Re: gnuplot license

2002-12-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The earliest copyright date in any of the gnuplot 3.7.1 source files is 1986; gnuplot 1.0.3 was relased November 16/17 that year in a series of postings to net.sources. Ah yes, you're right. I was confusing it with gnutar, which was named for John

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) What matters is if it's part of a total pattern: if so, then anyone who intended it to be part of such a total pattern is infringing, even if their piece, in isolation, would not be. What must

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure whether or not you disagree with me. Was it that hard to tell that my original different people scenario was meant as a situation where each of the things that each of the parties do is something they do because it makes sense in itself

EULA with GPL??

2002-12-17 Thread Terry Hancock
This came up in a local LUG ML I participate in ( http://www.sgvlug.org ) recently: Does the GPL as written (Vers. 2) allow a distributor of a modified software to impose a *use* restriction on users? At first, I thought, No way!, but I see the other guy's point ... Section 0, says in part:

Re: EULA with GPL??

2002-12-17 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 02:01 AM, Terry Hancock wrote: Does the GPL as written (Vers. 2) allow a distributor of a modified software to impose a *use* restriction on users? At first, I thought, No way!, but I see the other guy's point ... Iff the law were to allow such

Re: EULA with GPL??

2002-12-17 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 11:01:52PM -0800, Terry Hancock wrote: Does section 6 guarantee that the usage right is kept, or is it somehow guaranteed in law, or is there another section which addresses this (I've looked of course, but didn't see anything that seems to do it). Hmm. Thinking

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What must I say to communicate the message that the case you describe here is the *non-interesting* one? Well, it's the one that matters. You want

License of honeyd

2002-12-17 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
I was thinking on packaging honeyd [1] a small daemon to simulate servers and create a virtual honeynet. I'm, however, not completely sure the license is DFSG-free. License follows: /* * Copyright 2002 Niels Provos [EMAIL PROTECTED] * All rights reserved. * * Redistribution and use in source

Re: gnuplot license

2002-12-17 Thread Boris Veytsman
Sorry for replying to myself, but the following from the FAQ: Gnuplot is freeware in the sense that you don't have to pay for it. However it is not freeware in the sense that you would be allowed to distribute a modified version of your gnuplot freely. Please read and accept

w-agora license

2002-12-17 Thread Christian Surchi
[CCs are welcome] What about the license for w.agora? http://www.w-agora.com/en/license.php --- The w-agora license Copyright (c) 2000 Marc Druilhe. All rights reserved.

Re: gnuplot license

2002-12-17 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Simon Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 07:01:07PM -0600, Joe Wreschnig wrote: On Mon, 2002-12-16 at 09:23, Peter S Galbraith wrote: OT, but I'm sure most people first pick gnuplot because they think it is the GNU tool for the job. It's too bad that it capitalizes on

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:57:17AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What must I say to communicate the message that the case you describe here is the *non-interesting* one? Well, it's

Re: License of honeyd

2002-12-17 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 02:15:49PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: I was thinking on packaging honeyd [1] a small daemon to simulate servers and create a virtual honeynet. I'm, however, not completely sure the license is DFSG-free. [ Old 4-clause BSD license ] I'm ok with 1, 2

Re: License of honeyd

2002-12-17 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm ok with 1, 2 and 4. But 3 (and advertisement clause) I'm not sure about. I've searched the list but havent't found any information on wether advertisement clauses are ok or not. The latest license mentioning an advertisement clause

Re: EULA with GPL??

2002-12-17 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 02:56 AM, Glenn Maynard wrote: The GPL doesn't remove my right to sign a contract promising not to do something, and I believe this is a commonplace and legitimate--if annoying--practice that the GPL supports: companies can have employees sign NDAs, preventing

Re: EULA with GPL??

2002-12-17 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: As for relevance to Debian, can one assume that the GPL absolutely guarantees DFSG free? (As I'm pretty sure the DFSG *does* guarantee me this right). No. Patents can get in your way. We have GPL software (e.g., gimp-nonfree, due to Unisys patents

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-17 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:57:17AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: So that there is no way to evade the GPL by doing things that happen to be individually OK, and in sum, just happen to get around the license. They only way to do this is if it is

Re: w-agora license

2002-12-17 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Christian Surchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The w-agora license Copyright (c) 2000 Marc Druilhe. All rights reserved.

Re: GPL scripts with a GPL-incompatible interpreter

2002-12-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 17, 2002 at 11:07:27PM +0100, Henning Makholm wrote: MEANWHILE: The Danish communications engineer Dennis Damm realizes that efficient polynomial factorization can be used for an elegant analysis of network choke points. He quickly writes a prototype iplementation in AngstRom