Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-09-26 Thread MJ Ray
Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The standard replacement for this problem is something along the lines of: The author(s) of this script expressly place it in the public domain. In jurisdictions where this is not legally possible, the author(s) place no restrictions on this script's

Re: CC's responses to v3draft comments

2006-09-26 Thread MJ Ray
Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have no documentation on how parallel distribution is absolutely necessary to satisfy the DFSG, nor do we have much of a mechanism short of a GR to determine if this is the consensus of Debian as a whole. We have documentation, but not a clear

Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 9/26/06, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The standard replacement for this problem is something along the lines of: The author(s) of this script expressly place it in the public domain. In jurisdictions where this is not legally possible, the

Re: public domain, take ?$B!g

2006-09-26 Thread Markus Laire
On 9/26/06, Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/26/06, MJ Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The standard replacement for this problem is something along the lines of: The author(s) of this script expressly place it in the public domain. In

Re: CC's responses to v3draft comments

2006-09-26 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Tue, 2006-26-09 at 09:42 +0100, MJ Ray wrote: So, CC's leadership suggests that the workgroup's presented view is not debian's view, which effectively kills the workgroup because its lead starts arguing CC's point in public. What point is that? You're simply wrong on this, and if you go

Re: CC's responses to v3draft comments

2006-09-26 Thread MJ Ray
Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2006-26-09 at 09:42 +0100, MJ Ray wrote: So, CC's leadership suggests that the workgroup's presented view is not debian's view, which effectively kills the workgroup because its lead starts arguing CC's point in public. What point is that?

Re: Creative Commons 3.0 Public draft -- news and questions

2006-09-26 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Sun, 2006-24-09 at 11:47 -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: If they wanted to prevent license complication why didn't they base CC3.0 on CC-Scotland's plain and simple English that already allows parallel distribution, rather than the CC2.5-generic that IIRC doesn't? 'Cause they're not

Re: Yahoo! DomainKeys license

2006-09-26 Thread Magnus Holmgren
OK, another stab at this beast! I've been in contact with Mark Delany, the Yahoo! engineer that wrote the draft and administrates the DomainKeys SourceForge project. HINAL though, AFAIK. On Saturday 17 June 2006 19:41, Joe Smith took the opportunity to say: On 6/17/06, Magnus Holmgren [EMAIL

Re: Creative Commons 3.0 Public draft -- news and questions

2006-09-26 Thread MJ Ray
Evan Prodromou [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you talking about this license? http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/scotland/legalcode As far as I know, yes. It doesn't seem to be a shining example of simplicity to me. Here's the relevant section from CC Scotland: 2.2 However, this

Re: CC's responses to v3draft comments

2006-09-26 Thread Nic Suzor
Evan Prodromou [Tue Sep 26, 2006 at 08:03:28AM -0400]: Most importantly, who cares? Whether or not there's a conspiracy, the same task is needed: to make the case to the public, on cc-licenses and elsewhere, that rigid anti-DRM clauses inhibit freedom and and that parallel distribution at a

Re: CC's responses to v3draft comments

2006-09-26 Thread Evan Prodromou
On Wed, 2006-27-09 at 09:30 +1000, Nic Suzor wrote: One thing that I am getting from Mia's argument is that CC is having difficulty actually identifying people who would benefit from a parallel distribution clause. She has stated that she is not aware of a substantial segment of developers who

Re: License review request: LinuxMagic FSCL

2006-09-26 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 10:04:28PM -0700, Ryan Finnie wrote: Greetings, I responded to an RFP[0] for packaging magic-smtpd[1], and need some help on the legal side. I see 3 issues here: 1. The license[2], also included below, has not been reviewed by the OSI, and is not used in any