Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

Am Donnerstag 03 September 2015, 16:37:09 schrieb Andrey Rahmatullin: > On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 12:43:37PM +0200, Christian Hilberg wrote: > > "It's all automatic" is the bit I missed. I was under the impression > > that this would be true for experimental->unstable only > experimental->unstable

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

Hi Brad, thanks for clarifying matters. A few more bits inline. Am Donnerstag 03 September 2015, 14:19:53 schrieb Brad Rogers: > On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:43:37 +0200 > Christian Hilberg wrote: > > Hello Christian, > > >> You appear to expect somebody (well, several >

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 06:30:13PM +0200, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > Am 03.09.2015 um 18:12 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: > >> Packages from Debian Unstable enter the next-stable testing distribution > >> automatically, when a list of requirements is fulfilled: [...] The package > >> does not

Re: Plasma past G++ transition

On 09/03/2015 09:20 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Luc you could try install task-kde-desktop or install kde-plasma-desktop, thats in testing. In Sid, bits are still broken like not being able to install Gimp and/or you can't do a dist-upgrade but you can do an aptitude safe-upgrade and that is

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 16:54:32 +0200 Christian Hilberg wrote: Hello Christian, >I might bug you with some new bug reports in the meantime. :) Not me! :-) Like you, I'm a Debian user. I don't represent Debian or KDE in any way. All opinions are my own etc, etc. It

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 19:06:10 +0200 Diederik de Haas wrote: Hello Diederik, >allotted time, the package transitions to testing. I was surprised to see that "allotted time" can be as little as two days. Which doesn't give unstable users a lot of time to discover any real

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 03:03:35PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > Sorry, but before releasing a major package to "testing", shouldn't it be > tested against the "testing" environment? No, we don't do this. -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Plasma past G++ transition

Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2015, 05:37:13 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: > On 09/02/2015 01:46 AM, Luc Castermans wrote: > > this is very nice news! > > > > However I tried to make fresh install from Testing last weekend, and > > then get many dependency conflicts as > > soon as I issue a "aptitide

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

Am Donnerstag 03 September 2015, 18:12:04 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: > Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2015, 22:46:12 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > > Am 02.09.2015 um 19:50 schrieb Gary Dale: > > [...] > > > the brave souls who run sid do what they, not I, signed up for. > > I 100% support that

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

Am 03.09.2015 um 18:12 schrieb Martin Steigerwald: >> Packages from Debian Unstable enter the next-stable testing distribution >> automatically, when a list of requirements is fulfilled: [...] The package >> does not introduce new release critical bugs. > > So and now *who* reports these? > >

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 06:16:53PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > >allotted time, the package transitions to testing. > I was surprised to see that "allotted time" can be as little as two > days. Which doesn't give unstable users a lot of time to discover any > real nasties. Urgencies higher than

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2015, 22:46:12 schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: > Am 02.09.2015 um 19:50 schrieb Gary Dale: > > I know I've been using Debian for a long time. That's why I'm amazed that > > something this bad is being put into testing. When KDE4 came along, it at > > least was fairly stable

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 12:03:04PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > I've tended to view "testing" as a rolling release That's the main misunderstanding. We had several tries to design and/or create a rolling Debian distro but there is nothing currently existing AFAIK. And it takes a lot more effort than

Re: Plasma past G++ transition

Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2015, 08:46:49 schrieb Luc Castermans: > Op wo 2 sep. 2015 om 10:35 schreef Marco Valli : > > In data mercoledì 2 settembre 2015 10:26:29, Martin Steigerwald ha scritto: > > > Thanks to the Debian Qt/KDE team for this huge effort. > > > > +1 > > > >

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Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

On Thursday 03 September 2015 12:03:04 Gary Dale wrote: > I also used to think of the "testing" package maintainers as the > guardians at the gate There is no such thing. Package maintainers upload packages to unstable. When there are no Release Critical bugs reported by *users* of unstable in

Re: Plasma past G++ transition

Am Donnerstag, 3. September 2015, 23:29:07 schrieb Diederik de Haas: > On Thursday 03 September 2015 11:22:19 Thomas Fjellstrom wrote: > > > Using Sid temporarily may help, as the G++ ABI transition seems to be > > > completed there mostly. You can switch back to testing later. > > > > I'm not

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Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

On 03/09/15 03:42 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 03:03:35PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: Sorry, but before releasing a major package to "testing", shouldn't it be tested against the "testing" environment? No, we don't do this. Obviously, but the question was "shouldn't

Re: Plasma past G++ transition

Am Donnerstag, 3. September 2015, 10:05:59 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: > On 09/03/2015 09:20 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 2. September 2015, 05:37:13 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: > >> On 09/02/2015 01:46 AM, Luc Castermans wrote: > >>> this is very nice news! > >>> > >>> However I tried to

Re: Plasma past G++ transition

On Thursday 03 September 2015 11:22:19 Thomas Fjellstrom wrote: > > Using Sid temporarily may help, as the G++ ABI transition seems to be > > completed there mostly. You can switch back to testing later. > > > I'm not sure that's entirely accurate? The whole libstdc++6 transition is only at 29%

Re: Plasma past G++ transition

Am Donnerstag, 3. September 2015, 10:24:06 schrieb Jimmy Johnson: > On 09/03/2015 09:20 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > >>> Luc you could try install task-kde-desktop or install > >>> kde-plasma-desktop, thats in testing. In Sid, bits are still broken > >>> like not being able to install Gimp

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:12:52 +0200 Christian Hilberg wrote: Hello Christian, >I guess it might have been wiser to let the transitions happen in >unstable, since the massive breakage you mention was to be expected, >and have the smaller issues and oversights ironed out

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

Hi Brad, Am Mittwoch 02 September 2015, 16:16:10 schrieb Brad Rogers: > On Wed, 02 Sep 2015 10:21:47 -0400 > Gary Dale wrote: > > Hello Gary, > > >Yesterday I rebooted my computer but when it came back up and I logged > >in, Plasma was no longer usable. > > Come on

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

On Thursday, 3 September 2015 09:20:02 UTC+1, Christian Hilberg wrote: > Hi Brad, > > Am Mittwoch 02 September 2015, 16:16:10 schrieb Brad Rogers: > > On Wed, 02 Sep 2015 10:21:47 -0400 > > Gary Dale wrote: > > > > Hello Gary, > > > > >Yesterday I rebooted my computer

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Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

Hi Brad, Am Donnerstag 03 September 2015, 09:40:35 schrieb Brad Rogers: > On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 10:12:52 +0200 > Christian Hilberg wrote: > > Hello Christian, > > >I guess it might have been wiser to let the transitions happen in > >unstable, since the massive breakage

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Package: muon-notifier Version: 4:5.3.2-3 Severity: normal Dear Maintainer, did a clean install of debian testing using kde. After apt-get update there is no update notification in the system tray, although configured in kde system settings notification dialog und updates are really available

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 12:43:37PM +0200, Christian Hilberg wrote: > "It's all automatic" is the bit I missed. I was under the impression > that this would be true for experimental->unstable only experimental->unstable is fully manual (even requiring a new upload). -- WBR, wRAR signature.asc

Re: Plasma past G++ transition

On Thu 03 Sep 2015 11:29:07 PM Diederik de Haas wrote: > On Thursday 03 September 2015 11:22:19 Thomas Fjellstrom wrote: > > > Using Sid temporarily may help, as the G++ ABI transition seems to be > > > completed there mostly. You can switch back to testing later. > > > > I'm not sure that's

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Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

On Thu 03 Sep 2015 04:24:40 PM Gary Dale wrote: > On 03/09/15 03:42 PM, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 03:03:35PM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > >> Sorry, but before releasing a major package to "testing", shouldn't it be > >> tested against the "testing" environment? > > > >

Re: Plasma past G++ transition

On Fri 04 Sep 2015 02:09:39 AM Diederik de Haas wrote: > On Thursday 03 September 2015 17:08:56 Thomas Fjellstrom wrote: > > > The whole libstdc++6 transition is only at 29% atm, but almost all kde > > > packages are amongst that 29%. > > > > Hm, so i guess it'll be a few more weeks till it's all

Re: Plasma past G++ transition

On Fri 04 Sep 2015 03:43:44 AM Diederik de Haas wrote: > On Thursday 03 September 2015 19:16:12 Thomas Fjellstrom wrote: > > It seems like all the older virtual and meta packages are holding things > > back. > > That could very well be the case. There are a number of virtual/meta > packages which

Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

On Thu, 03 Sep 2015 12:43:37 +0200 Christian Hilberg wrote: Hello Christian, >> You appear to expect somebody (well, several >> somebodies) to stem the tide to avoid problems. >"Expecting" is not what I meant to express, it is more like "being I wasn't sure, hence

Re: Re: Plasma desktop unusable in stretch

On Thu, 3 Sep 2015 21:21:52 +0500 Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > That's the main misunderstanding. > We had several tries to design and/or create a rolling Debian distro but > there is nothing currently existing AFAIK. > And it takes a lot more effort than is currently spent on unstable and >

Re: Plasma past G++ transition

On Thursday 03 September 2015 19:16:12 Thomas Fjellstrom wrote: > It seems like all the older virtual and meta packages are holding things > back. That could very well be the case. There are a number of virtual/meta packages which have been 'retired' afaik > I may go in and remove things like