Re: Java3D license incompatible with DFSG?

2012-09-16 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012, Steve Langasek wrote: * You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or * intended for use in the design, construction, operation or * maintenance of any nuclear facility. This is a standard "No warranty" clause wrt nuclear facilities in the US. It is not a r

Re: Bug#687693: ca-certificates: Cacert License is missing

2012-09-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:35:09PM -0500, Raphael Geissert a écrit : > Hi everyone, > > mejiko: thanks for pointing it out, I'm forwarding your report to our > debian-legal mailing list to seek their opinion. > > On Saturday 15 September 2012 03:15:10 mejiko wrote: > [...] > > ca-certificates pa

Re: New package algol68toc: terms of the copyright.

2012-09-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 01:25:21PM +0100, Steve McIntyre a écrit : > Chris wrote: > > > >I think this clause in the license absolutely fails the dissident test > > Please point to the DFSG section that mentions the "dissident test". Hi Steve, I think that the "dissident test" and others are indi

Re: Java3D license incompatible with DFSG?

2012-09-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 12:39:23PM -0600, Eric Smith wrote: > I quoted from the Sun license on Java3D: > >* You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or > >* intended for use in the design, construction, operation or > >* maintenance of any nuclear facility. > Steve Langasek wrot

Re: New package algol68toc: terms of the copyright.

2012-09-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
Francesco Poli wrote: > >Please let's try and avoid running in circles... *rotfl* -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "We're the technical experts. We were hired so that management could ignore our recommendations and tell us how to do our jobs."

Re: Java3D license incompatible with DFSG?

2012-09-16 Thread Ben Finney
Eric Smith writes: > Ben Finney wrote: > > But it's also plausible that the author of that statement is > > referring to a license *from government* specific to design, > > construction, operation or maintenance of nuclear facilities, and > > nothing to do with copyright: the government does not

Re: New package algol68toc: terms of the copyright.

2012-09-16 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:25:21 +0100 Steve McIntyre wrote: [...] > Please point to the DFSG section that mentions the "dissident test". This has been asked a number of times on debian-legal and has already been answered: https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/09/msg00215.html https://lists.debi

Re: New package algol68toc: terms of the copyright.

2012-09-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
Chris wrote: >On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 09:44:17AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: >> >>> INAL, so someone feel free to call me wrong. Comments inline. >> >> I'll call me wrong: >> >> 09:31 < Ganneff> svuorela: name the/a organisation, not y

Re: Bug#687693: ca-certificates: Cacert License is missing

2012-09-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Raphael Geissert: > TL;RD; RDL looks non-free, Philipp Dunkel from CAcert says Debian is fine (to > distribute) because of the disclaimer re the certificates included in ca- > certificates, Fedora says it is non-free. > > What do the others think about it? If we take CA certificate license sta

Re: Bug#687693: ca-certificates: Cacert License is missing

2012-09-16 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:35:09 -0500 Raphael Geissert wrote: > Hi everyone, Hello Raphael, > > mejiko: thanks for pointing it out, I'm forwarding your report to our > debian-legal mailing list to seek their opinion. Thanks for asking. Please note that you may receive multiple and possibly diff

Re: Java3D license incompatible with DFSG?

2012-09-16 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 2:58 AM, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Eric Smith [120915 20:38]: >> I quoted from the Sun license on Java3D: >> >* You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or >> >* intended for use in the design, construction, operation or >> >* maintenance of any nucle

Re: Java3D license incompatible with DFSG?

2012-09-16 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Eric Smith [120915 20:38]: > I quoted from the Sun license on Java3D: > >* You acknowledge that this software is not designed, licensed or > >* intended for use in the design, construction, operation or > >* maintenance of any nuclear facility. > Steve Langasek wrote: > >This is a standard "No w