Re: Bug#223961: libdvdread3: makes download of possibly illegal libdvdcss too easy

2003-12-20 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:42:43AM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: ... However if you copy copy-protected CD foo with program bar at home you won't be persecuted by criminal law, but the manufacturar might start private action against you, claiming compensation. Now try to apply the latter on

Re: Bug#223961: libdvdread3: makes download of possibly illegal libdvdcss too easy

2003-12-18 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 09:42:43AM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: However if you copy copy-protected CD foo with program bar at home you won't be persecuted by criminal law, but the manufacturar might start private action against you, claiming compensation. In the US, copyright violation is now

Re: Bug#223961: libdvdread3: makes download of possibly illegal libdvdcss too easy

2003-12-16 Thread Sergey Spiridonov
Adrian Bunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Many DVDs use css. To play these, a special library is needed to read them, libdvdcss. Debian cannot distribute this library It's at least a grey area, and most likely in more countries than just Germany. [...] Note that I'm not happy with the

Re: Bug#223961: libdvdread3: makes download of possibly illegal libdvdcss too easy

2003-12-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Sergey Spiridonov wrote: General question: is it true, that if distribution of the package XXX is illegal in the country YYY, but legal in ZZZ, Debian will not include XXX? Shouldn't it be better (in theory), that if package XXX will be excluded from servers in country

Re: Bug#223961: libdvdread3: makes download of possibly illegal libdvdcss too easy

2003-12-16 Thread Måns Rullgård
Andreas Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ignorance of the law is no excuse. If I choose to use an MP3 encoder in this country without paying Frauenhofer and Thomson exorbitant fees, I'm taking that risk. Any reasonable user should already know that libdvdcss is dangerous, and if one doesn't

Re: Bug#223961: libdvdread3: makes download of possibly illegal libdvdcss too easy

2003-12-16 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:37:38PM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 06:50:10PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:16:11PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: Package: libdvdread3 Version: 0.9.4-3 Severity: critical [...] It

Re: Bug#223961: libdvdread3: makes download of possibly illegal libdvdcss too easy

2003-12-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:16:11PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: Package: libdvdread3 Version: 0.9.4-3 Severity: critical The debconf note says: -- snip -- Many DVDs use css. To play these, a special library is needed to read them, libdvdcss. Debian

Re: Bug#223961: libdvdread3: makes download of possibly illegal libdvdcss too easy

2003-12-15 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 06:50:10PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:16:11PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: Package: libdvdread3 Version: 0.9.4-3 Severity: critical This is not a critical bug. This is a serious bug. The definition of a critical bug

Re: Bug#223961: libdvdread3: makes download of possibly illegal libdvdcss too easy

2003-12-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 11:37:38PM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 06:50:10PM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 11:16:11PM +0100, Andreas Metzler wrote: Adrian Bunk wrote: Package: libdvdread3 Version: 0.9.4-3 Severity: critical This is