On 11/03/2014, Joseph Neal vlvtel...@speakeasy.net wrote:
I hate to stir up shit, but that's exactly what I'm doing.
If you hate to do it, then please don't do it.
Several people have already objected but I hope there will be such a
resounding rejection that nobody considers submitting
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W dniu 11.03.2014 15:52, Sam Kuper pisze:
On 11/03/2014, Joseph Neal vlvtel...@speakeasy.net wrote:
I hate to stir up shit, but that's exactly what I'm doing.
If you hate to do it, then please don't do it.
Several people have already objected
2014-03-11 17:39 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Jończyk mat.jonc...@o2.pl:
There is a danger, if the Debian project falls prey to a moral panic, that it
will self-censor to the extent of producing a chilling effect upon itself.
This is not a moral panic. A real harm is being done.
According to statistics
On 11/03/2014, Mateusz Jończyk mat.jonc...@o2.pl wrote:
W dniu 11.03.2014 15:52, Sam Kuper pisze:
On 11/03/2014, Joseph Neal vlvtel...@speakeasy.net wrote:
According to statistics [2]
One in 20 children (4.8%) have experienced contact sexual abuse. This has
probably a devastating effect on
Am 11.03.2014 17:54, schrieb Miriam Ruiz:
Right now there is no need to make any decision at all, it is
in the hands of the FTP Masters, and we as a project trust them.
As far as I am aware there is not even the need for the FTP masters to
decide because there is no Debian developer who is
Bas Wijnen writes (Unteralterbach visual novel (was: Re: Introduction)):
Summary: I've tried the game, and don't think it's suitable for Debian.
Thank you for your analysis. I appreciate your effort, and your
taking the psychological risk of exposure to something unpleasant and
disturbing.
2014-03-11 19:40 GMT+01:00 Tobias Hansen than...@debian.org:
Am 11.03.2014 17:54, schrieb Miriam Ruiz:
Right now there is no need to make any decision at all, it is
in the hands of the FTP Masters, and we as a project trust them.
As far as I am aware there is not even the need for the FTP
2014-03-11 20:26 GMT+01:00 Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk:
in Debian. That doesn't amount to censorship. People who want to
find interesting interactive fiction are probably not going to be
looking for it in our archive.
You mean that we shouldn't package any interactive
Le 11/03/2014 20:10, Sam Kuper a écrit :
My point was that if legal (in some jurisdictions) and literary
discussions of abuse are completely excluded from Debian, then an act
of censorship has been performed, which may itself be viewed as a real
- though different - harm.
No.
Deciding to not
On 11/03/2014, Thibaut Paumard thib...@debian.org wrote:
Le 11/03/2014 20:10, Sam Kuper a écrit :
My point was that if legal (in some jurisdictions) and literary
discussions of abuse are completely excluded from Debian, then an act
of censorship has been performed, which may itself be viewed
On 11/03/2014, Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au wrote:
Many people wouldn't want to touch this with a ten foot pole. The
consequences of even showing sympathy for this type of package could
well have personal consequences for some people well into the future,
here is a typical example:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 07:19:18PM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
That means that it is for the FTP team to set that policy.
AFAIAA this is the best description of the FTP team policy:
https://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html
My impression is that the type of issue currently under
On 11/03/14 22:23, Sam Kuper wrote:
On 11/03/2014, Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au wrote:
Many people wouldn't want to touch this with a ten foot pole. The
consequences of even showing sympathy for this type of package could
well have personal consequences for some people well into the
2014-03-11 22:23 GMT+01:00 Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net:
Now that this conversation has descended into farce, I'm out. I only
hope that if the issue does cease to become moot[1] and Debian decides
to reject Unteralterbach (which, to repeat, I have no opinion about)
the project will not do
I honestly believe that almost none of those of us discusing the game
has even tried it (I haven't at least) and I don't think anyone who
hasn't even tested it can have a solid opinion. As far as I
understand, we're all defining our position 2nd hand on Bas' analysis.
Let's be very, very,
2014-03-11 23:34 GMT+01:00 Jo Shields direct...@apebox.org:
I honestly believe that almost none of those of us discusing the game
has even tried it (I haven't at least) and I don't think anyone who
hasn't even tested it can have a solid opinion. As far as I
understand, we're all defining our
Jo Shields direct...@apebox.org writes:
I honestly believe that almost none of those of us discusing the game
has even tried it (I haven't at least) and I don't think anyone who
hasn't even tested it can have a solid opinion. As far as I
understand, we're all defining our position 2nd hand on
Tobias Hansen than...@debian.org writes:
Am 11.03.2014 17:54, schrieb Miriam Ruiz:
Right now there is no need to make any decision at all, it is
in the hands of the FTP Masters, and we as a project trust them.
As far as I am aware there is not even the need for the FTP masters to
decide
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