Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2014-01-08 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Sonntag, den 05.01.2014, 15:09 +0100 schrieb Guillem Jover: On Thu, 2014-01-02 at 17:22:33 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: You raise some very valid points and §I appreciate your concerns and perhaps should rephrase my request so that I'm suggesting subsuming the most common used features

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2014-01-05 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le samedi, 4 janvier 2014, 19.54:05 Stefano Rivera a écrit : Hi Jonathan (2014.01.02_19:22:33_+0200) * having to support remote signing It would be fair enough to stderr not supported, please use the older tool in devscripts and error 1 if such an argument was provided. That would

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2014-01-05 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Sunday 05 January 2014 11:58:07 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Le samedi, 4 janvier 2014, 19.54:05 Stefano Rivera a écrit : Hi Jonathan (2014.01.02_19:22:33_+0200) * having to support remote signing It would be fair enough to stderr not supported, please use the older tool in

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2014-01-05 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2014-01-02 at 17:22:33 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: You raise some very valid points and §I appreciate your concerns and perhaps should rephrase my request so that I'm suggesting subsuming the most common used features of debsign and perhaps as part of a staged migration (compat

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2014-01-04 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Jonathan (2014.01.02_19:22:33_+0200) * having to support remote signing It would be fair enough to stderr not supported, please use the older tool in devscripts and error 1 if such an argument was provided. That would be pragmatic if (as I suspect) -r is rarely used. Aww. I'm a

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2014-01-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:27:29PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: * signing would get rafactored into a new program so that users do not need to manually mangle the .changes file, rebuild or require devscripts for something that was possible out-of-the-box. I chose to read that as debsign

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2014-01-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2014-01-02 at 09:24:55 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:27:29PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: * signing would get rafactored into a new program so that users do not need to manually mangle the .changes file, rebuild or require devscripts for

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2014-01-02 Thread Jonathan Dowland
You raise some very valid points and §I appreciate your concerns and perhaps should rephrase my request so that I'm suggesting subsuming the most common used features of debsign and perhaps as part of a staged migration (compat symlink to debsign binary name in the phase 1, real name dpkg-sign or

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2014-01-02 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 12:27:29PM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: I guess it's probably a good idea to switch the default, becuse I assume most maintainers do more test builds than final ones. Or users who either don't have gpg installed or don't have a gpg key. Although with the current

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2014-01-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Roger Leigh writes (Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)): On the sbuild/buildd side, we have run dpkg-buildpackage with -us -uc by default for years. If you do enable signing, as is the case for buildd uploads, we run debsign

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2013-12-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! [ CCing debian-devel to get input from possibly afftected users. ] On Tue, 2013-12-24 at 15:14:22 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Package: dpkg-dev Severity: wishlist File: /usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage X-Debbugs-CC: Arno Töll a...@debian.org Please disable signing by default. Generally the

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2013-12-30 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org, 2013-12-30, 12:27: I guess it's probably a good idea to switch the default, becuse I assume most maintainers do more test builds than final ones. ACK If most people agree this would be an improvement, and not just an annoyance, I'm happy to do the change.

Re: Bug#733029: dpkg-buildpackage: disable signing by default (-us -uc should be the default)

2013-12-30 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 30 Dec 2013, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org, 2013-12-30, 12:27: I guess it's probably a good idea to switch the default, becuse I assume most maintainers do more test builds than final ones. ACK And also, it should be friendly to non-maintainers who are just