Re: Referring to upstream copyright statement from debian/copyright

2007-11-20 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 12:58:10PM -0800, Zack Weinberg wrote: > or should I be pasting the entire text of AUTHORS into > debian/copyright? Yes you should. The promise we make in Policy is that the copyright and licensing status of the package is provided in the debian/copyright file, and the on

Is this translation in the Public Domain?

2007-11-20 Thread Mohammad Derakhshani
Hi all, I am involved in the packaging of an Urdu translation of Qur'an for Zekr . This Urdu translation is made by Ahmed Rida Khan. Although the author died in 1921, I am not sure if the translation is in the Pu

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-20 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 12:29:38 -0800 Sean Kellogg wrote: [...] > Oy... this doesn't seem like it's going anywhere good. They should > have just written a license that says "you must give back your > changes, even if you don't distribute" and just called it good... Like they did with GFDL's Inva

Referring to upstream copyright statement from debian/copyright

2007-11-20 Thread Zack Weinberg
I have a closely related question to the one posed in the thread started at http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/11/msg00214.html My package has a fairly complicated constellation of copyright holders and licenses, and upstream has been helpful and provided a comprehensive statement in their

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-20 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Tuesday 20 November 2007 10:50:32 am John Halton wrote: > On 20/11/2007, Sean Kellogg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As a > > user of a website running the stack I'm really interacting with > > two things... the browser which presents all this pretty buttons > > and links... and the apache ser

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-20 Thread John Halton
On 20/11/2007, Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are also examples where a company did not do anything until they > were served with legal papers. If you are only going to resort to > community pressure, then you might as well just make it a non-binding > request rather than a legal

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-20 Thread Walter Landry
John Halton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I've said before, I have some hesitations about the AGPL and its > possible consequences. However, we shouldn't underestimate the effects > of community pressure to help counteract the potential problems: if > the AGPL is (ab)used in an inappropriate way

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-20 Thread John Halton
On 20/11/2007, Sean Kellogg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As a > user of a website running the stack I'm really interacting with two > things... the browser which presents all this pretty buttons and > links... and the apache server by means of HTTP requests. It's the > server which then goes and

Re: GPLv3 compatible with OpenSSL?

2007-11-20 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 16:58:28 +0100 Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 20 novembre 2007 à 12:10 +0100, Matej Vela a écrit : > > Is GPLv3 compatible with the OpenSSL license? > > I don't think so. Agreed. And the FSF seems to agree, as well. They consider the OpenSSL license as incompatible with

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-20 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 08:01:09 -0600 Iain Nicol wrote: [meaning of "interaction over a network"] > It looks like the FSF want this interpreted as broadly as possible. Thanks for the pointer. On the other hand, I've found the following GPLv3 FAQ[1]: | In AGPLv3, what counts as interacting with

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-20 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Tuesday 20 November 2007 01:07:14 am John Halton wrote: > So to use an example that I'm most familiar with, if you have a > Wordpress installation running on top of a LAMP stack then neither > Linux, Apache, MySQL nor PHP is itself capable of providing access > to its source for remote users. Ea

Re: GPLv3 compatible with OpenSSL?

2007-11-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 20 novembre 2007 à 12:10 +0100, Matej Vela a écrit : > Is GPLv3 compatible with the OpenSSL license? I don't think so. > 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this >software must display the following acknowledgment: >"This product includes softwa

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-20 Thread John Halton
On 20/11/2007, Iain Nicol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One thing we did not change is the phrase "interacting with [the > > software] remotely through a computer network." Many commenters > > expressed concern that this would include not only traditional GUIs > > that users manipulate for web-bas

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-20 Thread Iain Nicol
Hi, On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:40:09 +0100, John Halton wrote: > Do you (or anyone else) happen to know if the FSF has given any guidance > on what they regard as "interaction over a network"? This is an issue > that came up in the previous thread. It looks like the FSF want this interpreted as broad

GPLv3 compatible with OpenSSL?

2007-11-20 Thread Matej Vela
Hi, Is GPLv3 compatible with the OpenSSL license? According to Wikipedia [1], the OpenSSL license clauses that were problematic for GPLv2... 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software must display the following acknowledgment: "This product include

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-20 Thread John Halton
On 20/11/2007, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What if the application on top of the stack is just a thin broker layer > and any useful functionality is hidden in a backend that never > *directly* interacts with public users "remotely through a computer > network"? Apologies for "tripl