Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-24 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 10/24/18 4:37 PM, Joseph Myers wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > >>> Carlos, do you agree we have consensus on the Python 3.4 requirement (the >>> patch to add >>> that requirement still needs to be reviewed)?

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-24 Thread Joseph Myers
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > Carlos, do you agree we have consensus on the Python 3.4 requirement (the > > patch to add > > that requirement still needs to be reviewed)? > > I agree we have consensus and that the

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-24 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 10/24/18 1:43 PM, Joseph Myers wrote: > On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Joseph Myers wrote: > >> On Mon, 22 Oct 2018, Helmut Grohne wrote: >> >>> Daniel Schepler is working on a native bootstrap approach. As far as I >>> understand, he natively bootstraps Debian from non-Debian (same >>> processor

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-24 Thread Joseph Myers
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Joseph Myers wrote: > On Mon, 22 Oct 2018, Helmut Grohne wrote: > > > Daniel Schepler is working on a native bootstrap approach. As far as I > > understand, he natively bootstraps Debian from non-Debian (same > > processor architecure and kernel). I expect that his work will

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-24 Thread Joseph Myers
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018, Helmut Grohne wrote: > Daniel Schepler is working on a native bootstrap approach. As far as I > understand, he natively bootstraps Debian from non-Debian (same > processor architecure and kernel). I expect that his work will be > impacted by the proposed change. I've added

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-22 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:38:15AM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > It is possible that the build *and* host require python 3.4. > > The reason being that when cross-testing glibc with the test-wrapper-env > script the build system may execute a command on the host system to > run python (which

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-22 Thread Daniel Schepler
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 7:15 AM Helmut Grohne wrote: > Daniel Schepler is working on a native bootstrap approach. As far as I > understand, he natively bootstraps Debian from non-Debian (same > processor architecure and kernel). I expect that his work will be > impacted by the proposed change.

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-22 Thread Joseph Myers
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > There are at least several pretty-printing tests which use python, and > require PExpect, and those run on the host during testing via the > test-wrapper-env abstraction. The normal case for tests written using Python is that it runs on the build

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-22 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 10/22/18 10:15 AM, Helmut Grohne wrote: > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:51:25AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: >> On 2018-10-19 09:47, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >>> This proposal is to being circulated to all the distribution >>> maintainers to gain their acceptance surrounding the use of >>> python

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-22 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 11:51:25AM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On 2018-10-19 09:47, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > This proposal is to being circulated to all the distribution > > maintainers to gain their acceptance surrounding the use of > > python 3.4 or greater for building glibc. > > > >

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-22 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Hi Carlos, hi all, On 2018-10-19 09:47, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > This proposal is to being circulated to all the distribution > maintainers to gain their acceptance surrounding the use of > python 3.4 or greater for building glibc. > > There has been concern expressed that requiring python 3.4 >

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-21 Thread Khem Raj
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 2:47 PM Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > This proposal is to being circulated to all the distribution > maintainers to gain their acceptance surrounding the use of > python 3.4 or greater for building glibc. > > There has been concern expressed that requiring python 3.4 > or

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-21 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Freitag, 19. Oktober 2018, 15:47:14 CEST schrieb Carlos O'Donell: > This proposal is to being circulated to all the distribution > maintainers to gain their acceptance surrounding the use of > python 3.4 or greater for building glibc. > [...] > Andreas, > > Any input from Gentoo? > Well,

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-19 Thread Allan McRae
On 19/10/18 11:47 pm, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > Allan, > > Any input from Arch Linux? Arch Linux has no issue with that requirement. Allan

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-19 Thread Joseph Myers
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > Joseph, > > Any input from Mentor Graphics? All our builds of current glibc have Python 3.5 available at build time (locally built; the Python 3 installation from the OS is 3.4), so are unaffected. -- Joseph S. Myers jos...@codesourcery.com

Re: Propose requiring Python 3.4 or later for building glibc.

2018-10-19 Thread Adam Conrad
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 09:47:14AM -0400, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > Adam, > > Any input from Ubuntu? I think the more tools you involve in any bootstrap process, the more painful you're going to make it for people bringing up a new arch. Python isn't exactly lightweight (though there are ways