Re: Freetype patent issues

2004-01-23 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 09:20:58PM +0100, Alex de Landgraaf wrote: Hey debian-legal, Interested in improving font-AAing in Debian, I've taken a look at some of the patches in Debian for the freetype package. Now patents have hinderd true AA using freetype in Debian in the past ( 2 years

Re: Bug#227159: ocaml: license conflict in Emacs Lisp support?

2004-01-23 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jan 21, 2004, at 21:27, Henning Makholm wrote: http://homepages.law.asu.edu/~dkarjala/cyberlaw/ PosSoftwareVNewCentury(DBstructures)(NDTex2003).htm It is not clear to me that this text talks about APIs at all. It seems to be about the *internal* structure of a database, which - in my

Re: Bug#227159: ocaml: license conflict in Emacs Lisp support?

2004-01-23 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jan 22, 2004, at 13:59, Jakob Bohm wrote: TINLA, IANAL Nor am I. How does this relate to (override, narrow, whatever) the precedent set by Lotus vs. Borland (the famous case about Quattro Pro reproducing the Look and Feel of Lotus-1-2-3, partially because it was also the Lotus-1-2-3

Re: Freetype patent issues

2004-01-23 Thread Måns Rullgård
Brian M. Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Debian is not patent-free, and will not be patent-free. CAST5 and CAST6 are patented but are available for use royalty free. DSA is patented by, IIRC, David Kravitz of the NSA. Putting a cursor on the screen using XOR is patented. The XOR cursor

Re: Freetype patent issues

2004-01-23 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 20:41, Måns Rullgård wrote: Brian M. Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If Apple decides to actively enforce its patent, you should upgrade the severity to serious if the license available for general use is not compatible with the Debian Free Software Guidelines.

Re: Cheops-ng: DFSG free or non-free?

2004-01-23 Thread Joe Moore
Wesley W. Terpstra said: So, what does that mean for a package where the copyright holder distributes the package with an extra clause and GPL? Can I redistribute it at all? PS. Please CC me on replies as I am not subscribed. IANAL, IANADD, IJRD-L. The last time this conversation came up,

Re: Cheops-ng: DFSG free or non-free?

2004-01-23 Thread Wesley W. Terpstra
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 11:27:20AM -0500, Joe Moore wrote: Wesley W. Terpstra said: So, what does that mean for a package where the copyright holder distributes the package with an extra clause and GPL? Can I redistribute it at all? PS. Please CC me on replies as I am not subscribed.

Re: Cheops-ng: DFSG free or non-free?

2004-01-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Wesley W. Terpstra wrote: He includes adns (GPL) in the source tarball; so, that's that. This means that they themselves are not allowed to distribute the program too, correct? Since they are violating the terms of adns's copyright? Yes, that's correct. Presumably

Re: Cheops-ng: DFSG free or non-free?

2004-01-23 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Wesley W. Terpstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 11:27:20AM -0500, Joe Moore wrote: If the package contains GPL'd code that is written by someone other than the main copyright holder (Adtran), then the package is undistributable. He includes adns (GPL) in the source

Re: Cheops-ng: DFSG free or non-free?

2004-01-23 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Wesley W. Terpstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a package which has in the COPYING file this text: Cheops is distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License. In addition, Adtran's name MAY NOT be removed from the product (or any derivative work) and must be prominantly

Re: Cheops-ng: DFSG free or non-free?

2004-01-23 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 07:43:44PM +0100, Wesley W. Terpstra wrote: He includes adns (GPL) in the source tarball; so, that's that. This means that they themselves are not allowed to distribute the program too, correct? Since they are violating the terms of adns's copyright? If it's a

Re: Bug#216667: Freetype patent issues

2004-01-23 Thread Anthony Fok
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 08:08:03AM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: patch (030-bytecode-interpreter.diff), I suspect this patch still remains from the 1.0 freetype series, when this and other patches were used to supply an unpatented bytecode interpreter. According to the freetype site,

Re: Bug#216667: Freetype patent issues

2004-01-23 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 23:12, Anthony Fok wrote: I just did some experiments, and it seems that the prettier version (http://descent.netsplit.com/~scott/fonts-upstream.png) was rendered with FreeType's autohinting on. In that case, I suggest modifying /etc/fonts/local.conf and uncomment the

Non-free package licenses and replacements

2004-01-23 Thread Niklas Vainio
I've put up a web page listing possible replacements for packages currently in non-free. There are still lot of blanks - please give suggestions. Perhaps this page can help in the discussion about removing non-free. Also included is explanation why the package is in non-free. This is based on the

Re: [nvidia-*] Non-free package licenses and replacements

2004-01-23 Thread Jakob Bohm
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 02:29:39AM +0200, Niklas Vainio wrote: I've put up a web page listing possible replacements for packages currently in non-free. There are still lot of blanks - please give suggestions. Perhaps this page can help in the discussion about removing non-free. Also

Re: Bug#216667: Freetype patent issues

2004-01-23 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le sam 24/01/2004 à 00:12, Anthony Fok a écrit : I just did some experiments, and it seems that the prettier version (http://descent.netsplit.com/~scott/fonts-upstream.png) was rendered with FreeType's autohinting on. Yes, enabling the autohinter disables the bytecode interpreter as the two

Re: [upx-nrv] Non-free package licenses and replacements

2004-01-23 Thread Jakob Bohm
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 02:29:39AM +0200, Niklas Vainio wrote: I've put up a web page listing possible replacements for packages currently in non-free. There are still lot of blanks - please give suggestions. Perhaps this page can help in the discussion about removing non-free. Also