DFSG-free license?

2006-07-28 Thread Brian Elliott Finley
I'm working on packaging a some software that uses this license. Is this an acceptable license from a debian perspective? Thanks, -Brian COPYRIGHT AND LICENCE Copyright (c) 2005-2006 University of Illinois Board of Trustees All rights reserved. Developed by: Campus Information

Re: BCFG Public License

2006-07-28 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] The BCFG public license (below) seems pretty much like a standard BSD + advertising clause license. I can't quite seem to remember what the current policy on that sort of license is. We accept them, but grudgingly. 7. LICENSEE AGREES THAT THE EXPORT

Re: BCFG Public License

2006-07-28 Thread Matthew Garrett
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 7. LICENSEE AGREES THAT THE EXPORT OF GOODS AND/OR TECHNICAL DATA FROM THE UNITED STATES MAY REQUIRE SOME FORM OF EXPORT CONTROL LICENSE FROM THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND THAT FAILURE TO OBTAIN SUCH EXPORT CONTROL LICENSE MAY RESULT IN CRIMINAL

Re: DFSG-free license?

2006-07-28 Thread Matthew Garrett
Brian Elliott Finley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on packaging a some software that uses this license. Is this an acceptable license from a debian perspective? Looks like 3-clause BSD, which is absolutely fine. -- Matthew Garrett | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: New GPLv3 and LGPLv3 discussion drafts available

2006-07-28 Thread Joe Smith
Nathanael Nerode [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Just a heads-up. http://gplv3.fsf.org/ There's a lot of complicated wording changes from the first draft of the GPL v.3. (They all look like improvements to me, but there's a lot to digest.) And there's a new draft

Re: BCFG Public License

2006-07-28 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 7. LICENSEE AGREES THAT THE EXPORT OF GOODS AND/OR TECHNICAL DATA FROM THE UNITED STATES MAY REQUIRE SOME FORM OF EXPORT CONTROL LICENSE FROM THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND THAT FAILURE TO OBTAIN SUCH EXPORT

Re: BCFG Public License

2006-07-28 Thread Robinson Tryon
On 7/28/06, Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scripsit Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 7. LICENSEE AGREES THAT THE EXPORT OF GOODS AND/OR TECHNICAL DATA FROM THE UNITED STATES MAY REQUIRE SOME FORM OF EXPORT CONTROL LICENSE FROM THE

Re: Please move DAVDSI thread to public lists

2006-07-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 28 juillet 2006 à 23:36 +0200, Pierre Habouzit a écrit : Le ven 28 juillet 2006 23:26, Josselin Mouette a écrit : Le vendredi 28 juillet 2006 à 22:40 +0200, Pierre Habouzit a écrit : It would be interesting to start a formal enquiry if this applies to Bittorrent. it is

Re: New GPLv3 and LGPLv3 discussion drafts available

2006-07-28 Thread Andrew Donnellan
versions to play those DVDs. If the work communicates with an online service, it must be possible for modified versions to communicate with the same online service in the same way such that the service cannot distinguish.) A key need not be included in cases where use of the This is bad for

Re: New GPLv3 and LGPLv3 discussion drafts available

2006-07-28 Thread Joe Smith
Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] versions to play those DVDs. If the work communicates with an online service, it must be possible for modified versions to communicate with the same online service in the same way such that the service cannot

Re: New GPLv3 and LGPLv3 discussion drafts available

2006-07-28 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 7/29/06, Joe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] versions to play those DVDs. If the work communicates with an online service, it must be possible for modified versions to communicate with the same online service in the

Re: BCFG Public License

2006-07-28 Thread Matthew Garrett
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scripsit Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] No, it means that the licensee is obliged to agree that a fact may be true. And if that fact is not agreeable to me, I may not copy the software? If you're unwilling to agree to truth statements, then yes,

Re: BCFG Public License

2006-07-28 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Henning Makholm said: Scripsit Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 7. LICENSEE AGREES THAT THE EXPORT OF GOODS AND/OR TECHNICAL DATA FROM THE UNITED STATES MAY REQUIRE SOME FORM OF EXPORT CONTROL LICENSE FROM THE

Re: BCFG Public License

2006-07-28 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if that fact is not agreeable to me, I may not copy the software? If you're unwilling to agree to truth statements, then yes, I'm entirely happy with you not being permitted to copy the software. It

Re: New GPLv3 and LGPLv3 discussion drafts available

2006-07-28 Thread Joe Smith
Andrew Donnellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Even moving all logic to the server side can't stop it. Online games especially need to be able to distinguish the 'official' client from a modified one. Even if all logic is on the server side, the client still

Re: New GPLv3 and LGPLv3 discussion drafts available

2006-07-28 Thread Andrew Donnellan
On 7/29/06, Joe Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The FSF is really not concerned about online games. That is because there is no way to block draconian DRM restrictions while aproviding a means to autheniticate an official game client. They really are the same problem. The issue is how the GPLv3