On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 12:18:56PM +0200, somebody *claiming* to be Luna
Jernberg wrote:
Just to be 100% clear, that mail didn't come from Luna's normal gmail
account but was instead spoofed and sent via emkei.cz, a "free online
fake mailer". It's now blocked from
oo many to be
>bothered to check between 10 and 999 commits.
I understand what you're trying to say, but that's a disingenuous
comparison. systemd is a massive (some would say *too* massive)
project with fingers in many pies. How many of those people have
touched *networking* bits?
-
ult.
It hasn't been AFAIK, no. d-i always asks, with the default being "no".
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er. The 2.6 kernel boots up with at least initramfs
>accessable to it, and later initrd, if it needs a BLOB it should load
>it from there.
Agreed on this bit.
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ion moot. What annoys me is your constant
>pounding on other people's credibility, especially since you don't ever
>seem to accept anyone else's criticism of your credibility.
That's just Suffield being an annoying prick, as usual. Common
consenus is that he's generall
ary storage software for a living!), so I'll
get back to you tomorrow.
I've already written several patches for mkisofs and cdrecord over the
years I've been using them, so I'm quite experienced with the code.
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>
>(expect packages soon on http://mentors.debian.net/, we still need
>libvisual to be packaged and uploaded.)
Please use a less generic name. "player" alone means very little and
is likely to cause confusion.
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ually slow them at all.
Well, I'll say differently. I've produced the last several sets of
woody point release CD and DVD images. Each arch produced takes
time. Reducing the sets produced would make it much easier/faster to
get this done.
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On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 10:17:39AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Well, I'll say differently. I've produced the last several sets of
>> woody point release CD and DVD images. Each arch produced takes
>> tim
only, which
>allows me to safely remove it while still mounted; my trustdb and public
>keyring are synchronized in other ways.
Yep, exactly how I do it too. It works well - after all, you rarely
(if ever) need to update the contents then.
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attributing this to malice or incompetence - people need to sleep and
have some semblance of a life outside Debian, after all! m68k has
shown that a larger team of buildd admins and machines can work
effectively, allowing the least power
t have a
net connection for popcon or downloading from mirrors so they don't
show up in the figures.
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>the it.
Yes, it does now. Orlowski needed that bit explaining...
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mu
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>amd64 into Debian. There was a small crowd of them at FOSDEM.
Yes, there were. :-)
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Sven Luther wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 01:27:37AM +0000, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> Thus, for sarge, we plan to offer officially:
>>
>> * ISO images for business card and netinst CDs (for all architectures)
>> * ISO images for normal install CDs (for all architec
firewall, has no outside logins, and doesn't do
>much besides building packages.
>
>That'd reduce DSA's work load, not sacrifice security, and still afford
>some level of build activity even if the other system admins don't react
>immediately.
Yes,
projects with much fewer users and also much
>fewer developers, manage to release for more than 4 architecture?
>*BSD come to mind...
By having a much smaller set of software, mainly. The core BSDs are
*tiny* compared to what we try to ship in Debian.
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Toni wrote:
>
>On Wed, 16.03.2005 at 15:23:42 +, Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I wrote:
>> >Btw, why, or how, do other projects with much fewer users and also much
>> >fewer developers, manage to release for more than 4 architecture?
>>
If more people want to come and help get CDs and DVDs done, please
dive in. Some of the effort is centralised so far (like creating the
official images), but we'd love to share that out when possible. And
of course there's always more work in testing... :-)
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However, part of the point of the N+1 specification is for
redundancy/resiliency...
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Hey Steve,
Steve Langasek wrote:
>On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 11:41:59AM +0000, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
>> >- the release architecture must have N+1 buildds where N is the number
>> > required to keep up with the volume of uploaded packages
>
>> >- the value of N
an agree with other distros and the LSB on what we call a new 64-bit
PowerPC, that seems like a no-brainer to me...
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>supporting their hardware.
It'd be more useful getting the existing offered hardware up and
running before asking for more. We have several arm boxes waiting to
be used...
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er chroots on auric, but this may be dependent on another
>sparc buildd being brought on-line (and one is in the works) so that auric
>isn't doing double-duty as a porter machine and buildd.
I have an Ultra 30 available for devel/test if it'll help. Mail
/when/if we can
drop 2.4 kernels then we should get some space back.
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7;s time I move on.
>
>I'm truly sorry that I have neglected my packages for so long.
>
>I'd like to offer these three packages for adoption: x-symbol, xmix,
>and oneko.
I'll happily take xmix, as I use it myself...
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>
>What's the Right Way(tm) to include the output of a perl script into a web
>page?
Why not just use
Works for me...
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bably the sound driver you should
>be using! It looks extremely good, but I never tried it here with my gus
>(no time :|)
I'm using it here without problems - _far_ better than the OSS GUS support
for most things. I've even volunteered to Debianise it, but it'll take
some time
g with DNS services for college and
bootp/tftp services for the printers; it all worked out of the box.
Congratulations everyone!
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I'm happy that we can work with this license, as we distribute diffs.
Thomas thinks otherwise. Thoughts?
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OK, I guess I'd better try and contact the author... I'll report any
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7;s probably true, but that
>doesn't make you to the master of the interpretation of the SC.
Ssh. The great Suffield has spoken...
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>
>And you're not just providing constructive feedback. You're also picking
>personal fights with the release team and speculating wildly and as
>negatively as possible about their motives. Please stop. It's obnoxious,
>abusive, and unhelpful.
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DVD. That _does_ mean that vendors only need to worry about supplying
the 3rd DVD if they're shipping ia64 binary CDs/DVDs.
It will also matter for the (unofficial) amd64 images, but there will
be other amd64-specific sources needed too in that case and I'm still
loo
ly AMD64 is unofficial (apart for the use of uppercase) ?
>Did not the security team and the SRM just agreed to support it ?
>Is it not sufficient for the official label ?
Security.d.o may have been promised, but sarge/amd64 will not be
hosted within the official archive - Debian did n
dusa:~$ locate kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386_2.4.18-13.1_i386.deb
/mirror/debian-security/pool/updates/main/k/kernel-image-2.4.18-1-i386/kernel-image-2.4.18-1-386_2.4.18-13.1_i386.deb
And I see jvw has already mentioned that you have some files listed
that were in woody-p-u
linked to from
>> http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
>
>True, but none are available for the DVD images.
Oops, that'll be a bug then. I'll investigate.
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Frans Pop writes:
>
>On Monday 14 August 2006 14:43, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> The DVD torrents are already produced, just not linked from the page
>> at http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/. Check out
>
>I've committed a change to the d-i page that adds all
warned people that they need at
least the first 2 CDs (or the first DVD) to get a full selection of
the available tasks. As time goes on and each desktop env adds more
bloat^Wfeatures, it becomes more and more difficult to get them to fit
on CD#1. Frans reminds me that we're about to regain
Manoj wrote:
>
>As per policy, I am raising a balloon about ths issue; I think
> if we ship vacation, finger, and sharutils, we can also ship
> mandatory acess controls in the standard distribution :)
Sounds like a good plan to me...
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en
>setting MAILTO in a crontab.
Ditto tools like ssh, where @ is assumed to be a separator between
local part and machine name.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write:
>Hi,
>
>Here is a list (sorted by maintainer email) of packages:
>- that have RC bugs
>- that are in unstable, but not in testing
>
>(U) means "Uploader".
>
>Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> motifnls
I missed anything screamingly
obvious here?
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>>to this mail - note the Reply-To to the debian-cd list.
>
>Do you plan to use the live-package to build the live cds or some new
>code into debian-cd ? If you're going to pick live-package i submitted
>a patch to Daniel that would permit use a tasksel based
ame boot sector, but it's really not likely.
>(Does weird iron contain strange quarks in its nuclei?)
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On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 03:04:54PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
>Bad news I'm afraid. I've worked through the mkisofs boot code again,
>and I get:
>
>alpha:Writing
On Sat, Dec 23, 2006 at 12:57:44PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
>Steve McIntyre dijo [Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 03:04:54PM +]:
>> Bad news I'm afraid. I've worked through the mkisofs boot code again,
>> and I get:
>> (...)
>> I'm looking further to see if it&#
On Thu, Dec 28, 2006 at 08:32:28PM +, Thiemo Seufer wrote:
>Steve McIntyre wrote:
>[snip]
>> mips
>>
>> jealously scribbles all over the first 512 bytes
>
>I figure that's a DVH "Disk Volume Header" as used on SGI machines.
Yup, exactly.
Eduard Block wrote:
>#include
>* Steve McIntyre [Wed, Dec 20 2006, 06:29:04PM]:
>
>> Gnome vs. KDE vs. XFCE
>> ==
>>
>> The KDE and XFCE variants of CD#1 are now being produced to give more
>> choice to people for initial installation.
support with Matthew for Ubuntu,
and has just joined our NM queue to help work on exactly this kind of
thing. I've copied him for information...
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these days, as
well as the machine I carry around with music etc. on it. The less I
use up space on the -doc packages I have installed, the more
music/data files I have space for on the disk...
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>solutions. It's a variant of the «release often, release early»
>principle.
>
>The downside of doing this is the extra load on the autobuilder
>network, so Debian might not want to do it because of that.
It might affect the mirrors, too...
Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 10:54:34PM +0000, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>> >
>> >The downside of doing this is the extra load on the autobuilder
>> >network, so Debian might not want to do it because of that.
>>
&g
runtime libraries; see libupnp-dev
for the headers needed for developing programs using libupnp.
libupnp is required for another package I'm ITPing - wmaloader.
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Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there
must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cab
tpbm, but I wouldn't want to see people pick it up expecting an easy
job. We might even be better off dropping the whole package
completely, but for the fact that it has quite a lot of dependents.
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:-)
No. From http://news.netcraft.com/archives/about_netcraft.html:
...
Netcraft is an Internet services company based in Bath, England.
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Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you rem
>
>Right now it's possible only by looking jigdo files.=20
>
>Online browser/search engine is on my TODO list :/
I'm going to look into automatically producing list files as part of
the CD build process...
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[ Forwarded to -devel for discussion ]
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 02:30:16PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 01:54:32PM +0200, Simon K?gstr?m wrote:
>>Package: seyon
>>Version: 2.20c-16
>>Severity: grave
>>Justification: renders package unusable
&g
Joey Hess wrote:
>
>Please fix your packages. Filing bugs on nearly 500 packages is
>something I'd prefer not to do, but it might come to that. We've been
>working on this transition for 5 or 6 years now, and it's about time to
>finish it.
>Steve McIntyre &
Joey Hess wrote:
...
>Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> cvs
> nas
> seyon
New versions of all three uploaded tonight to fix this...
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source disks,
>architectures other than i386 and amd64, gpg signing, etc.
Cool! Sounds like you've made a good start already. Be prepared for a
lot more work to follow, though - there's a *lot* of work involved,
possibly more than you realise. :-)
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>> > own VCS format. (or are there other packages, too?)
>>
>> $ apt-cache showsrc rcs | grep Vcs
>> Vcs-Browser: http://git.debian.org/?p=users/rfrancoise/rcs.git
>> Vcs-Git: git://git.debian.org/git/users/rfrancoise/rcs.git
>
&
ts we
should choose. I'm happy that we picked a very good set. There was
scope to have made different selections here and there, but the 9 that
we chose all succeeded: they all met their goals.
I'm not greatly convinced by your arguments that DDs and DMs should
automatically be barred f
all's good.
4. ??? - what else would be a sane option?
Suggestions/comments/complaints - please let us know what you'd
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Suspended animation, A state of bl
[ /me sets the Reply-To: to debian-cd again... ]
AJ wrote:
>On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 11:59:52PM +0000, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> 2 small CDs per arch (business card, netinst)
>> ~30 CDs per arch for a full CD set
>> ~4 DVDs per arch for a full DVD set
>> (tot
that it might allow lots of our normal archive mirrors to become
CD ISO mirrors or torrent seeders. But I got distracted from it quite
a while back...
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still needs significant work to boost performance. I've been a
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>
>Yes, that's what I mean: what's wrong with making rm -i the default
>behaviour? We could do that by simply patching coreutils.
Christ, no. If you want Fedora you know where to find it.
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ages and tools are available to
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over the years why our version of testing exists and how it's going to
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ally, I think the last thing we need is a GR on this front right
now. There's still discussion going on and plenty of scope for
interested people to make their feelings known. We don't need the
overhead of a GR at all that I can see.
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gt;not remove them).
I'm still unconvinced by /srv personally - we've strived for years in
Debian to make things work as much as possible straight from initial
installation, yet now we're expected to deliberately leave services
unconfigured. I don't think this is progress for most
erver (<< 2.5.2)
Filename: pool/main/n/nexuiz-data/nexuiz-data_2.5.2-1_all.deb
Size: 793400238
...
If you ever want this to be available on Debian CDs, you're going to
have to do something about the size. For now, I'm going to blacklist
this package altogether.
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:21:21PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
>On Friday 20 November 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> If you ever want this to be available on Debian CDs, you're going to
>> have to do something about the size. For now, I'm going to blacklist
>> this pac
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 02:00:18PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>Package: nexuiz-data
>Version: 2.5.2-1
>Severity: serious
>
>Any reason for not reporting this as a proper bug? Doing that with this
>post.
True, should have done that too. Thanks. :-)
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On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 05:01:07PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
>On Friday 20 November 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> For now, I've added a cutoff of 300,000,000 bytes as a maximum package
>> size for adding to CDs. That means that the following 3 packages will
>> be dropped
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 04:18:54PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 05:01:07PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
>>On Friday 20 November 2009, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>>> For now, I've added a cutoff of 300,000,000 bytes as a maximum package
>>> size for ad
this problem. Every now and again I'll skim to see if anybody needs
help with CDs or jigdo or whatever, but the sheer amount of OT dross
is a great discouragement to that. I know it's very likely that I'll
miss questions I could be answering when I *do* hav
ry rapid drive failure. Even worse, this is often provoked in
groups such that RAID setups can still fail due to multiple failures.
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ld often crash, drop
connections or chew lots of CPU for no apparent reason. Unless things
have improved substantially since, I would recommend strongly against
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>I tend to favor it for experimentation as it's packaged in sid
>already, is actively maintained, and has support for using the NULL
>RR type allowing much more data to fit in a "downstream" response.
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images as they're not versioned. I'll stop
adding the files onto the CDs in the daily/weekly images shortly when
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ndard set of options, and have each package provide a wrapper
script as necessary to support those options.
Thoughts?
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Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Who needs computer imagery when you've got Brian Blessed?
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Sune wrote:
>On 2008-10-12, Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> 3. Write a wrapper script to deal with each possible terminal program
>> and map from a standard set of options to the specific options for
>> that program.
>>
>> Ideal
kernel (I will
>bake cookies anyway)
> * Julien Danjou (fr) for not fixing the glibc on s390
> * Dominic Hargreaves (li) for letting the maintainer fix #501427
Dom's actually in the UK, ignore the .li email address. :-)
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Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.
shipping Dell servers seem to be using the same
hardware too. That's already bitten me at my day job, where we have
lots of them.
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Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED]
< sladen> I actually stayed in a hotel and arrived to find a post-it
tever
>gets posted to -news, -anounce and -devel-announce", like it or not) by
>making us look like jerks or sexists and whatnot.
And because of that I've asked the listmasters to block him from
posting to d-d-a.
Let's stop the discussion now, please. I'm sure
>voting period?
I'm fairly certain there wasn't one.
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is in use on a military site..." -- Simon Booth
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