Re: LCC and blobs

2004-12-19 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 19, Brian Thomas Sniffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No: it's reporting that the card did activate correctly, but it's not the driver's fault. The driver is complete and does not lack anything needed to operate the device. ...except the firmware? No: the driver does not uses the

Re: LCC and blobs

2004-12-19 Thread Raul Miller
No: it's reporting that the card did activate correctly, but it's not the driver's fault. The driver is complete and does not lack anything needed to operate the device. On Dec 19, Brian Thomas Sniffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...except the firmware? On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at

Re: LCC and blobs

2004-12-19 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: On Dec 19, Brian Thomas Sniffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No: it's reporting that the card did activate correctly, but it's not the driver's fault. The driver is complete and does not lack anything needed to operate the device. ...except the

Re: Copyleft font licensing

2004-12-19 Thread Claus Färber
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb/wrote: * Raul Miller: I don't see anything in the GPL which requires source for things which have been left out of the program being required. The subsetted font is not the preferred form of doing modifications to the font. You don't distribute the

IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-19 Thread Justin Pryzby
Hello, As you may recall, I am (unofficially) maintaining the IRAF data analysis package. IRAF includes NCAR from UCAR (.. Atmospheric Research). It was previously decided [1] that the license from NCAR was very much not DFSG-free. However, the NCAR routines are now available under the GPL. I

Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-19 Thread Jan Minar
Hi. I've been referred to xdebug on #postgresql @ freenode, but I will try to avoid it because: (1) It's not in Debian (2) The license is non-free Although the license is non-free as in annoying more then in philosophical, (3) It's not even in the Debian's non-free section AFAICT, the only

Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-19 Thread Justin Pryzby
By the way, I'm not subscribed, please Cc: me. What kind of license is associated with code produced by Yacc? Upstream IRAF apparently has a UNIX source license and uses a modified yacc to produce two of the files. The source includes a README: This directory contains the source for

Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-19 Thread Derick Rethans
L.S., On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, Jan Minar wrote: AFAICT, the only non-free section is: quote href=http://www.xdebug.org/license.php; 4. Products derived from this software may not be called Xdebug, nor may Xdebug appear in their name, without prior written permission from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-19 Thread Justin Pryzby
This is probably hotly debated, but how do math-algorthm copyrights work? There are lots of these: == ./iraf/math/llsq/original_f/qrbd.f == c subroutine qrbd (ipass,q,e,nn,v,mdv,nrv,c,mdc,ncc) c c.l.lawson and r.j.hanson, jet propulsion laboratory, 1973 jun 12 c to appear in 'solving

Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-19 Thread Måns Rullgård
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 03:45:40PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote: This is probably hotly debated, but how do math-algorthm copyrights work? Articles about mathematics, and specific expressions of algorithms, are copyrightable, but the concepts aren't. In

Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-19 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 11:29:47PM +0100, Måns Rullgård wrote: And this is probably the reason we have thousands of (probably invalid) software patents instead. Copyright law is only a minor part of that issue. -- Raul

Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-19 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Jan Minar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041219 20:04]: AFAICT, the only non-free section is: quote href=http://www.xdebug.org/license.php; 4. Products derived from this software may not be called Xdebug, nor may Xdebug appear in their name, without prior written permission from [EMAIL

Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-19 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Alexander Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! * Jan Minar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041219 20:04]: AFAICT, the only non-free section is: quote href=http://www.xdebug.org/license.php; 4. Products derived from this software may not be called Xdebug, nor may Xdebug appear in their name, without

Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-19 Thread Jan Minar
On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 11:38:16PM +0100, Alexander Schmehl wrote: * Jan Minar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041219 20:04]: AFAICT, the only non-free section is: quote href=http://www.xdebug.org/license.php; 4. Products derived from this software may not be called Xdebug, nor may Xdebug appear

Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-19 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 08:27:31PM -0500, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: Excluding a singleton name is fine. I'd even go so far as to say any excluding any countable set is fine. Excluding an uncountable class of names is not. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/06/msg00023.html for a

Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-19 Thread Josh Triplett
Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: Alexander Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Jan Minar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041219 20:04]: AFAICT, the only non-free section is: quote href=http://www.xdebug.org/license.php; 4. Products derived from this software may not be called Xdebug, nor may Xdebug appear in

Re: IRAF component relicensed

2004-12-19 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 08:59:06PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: Justin Pryzby wrote: What kind of license is associated with code produced by Yacc? Presuming this modified yacc isn't trivially replaceable with a Free yacc, this would prevent these packages from being uploadable to main. I