Re: [License-discuss] [Fedora-legal-list] Re: The license of OpenMotif (Open Group Public License)

2018-12-18 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Tom Callaway dixit: >On 10/26/2018 11:32 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: >> So if it's not as free everywhere as it would be in Debian, >> it's not free enough for Debian. > >It has never happened that I know of, but if there were a copyright >license which was somehow okay only in Fedora (but not for

Re: W3C FSA (Final Specification Agreement)

2018-04-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi Ben >So it's essential to know what is the specific *grant of license* from >the copyright holder to recipients of the work. I posted you the specific grant in my previous eMail, did you not see it? >>>Where is the text granting specific license in that work? >> >> >> >>So, as I said, pretty

Re: W3C FSA (Final Specification Agreement)

2018-04-11 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi Ben, >> Please keep me in Cc as I’m not subscribed to the list. > >Done, but if you want to continue this discussion please do subscribe so >you don't miss messages. meh. I can always check the web archives if someone misses this. >> I don’t think this has been covered yet, and, while I

W3C FSA (Final Specification Agreement)

2018-04-11 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi, I don’t think this has been covered yet, and, while I don’t have immediate need for this, it awoke my curiosity. From https://github.com/w3c/musicxml/issues/114 I see that the latest version of the MusicXML standard is published under the W3C FSA: “The FSA Deed is available at:

Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-31 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ángel González dixit: On 30/07/14 22:00, Stas Malyshev wrote: You could not distribute other derived products bearing the name of PHP - but distributing PHP itself is fine, since it's not a product derived from PHP but the actual PHP. If Debian OTOH decides to make their own The actual PHP

Re: [PECL-DEV] Re: Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-31 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Ángel González dixit: Please remember that we are just talking about changes that Debian itself may want to perform (so it doesn't require a renaming which would be bad both for PHP and Debian users). Right, but Debian probably (though it’s up to Ondřej Surý, the maintainer; there is no

Re: Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-30 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Pierre Joye wrote: As Rasmus, and I, said numerous times, the PHP License is a perfectly valid choice as long as the software are distributed under *.php.net. This reading clearly fails DFSG#3 and OSD#3 at the very least, and makes *all* software using the PHP Licence non-free, because

Re: [PHP-QA] Debian and the PHP license

2014-07-30 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Lucas Nussbaum wrote: However, based on my own (possibly limited) understanding of the issue[1], this is case of a license (the PHP License) with sub-optimal wording that is misused by third parties, as it was initially designed for PHP itself, and is used for random software written in PHP.

trademark vs. renamed derivates

2014-07-21 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi everyone, is there any example language for something like the following around already, which I could reuse? “This software Y is based on the software X, which was written by the company Z; both X and Z are trademarks, but Y is not, nor do we intend to use these trademarks (which is why we

Re: Ghostscript licensing changed to AGPL

2014-05-08 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 7 May 2014, Bálint Réczey wrote: 2014-05-07 14:37 GMT+02:00 Thorsten Glaser t...@debian.org: Which you may want to do, in order to patch a security issue you just found, locally, before filing it upstream. In my interpretation in this case I would have some reasonable time

Re: Creative Commons 4.0 licenses published

2013-11-28 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013, Paul Wise wrote: Mike Linksvayer suggests upgrading to CC0 instead: This is not a good idea: CC0 is up for a rework too, they just decided to get CC 4.0 out of the door first, and the current CC0 version is *explicitly* discouraged for use with software. (Also, Public

Re: [License-review] For Approval: Scripting Free Software License, Version 1.3.5 (S-FSL v1.3.5)

2013-11-07 Thread Thorsten Glaser
FWIW, the GMane thread view for the Debian bug on this is: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general/1099104 The bugreport is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=728716 although I’d have put it into the ITP bug #721447 instead. Elmar Stellnberger dixit: What

Re: [License-review] For Approval: Scripting Free Software License, Version 1.3.5 (S-FSL v1.3.5)

2013-11-07 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Elmar Stellnberger dixit: Yes, they are and the license does currently not give any restriction about them Except for forbidding them all, because patches must be distributed separately, and distributing patched versions is forbidden. However it is not an OSD criterium Independent on

Re: Bug#728716: RFS: xchroot/2.3.2-9 [ITP] -- Hi Debian!

2013-11-06 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Mon, 4 Nov 2013, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: This license will be considered non-free in Debian. ACK. We have a thread about this on the OSI mailing list as well: http://projects.opensource.org/pipermail/license-review/2013-November/thread.html starting at

Re: incompatible licenses in the debian directory

2013-09-27 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Paul Tagliamonte paultag at debian.org writes: So, the way *I* see this is so long as the GPL code isn't being put into a combined work with anything (e.g. GPL'd patches), it *should* be OK. Unfortunately, GPLv3 considers build scripts (thus, d/rules plus the input for the declarative dh*

Re: incompatible licenses in the debian directory

2013-09-27 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Paul Tagliamonte dixit: This is a GPL restriction. Since the upstream code isn't GPL, why are you using a GPL argument about build scripts? -- in theory this would apply to build scripts for the GPLv3'd debian/* files, but there are none that Hm unsure. It really depends on how far you

Re: data and software licence incompatabilities?

2013-09-04 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Clark C. Evans cce at clarkevans.com writes: Francesco Poli has been a longtime subscriber to the debian-legal mailing list. He has quite extensive knowledge about licensing, and is often the first person to answer inquiries about new licenses sent to the list. Not only that, but he

Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-09-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Paul Wise pabs at debian.org writes: Likewise. I don't appreciate the disrespectful tone some folks have displayed in this and other recent threads. I would like to remind Oh great, and who’s going to deal with trolls then? You’re not holding Francesco to them, I’m noticing. I’ve heard that

[OT] Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-09-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
MJ Ray mjr at phonecoop.coop writes: Well, we hear things like that every time someone doesn't agree about In this case I talked with other DDs on IRC. whether software follows the DFSG or not, yet the number of subscribers seems to be generally increasing towards some asymptote

Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-09-01 Thread Thorsten Glaser
MJ Ray writes: Look, […] My reply was specifically to this newsgroup, a long-needed “request” to shut up, and explicitly *not* soliciting *your* personal(!) opinion on those licences either. I do not require the “added value”, and this newsgroup is spammed enough by the likes of you two.

Re: AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-08-29 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Francesco Poli invernomuto at paranoici.org writes: In the recent discussions, the main concerns were about the switch of a Yes, I know, but the discussion was raised, so I wanted to make sure. So, is AGPLv3 still acceptable for main? For the record, I personally disagree with their

AGPL request for summary of recent discussion

2013-08-27 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi, there were several threads around AGPL recently, mostly re-stirred due to Horracle using AGPLv3 for Berkeley DB. I was unable to follow them totally and remember there being raised at least two points: • The inability to provide security support for AGPL software (embargoed fixes)/ • The