Re: Is the APSL 2.0 DFSG-compliant?

2022-08-04 Thread Ben Westover
Hello, On 8/4/22 8:30 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > What would have changed since the 2004 review of APSL 2.0? Here's a quote from that 2020 challenge of the APSL-1.2 being considered non-free in 2001: > For the APSL-1.2, it seems that the only clause that makes the > license non-DFSG-compliant is

Re: Is the APSL 2.0 DFSG-compliant?

2022-08-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, 2022-08-04 at 19:09 -0400, Ben Westover wrote: > Those are based on conversations that are almost a decade old, and some > things have changed since then. I just wanted a re-review of the license > in 2022 to see if the complaints from before still hold up today. What would have

Re: Is the APSL 2.0 DFSG-compliant?

2022-08-04 Thread Ben Westover
Hello Mihai, On 8/4/22 02:03, Mihai Moldovan wrote: According to https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#Apple_Public_Source_License_.28APSL.29 , which also lists discussions/reasoning for version 1.0 (which is considered non-free) and your desired version 2.0, it is considered free, but

Re: Is the APSL 2.0 DFSG-compliant?

2022-08-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, 2022-08-04 at 19:15 -0400, Ben Westover wrote: > Interesting, the APSL 2.0 is seen in some relatively important > packages like Chromium and QtWebEngine. I wouldn't put any weight on the presence of the APSL 2.0 license text in the archive, probably it got into Debian in those packages

Re: Is the APSL 2.0 DFSG-compliant?

2022-08-04 Thread Ben Westover
Hi Walter, On August 5, 2022 1:03:18 AM EDT, Walter Landry wrote: >As someone who participated in that original exchange in 2004, APSL 2.0 >still looks impossible to follow. If Debian suddenly goes off-line, >Debian is not in compliance with the license. How exactly does Debian "go off-line",

Re: Is the APSL 2.0 DFSG-compliant?

2022-08-04 Thread Walter Landry
Ben Westover writes: > On August 5, 2022 1:03:18 AM EDT, Walter Landry wrote: >>As someone who participated in that original exchange in 2004, APSL 2.0 >>still looks impossible to follow. If Debian suddenly goes off-line, >>Debian is not in compliance with the license. > > How exactly does

Re: Is the APSL 2.0 DFSG-compliant?

2022-08-04 Thread Walter Landry
Ben Westover writes: > Hello, > > On 8/4/22 8:30 PM, Paul Wise wrote: >> What would have changed since the 2004 review of APSL 2.0? > > Here's a quote from that 2020 challenge of the APSL-1.2 being considered > non-free in 2001: > >> For the APSL-1.2, it seems that the only clause that makes

Re: Is the APSL 2.0 DFSG-compliant?

2022-08-04 Thread Ben Westover
Hello Paul, On 8/4/22 02:32, Paul Wise wrote: The wiki describes it as being non-free and cites two threads: https://wiki.debian.org/DFSGLicenses#Apple_Public_Source_License_.28APSL.29 https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/20010928105424z@physics.utah.edu

Re: Is the APSL 2.0 DFSG-compliant?

2022-08-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, 2022-08-03 at 23:00 -0400, Ben Westover wrote: > I was wondering if the Apple Public Source License (version 2.0) > complies with the DFSG. The Free Software Foundation considers it to be > a free software license (https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/apsl.en.html), > but I just wanted to make

Re: Is the APSL 2.0 DFSG-compliant?

2022-08-04 Thread Mihai Moldovan
* On 8/4/22 05:00, Ben Westover wrote: > I was wondering if the Apple Public Source License (version 2.0) > complies with the DFSG. The Free Software Foundation considers it to be > a free software license (https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/apsl.en.html), > but I just wanted to make sure it's