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2004-06-04 Thread Frankie Fuller
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Re: You can't get a copy unless you accept the GPL [was: Re: libkrb53 - odd license term]

2004-06-04 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [040602 16:42]: If you want to *download* the sofware, then you'd better do it by the GPL's terms. Downloading implies that you are instructing some computer to make create a copy of the Work on your hard drive. Because computers, legally speaking, do not

Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-04 Thread Matthieu Delahaye
Hi, I'm currently working on a correct debianisation of uC++ [1] with their author. They already provide debian packages but they are not 100% respecting Debian policies. The author wrote a consistent manual for this software [2]. Currently the license is not usable to be uploaded under Debian.

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-04 Thread Walter Landry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthieu Delahaye) wrote: Hi, I'm currently working on a correct debianisation of uC++ [1] with their author. They already provide debian packages but they are not 100% respecting Debian policies. The author wrote a consistent manual for this software [2]. Currently the

Re: You can't get a copy unless you accept the GPL [was: Re: libkrb53 - odd license term]

2004-06-04 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I make photocopies of a book and put them on a shelf with a Free! sign, and you then take a copy, I'm the one who made the copy available, and the one needing permission from the copyright holder. The thing that needs permission is not making the

Re: Bug#251983: libcwd: QPL license is non-free; package should not be in main

2004-06-04 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 05:15:50AM +0200, Carlo Wood wrote: If this is agreed upon by everyone - then it makes sense to talk about the choice of venue versus choise of law thing. Provided that libcwd WILL be included in Debian, I am willing to change the wording of the last sentence into one

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-04 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-06-04 11:43:45 +0100 Matthieu Delahaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I just want to know if there is a list of common license for documentation that are definitively known to be DFSG free. I'm not sure about definitive, but generally most DFSG-free licences would work for any

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-04 Thread Josh Triplett
MJ Ray wrote: Related, is the following licence DFSG-free: I grant permission to you to do any act with my work. Please ask me to link to mirrors. Please link to this site and credit the contributors. No warranty offered and no liability accepted. Please link to this site seems non-free to

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-04 Thread Måns Rullgård
MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2004-06-04 11:43:45 +0100 Matthieu Delahaye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] I just want to know if there is a list of common license for documentation that are definitively known to be DFSG free. I'm not sure about definitive, but generally most

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-04 Thread Lewis Jardine
Josh Triplett wrote: MJ Ray wrote: Related, is the following licence DFSG-free: I grant permission to you to do any act with my work. Please ask me to link to mirrors. Please link to this site and credit the contributors. No warranty offered and no liability accepted. Please link to this

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-04 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 10:53:29AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: MJ Ray wrote: Related, is the following licence DFSG-free: I grant permission to you to do any act with my work. Please ask me to link to mirrors. Please link to this site and credit the contributors. No warranty offered

Re: libkrb53 - odd license term

2004-06-04 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jun 3, 2004, at 15:12, Glenn Maynard wrote: Be careful. You're quoting US law in an international context. Not everyone lives in the US. You're right, this is isn't the MIT Kerberos, it's the KTH one...

Re: libkrb53 - odd license term

2004-06-04 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 03:50:37PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Jun 3, 2004, at 15:12, Glenn Maynard wrote: Be careful. You're quoting US law in an international context. Not everyone lives in the US. You're right, this is isn't the MIT Kerberos, it's the KTH one... I'm not

Re: You can't get a copy unless you accept the GPL [was: Re: libkrb53 - odd license term]

2004-06-04 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jun 3, 2004, at 20:27, Henning Makholm wrote: But that is actually irrelevant. The relevant part is that no matter where you consider the copy to be made, *I* am the one who is causing the computers (my own and the server) to make a copy at that particular time and place. So then the

Re: Which license for a documentation?

2004-06-04 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jun 4, 2004, at 13:53, Josh Triplett wrote: MJ Ray wrote: Related, is the following licence DFSG-free: I grant permission to you to do any act with my work. Please ask me to link to mirrors. Please link to this site and credit the contributors. No warranty offered and no liability

Re: libkrb53 - odd license term

2004-06-04 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jun 4, 2004, at 15:55, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 03:50:37PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Jun 3, 2004, at 15:12, Glenn Maynard wrote: Be careful. You're quoting US law in an international context. Not everyone lives in the US. You're right, this is isn't the

Re: libkrb53 - odd license term

2004-06-04 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 05:24:31PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: Also, assume for a moment there is a jurisdiction, FOO, where copyright assignment can be done by non-signed documents. Fred, who lives in FOO, sends me an email with some code and a statement that he assigned the

Re: libkrb53 - odd license term

2004-06-04 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 05:24:31PM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: I'm not saying the originating region matters; It does somewhat when trying to figure out what a clause is intended to mean. If we saw something like that in a US-based licensor's license, we can be pretty sure it isn't

Re: libkrb53 - odd license term

2004-06-04 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-06-04 22:36:57 +0100 Glenn Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this case, we're probably best off asking for a clarification from the author. (I don't even use Kerberos, so I'm not up to doing that.) This needless work must be done to make you happy; you are not willing to do this

Re: libkrb53 - odd license term

2004-06-04 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Fri, Jun 04, 2004 at 11:59:14PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: This needless work must be done to make you happy; you are not willing to do this work? This has nothing to do with making me happy. I only raised the issue; it's up to the list to determine if there's a problem. Sorry, but I'm not