-libs and ia32-libs-dev, but I can't seem to find a > compiler to build i386 binaries. Use the -m32 option to gcc. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Never put off till tomorrow what you can a

Re: Building i386 binaries on ia64.

2007-04-14 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2007-04-14 at 02:32 +0100, Rob Andrews wrote: > On 14-Apr-2007 00:43.04 (BST), Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > I notice ia64 has ia32-libs and ia32-libs-dev, but I can't seem to find a > > > compiler to build i386 binaries. > > Use the -m32 option to gcc.

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
d behaviour" bugs that will only show up in optimised builds. You have to stop relying on source lines and look at the disassembly, of course. Also, oprofile wants debugging information, and there's no sense in turning optimisations off for that! Ben. -- Ben Hutchings When yo

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-23 Thread Ben Hutchings
; a result of -O2 getting better). It's now quite capable of telling the debugger that a source line has ended up in several different chunks of object code, and that a variable moves around between memory and registers. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings When you say `I wrote a program that crashed Wi

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
ol server. I don't know whether that supports queries by address or whether it just serves up whole debug databases, but it seems to work reasonably quickly. (But unsurprisingly it's providing quite sparse information about Windows binaries.) Ben. -- Ben Hutchings When you say `I wro

Re: Mandatory -dbg packages for libraries?

2007-04-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
rough that Wiki page suggests that the various "retrace" tools do that. So perhaps Apport would be suitable for Debian, though we would need to expand architecture support. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings When you say `I wrote a program that crashed Windows', people just stare ... and say `Hey,

Re: Bug#422367: ITP: kbuild -- framework for writing simple makefiles for complex tasks

2007-05-06 Thread Ben Hutchings
inux-kbuild (formerly kernel-kbuild). Ben. -- Ben Hutchings If God had intended Man to program, we'd have been born with serial I/O ports. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: A sane guess at default Debian mirror for pbuilder

2007-05-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
u want only one, this > hack would need to be refined. I can't help thinking that the code should never be reused. Even if its semantics are correct, the repeated re-parsing and pseudo-parsing with different tools is quite opaque. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Larkinson's Law: All laws ar

BoF: Supporting 15,000 packages - How much support do we mean?

2007-05-29 Thread Ben Hutchings
iscussion would yield something better that might eventually be accepted cover a whole release. So there will be a BoF at DebConf about this. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings For every complex problem there is a solution that is simple, neat, and wrong. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: BoF: Supporting 15,000 packages - How much support do we mean?

2007-05-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 19:46 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:51:38PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > There were some discussions on -private (and possibly here?) earlier in > > the year about quality vs quantity of packages. > > > It should be

Re: BoF: Supporting 15,000 packages - How much support do we mean?

2007-05-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 16:48 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 09:38:16PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 19:46 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 11:51:38PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > >

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-05-30 Thread Ben Hutchings
#x27;n/a') > distinfo.update({ 'RELEASE' : release, 'CODENAME' : codename }) > else: > distinfo['RELEASE'] = release > > if 'RELEASE' in distinfo: > distinfo['DESCRIPTION'] += ' %

Re: Plugin API/ABI versions

2007-06-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
ing dpkg-shlibdeps doesn't > work. So how should the -dev package provide correct dependency information > in these cases? The ion3 package provides "ion3-api-" + an API identifier, and separately-packaged modules depend on this. The API identifier is in one of the header

Re: BoF: Supporting 15,000 packages - How much support do we mean?

2007-06-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 18:22 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 01:58:02AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > > > What evidence do you have that serious security bugs "won't get > > > > > fixed" in a > > > > >

Re: BoF: Supporting 15,000 packages - How much support do we mean?

2007-06-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 16:22 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Sat, Jun 2, 2007 at 15:15:40 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > #382607 (CVE-2006-4041) has apparently not been touched in 9 months. > > This is probably mitigated by the fix for #368645 (CVE-2006-2314), but

Re: Is there a way to positively, uniquely identify which Debian release a program is running on?

2007-06-03 Thread Ben Hutchings
packages within them. However, if one wants technical support from an ISV, it is probably necessary to install a specific stable release and to avoid using packages from a mixture of releases (or backports). In this case, lsb_r

Bug#432507: ITP: libcgi-untaint-email-perl -- CGI::Untaint::email - validate an email address

2007-07-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: libcgi-untaint-email-perl Version : 0.03 Upstream Author : Tatsuhiko Miyagawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sea

Bug#432506: ITP: libcgi-untaint-date-perl -- CGI::Untaint::date - validate a date

2007-07-10 Thread Ben Hutchings
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: libcgi-untaint-date-perl Version : 1.00 Upstream Author : Tony Bowden * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~tmtm/CGI-Untain

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