On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 02:05:33PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
If you don't want US time, don't set US time.
Instead, do something like:
LC_TIME=en_BE.UTF-8
which means "I want time in English, but using Belgian customs, not the
US ones".
You may have to custom edit
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 10:42:06 +0100
Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> Yes, that's normal that only LANG is set, as it's the one with less
> priority. That said there was clearly something setting LC_ALL to
> en.US-UTF-8 before, you might want to grep /etc for that. When only LANG
> is set, you should get
On 2019-02-08 14:33, Roman Mamedov wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 10:21:41 +0100
> Aurelien Jarno wrote:
>
> > What is the content of /etc/default/locale? it looks like you have an
> > additional entry than the LANG one set by dpkg-reconfigure locales.
>
> "dpkg-reconfigure locales" only writes
On Fri, 8 Feb 2019 10:21:41 +0100
Aurelien Jarno wrote:
> What is the content of /etc/default/locale? it looks like you have an
> additional entry than the LANG one set by dpkg-reconfigure locales.
"dpkg-reconfigure locales" only writes LANG=C.UTF-8 (or any other accordingly)
to that file. This
On 2019-02-07 14:55, Roman Mamedov wrote:
> So for those of us (the entire world), who have been relying on this behavior:
>
> > * en_US (.UTF-8) is used as the default English locale for all places that
> > don't have a specific variant (and often even then). Generally, technical
> > users
On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 10:21:49PM +0100, Ansgar wrote:
(And you get 24-hour time, but very strange Endian in C.UTF-8:
WEEKDAY MMM DD HH:MM:SS TZ
while en_US.UTF-8 has at least DD MMM ... Having
-MM-DD HH:MM:SS[+]
instead would be much nicer if we were to create an arbitrary
Michael Stone writes:
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 09:20:07PM +0100, Ondřej Surý wrote:
>>en_DK.UTF-8 is a good default locale?
>
> I think the suggestion of just "en" made the most sense--specify the
> language and an arbitrary set of rules that aren't tied to a specific
> country.
C.UTF-8 has the
On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 04:08:21PM +0100, Ansgar wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-02-07 at 09:59 -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> > POSIX specifies the output format for various utilities in the C locale,
> > which defeats my understanding of the purpose of this proposal. So, for
> > example, in ls -l:
>
> I
On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 02:40:06PM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 at 14:05:33 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > a locale for a silly country with weird customs
>
> Please don't take this tone. Insulting people who disagree with you[1]
> is rarely an effective way to persuade
On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 04:08:21PM +0100, Ansgar wrote:
On Thu, 2019-02-07 at 09:59 -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 02:40:06PM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> How would this locale differ from C.UTF-8? Is the only difference
> that C.UTF-8 has strict lexicographical sorting,
On Thu, 2019-02-07 at 09:59 -0500, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 02:40:06PM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
> > How would this locale differ from C.UTF-8? Is the only difference
> > that C.UTF-8 has strict lexicographical sorting, whereas "en" would
> > have
> > case-insensitive
On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 02:40:06PM +, Simon McVittie wrote:
How would this locale differ from C.UTF-8? Is the only difference
that C.UTF-8 has strict lexicographical sorting, whereas "en" would have
case-insensitive sorting like en_GB.utf8 does? (If that's the only
difference, then perhaps
On Thu, 07 Feb 2019 at 14:05:33 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> a locale for a silly country with weird customs
Please don't take this tone. Insulting people who disagree with you[1]
is rarely an effective way to persuade them that you're right and
they're wrong.
> • promoting C.UTF-8 in our user
Peter Silva writes ("Re: Bug#877900: How to get 24-hour time on en_US.UTF-8
locale now?"):
> iso_en ? That sounds smart...
>
> English for most of the world that aren't necessarily native English speakers?
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_English
> Use ISO
iso_en ? That sounds smart...
English for most of the world that aren't necessarily native English
speakers? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_English
Use ISO dates and stuff, and pick a random spelling. As a Canadian, I'm
pretty sure about colour, but unclear about whether we should
On Thu, Feb 07, 2019 at 02:55:33PM +0500, Roman Mamedov wrote:
> So for those of us (the entire world), who have been relying on this behavior:
>
> > * en_US (.UTF-8) is used as the default English locale for all places that
> > don't have a specific variant (and often even then). Generally,
So for those of us (the entire world), who have been relying on this behavior:
> * en_US (.UTF-8) is used as the default English locale for all places that
> don't have a specific variant (and often even then). Generally, technical
> users use English as a system locale
How do we roll-back
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