Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-22 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Tue, Dec 21, 2004 at 12:15:50AM +0100, Derick Rethans wrote: This clause is perfectly acceptable as a part of the Apache 1.1 license. As the Apache 1.1 license is OSI certified, and has certainly been used by software distributed as a part

Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-21 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Josh Triplett wrote: I am totally fine if people put it in distributions as php4-xdebug. AFAIK freebsd's ports already have this, and so will Mandrake in the forseeable feature. It would be silly of me to prohibit this, and this is what IMO the license never intended

Re: [xdebug-general] Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-21 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Josh Triplett wrote: This is much broader. For example, I cannot write a derivative called Brian's Xdebug or Xdebug manual or even A third-party manual for Xdebug. The manual is no problem, that's not a derived product. It could very well be a derivative; a manual

Re: [xdebug-general] Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-21 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Michael K. Edwards wrote: The trouble, I think, is that derived product has a legal meaning (in the context of copyright) contrary to your common-sense interpretation. Anything other than an exact copy of the source code you distribute (or, if you distribute binaries,

Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-20 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Jan Minar wrote: On Sun, Dec 19, 2004 at 09:06:45PM +0100, Derick Rethans wrote: On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, Jan Minar wrote: From the PHP license (http://www.php.net/license/3_0.txt): 4. Products derived from this software may not be called PHP, nor may PHP appear

Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-20 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, Josh Triplett wrote: Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: Alexander Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Jan Minar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [041219 20:04]: AFAICT, the only non-free section is: quote href=http://www.xdebug.org/license.php; 4. Products derived from this software may

Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-20 Thread Derick Rethans
On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: 4. Integrity of The Author's Source Code [..] The license may require derived works to carry a different name or version number from the original software. [..] = I didn't looked at the rest of the license, but I don't think this

Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-20 Thread Derick Rethans
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Nathanael Nerode wrote: Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that's the case, why didn't you rename the Apache and PHP packages? If you want to mangle Xdebug's name in a package name, so should it be done for PHP and Apache, as it's the same license. Absolutely

Re: Is the xdebug's non-free license necessary?

2004-12-19 Thread Derick Rethans
L.S., On Sun, 19 Dec 2004, Jan Minar wrote: AFAICT, the only non-free section is: quote href=http://www.xdebug.org/license.php; 4. Products derived from this software may not be called Xdebug, nor may Xdebug appear in their name, without prior written permission from [EMAIL PROTECTED]