mixmaster license

2000-05-09 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi! I'm currently packagin mixmaster 2.04b45 which is under the gpl, no problem there :). Unfortunaly newer versions of mixmaster are not released under the gpl any more. One part that I don't like about the new license[1] is the following paragraph (1.b.iii): [you may modify and

Re: mixmaster license

2000-05-09 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, 9 May 2000, Peter Palfrader wrote: ... One part that I don't like about the new license[1] is the following paragraph (1.b.iii): [you may modify and distribute the source only iff you] provide Anonymizer Inc. with a copy of the Source Code of such modifications or

Re: mixmaster license

2000-05-09 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 07:22:59AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, 9 May 2000, Peter Palfrader wrote: ... One part that I don't like about the new license[1] is the following paragraph (1.b.iii): [you may modify and distribute the source only iff you] provide Anonymizer

Re: mixmaster license

2000-05-09 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 07:22:59AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Tue, 9 May 2000, Peter Palfrader wrote: ... One part that I don't like about the new license[1] is the following paragraph (1.b.iii): [you may modify and distribute the source only iff you] provide Anonymizer

Re: mixmaster license

2000-05-09 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, 9 May 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: I think this is DFSG-free and can go to main. I don't. WHat if Anonymizer Inc. goes out of business? All of a sudden everyone loses the right to modify and distribute the source code. That's right. The oother question is: Is it DFSG-free if

Re: mixmaster license

2000-05-09 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... and grant Anonymizer Inc. a perpetual, royalty-free license to use and distribute the modifications or work in its products. DFSG-free? Yes, I think so. A lot of people will not *like* it,

Re: mixmaster license

2000-05-09 Thread Richard Braakman
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:00:04PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: A lot of people will not *like* it, for political reasons, but it does not affect the *practical* side of what you can to with free software (fix bugs, change functionality, share fixes and changes with with friends and

Re: mixmaster license

2000-05-09 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:00:04PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: [you must allow the author the right to use your modifications in proprietary programs]. it does not affect the *practical* side of what you can to with free software (fix bugs,

Re: mixmaster license

2000-05-09 Thread Richard Braakman
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 02:39:42PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:00:04PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: [you must allow the author the right to use your modifications in proprietary programs]. Oops, snipped too much.

Re: mixmaster license

2000-05-09 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] The part I was reacting to was: The oother question is: Is it DFSG-free if this part of the license would be changed to something like send us the modifications by email; if our company is without reach you are allowed to do without this

Re: mixmaster license

2000-05-09 Thread Joey Hess
Adrian Bunk wrote: I think this is DFSG-free and can go to main. Would you care to justify that remark? You could start by telling us how it doesn't conflict with sections 1, 3, 5, and 7 of the DFSG. (Have you _read_ the DFSG?) -- see shy jo

Re: mixmaster license

2000-05-09 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, 9 May 2000, Joey Hess wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: I think this is DFSG-free and can go to main. Would you care to justify that remark? You could start by telling us how it doesn't conflict with sections 1, 3, 5, and 7 of the DFSG. (Have you _read_ the DFSG?) Yes, I did read the

Re: mixmaster license

2000-05-09 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Tue, 09 May 2000, Brian Ristuccia wrote: This is similar to the Apple notification clause. If Anonymizer Inc. goes out of business or decides to take down their mail server you can no longer satisfy this term and thus can't modify the software at all. Notification clauses have been argued