Bug#393329: After seemingly successful install on Turion X2 system, freeze on boot

2006-10-22 Thread Carl Fink
Additional data:  100% of the time, the system freezes on shutdown with
either -h or -r when given from an xterm.  If I'm at a VT, it works
normally.

I'm going to try to compile my own kernel to debug this.  Any hints about
what to try?
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Bug#393329: After seemingly successful install on Turion X2 system, freeze on boot

2006-10-20 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello,

On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 07:22:23AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
 Is there, perhaps, a debugging kernel I could test that logs everything?  If
 there isn't a prebuilt one, I might just compile one this weekend.

you should give an amd64 kernel a try. Install it with
dpkg --force-architecture. 

Best regards
Frederik Schueler

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Bug#393329: After seemingly successful install on Turion X2 system, freeze on boot

2006-10-19 Thread Carl Fink
Cesare asked me to test my RAM.

I ran memtest86+ overnight.  10 passes, no errors.

I don't think there was ever a RAM problem, I was just thrashing around,
trying to come up with something.

One more data point:  yesterday I acidentally booted into 2.6.16 and it
succeeded.  I got to xorg and was able to work normally.  A reboot
(shutdown -r) got stuck, just as the 486 kernel always does on reboot.  I
get a gray screen and no reboot.

Further attempts to boot 2.6.16 all freeze at the same point as before.  

Is there, perhaps, a debugging kernel I could test that logs everything?  If
there isn't a prebuilt one, I might just compile one this weekend.
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Bug#393329: After seemingly successful install on Turion X2 system, freeze on boot

2006-10-17 Thread Cesare Leonardi

Carl Fink wrote:

Removing the second SODIMM from the laptop had no effect, but
removing the first (and swapping the second into slot #1) seems to have
stopped the freezes, at least on ten minutes of work.  So maybe a
combination of kernel and hardware problems?


Since you suspect ram problems, i suggest you to try memtest86 or 
memtest86+ and run one of them as long as you can, to stress your RAM 
and to see if there are any errors. They are not infallible but can 
detect most ram problems.


You can install the debian packages or download the floppy or the iso 
bootable images from their sites:

memtest86:  http://www.memtest86.com
memtest86+: http://www.memtest.org

Good luck.

Cesare.


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Bug#393329: After seemingly successful install on Turion X2 system, freeze on boot

2006-10-16 Thread Carl Fink
Package: linux-image-2.6.17-2-k7-smp
Severity: important

I installed Etch on my HP Pavilion DV6119US, which uses a Turion X2 TL-50
dual-core processor.  After the install completed, I tried to boot off the
Linux partition, but received this message:

Checking TSC synchronization across 2 CPUs

And then nothing.  Solid freeze requiring power-off to restart.  Once in six
attempts at booting, after the above line I got:

CPU#0 had 2672658 usecs, TSC skew, fixed it up

And THEN a solid freeze.

The system works flawlessly under Windows Media Center Edition and when
booted from Knoppix CD.  I swapped RAM without changing anything.

Any suggestions?

Note that I've already reported this problem as bug#392895 (against the
installer).  Thinking about it, I actually suspect it's a kernel problem,
not an installer problem.  If you concur, you can (I believe) reassign
392895 as a dupe of this one.

Thank you for all your work on making Debian what it is.

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Bug#393329: After seemingly successful install on Turion X2 system, freeze on boot

2006-10-16 Thread Frans Pop
reassign 393329 linux-2.6
thanks

On Monday 16 October 2006 06:23, Carl Fink wrote:
 I installed Etch on my HP Pavilion DV6119US, which uses a Turion X2
 TL-50 dual-core processor.  After the install completed, I tried to
 boot off the Linux partition, but received this message:

 Checking TSC synchronization across 2 CPUs

 And then nothing.  Solid freeze requiring power-off to restart.  Once
 in six attempts at booting, after the above line I got:

 CPU#0 had 2672658 usecs, TSC skew, fixed it up

Can you check if this is still an issue with the 2.6.18 kernel from 
unstable?
You should be able to upgrade the kernel using the rescue mode of the 
installer (boot the installer with rescue).

You should probably also be able to get your system to boot by installing 
the 486 flavor of the kernel (that is also the kernel the installer 
uses); for this you could reinstall the system in expert mode.
That would at least give you a working kernel to fall back to.


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Bug#393329: After seemingly successful install on Turion X2 system, freeze on boot

2006-10-16 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 12:08:03PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:

 Can you check if this is still an issue with the 2.6.18 kernel from 
 unstable?
 You should be able to upgrade the kernel using the rescue mode of the 
 installer (boot the installer with rescue).

I installed 2.6.18-1-k7.  The first boot, I got to a shell prompt.  I
immediately switched sources.list back to etch (after switching to sid using
the rescue disk in order to install the updated kernel), then ran apt-get
udpate  apt-get dist-upgrade.  It froze after the third Get.  Solid,
power-down-required freeze.

Second boot stopped after adjusting the two CPUs by 89 and -89 usecs
respectively.  Solid freeze.

I'd think it was hardware, but the installer mostly works and Knoppix worked
fine.  Off to install the 486 kernel.

Data point: despite what I wrote above, none of these were SMP kernels to
date.  There is no 2.6.18 SMP kernel for K7 in sid, and the installer didn't
install one.

 You should probably also be able to get your system to boot by installing 
 the 486 flavor of the kernel (that is also the kernel the installer 
 uses); for this you could reinstall the system in expert mode.
 That would at least give you a working kernel to fall back to.

That appears to work fine.  Of course I'm not taking advantage of my
dual-core processor.

Sure looks like a real kernel bug, I'm sorry to say.

Update (I didn't send this immediately, obviously):  the 486 kernel would
complete the boot process, but I got power-off hangs after a few minutes of
work, twice.  Removing the second SODIMM from the laptop had no effect, but
removing the first (and swapping the second into slot #1) seems to have
stopped the freezes, at least on ten minutes of work.  So maybe a
combination of kernel and hardware problems?

Aargh.

Okay, further playing around.  (Sorry about the stream-of-consciousness
thing here.)  It seems that if I sit in X, no problems.  If I stay at a
console too long, freeze.  If xdm restarts, freeze. Um, what the?

It ends up being usable, since I generally sit in X and use xterms for
everything, but I would think that freezing in certain video modes, or when
xdm restarts (and presumably resets the video mode) is a bug.
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