Re: CC's responses to v3draft comments

2006-09-25 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:47:37 +0100 (BST) MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > > The response is: > > | There is no record of the reasons other than the reasons stated in > > | my blog post of August 9, 2006 > > | (http://creativecommons.org/w

Re: [Fwd: Re: Problem with license of msv-xsdlib]

2006-09-25 Thread Francesco Poli
don't know... -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpyK9I1gYDKU.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Debburn-devel] License of cdrkit - GPLv2 + additional restrictions

2006-09-25 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 13:49:35 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 24 septembre 2006 à 23:32 +0200, Francesco Poli a écrit : [...] > > Here, the restriction clearly forbids creating a derivative work > > that is a drop-in replacement of the original, and thus inte

Re: [Fwd: Re: Problem with license of msv-xsdlib]

2006-09-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:31:21 +0200 (MEST) Eric Lavarde - Debian wrote: [> Francesco Poli wrote] > > Maybe another person who recommends the GPL could be useful to add > > "pressure" to adopt a DFSG-free licensing scheme... I don't know... > Neither do I, but if

Re: CC's responses to v3draft comments

2006-09-26 Thread Francesco Poli
where the licensor is the license drafter... -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 p

Re: CC's responses to v3draft comments

2006-09-28 Thread Francesco Poli
ot;I like pasta because the sky is blue." > > > They don't have source codes. Or, some different > > formats can be considered as a source (lossy > > compressed formats), but some formats cannot (DRM). > > Above, the XCF is clearly described as the source m

Re: Object Management Group redistributable files

2006-10-01 Thread Francesco Poli
;-) If upstream is persuaded to do what I described above, we could manage to reach this goal! Usual disclaimers: IANADD, IANAL. -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ . Fr

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-04 Thread Francesco Poli
tributing the sourceless GPL'd work The usual disclaimers: IANAL, IANADD. -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE

Re: Why TPM+Parallel Distribution is non-free

2006-10-07 Thread Francesco Poli
rmits this, and that the > existing wording already makes this true accross jurisdictions, but > that it should indeed be made more explicit (this is my understanding > from Mia Garlick's responses to the list commentary). This would be an improvement, but I have yet to see the new clause phrasing, before I can comment. > > As a Debian user, I am furthermore concerned that continuing to push > for a TPM+parallel distribution clause will damage the freedom of the > Debian distribution and free software / free culture in general, It cannot harm freedom. Likewise, a non-copyleft license cannot harm freedom (as long as it meets the DFSG). Allowing parallel distribution could harm copyleft, or maybe not. *Not* allowing parallel distribution could harm freedom, or maybe not. These are the points to be discussed, really. [...] > Anyway, that's my case both for accepting the CCPL3.0 w/o the parallel > distribution clause, and also for generally considering the parallel > distribution not to be required for "DFSG freedom". Thanks for > reading. Thanks for writing. -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpLf0ZCmzuTs.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Why TPM+Parallel Distribution is non-free

2006-10-09 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:45:46 -0500 Terry Hancock wrote: [...] > Francesco Poli wrote: > > Wait, wait: if the TPM are based on public key cryptography, you > > could have the necessary key for applying them, but not the key > > that's needed to pull them off. In that

Re: Non-free IETF RFC/I-Ds in source packages

2006-10-11 Thread Francesco Poli
.org/licenses/info/BSD_3Clause.html | * the GNU GPL version 2 |http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/gpl.txt | * the Expat/MIT license |http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ ..

Re: Why TPM+Parallel Distribution is non-free

2006-10-14 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 15:40:09 -0500 Terry Hancock wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 21:45:46 -0500 Terry Hancock wrote: > > > So, are you asserting that if the CCPL3.0 included an allowance to > > > distribute TPM'd files, so long as the key

Re: Non-free IETF RFC/I-Ds in source packages

2006-10-14 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 16:06:25 +0200 Simon Josefsson wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > Good job! > > Thanks, that helps me going. :) You are welcome... [...] > > These considerations lead to the following proposed rephrasing: > > &

Re: Non-free IETF RFC/I-Ds in source packages

2006-10-17 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:49:48 +0200 Simon Josefsson wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > I don't know whether I'll have enough time to do it personally. > > Let's do as follows: I see if I can modify the wiki page on Sunday; > > y

Re: CC's responses to v3draft comments

2006-10-18 Thread Francesco Poli
e authors of other comparable contributions", it would be OK, but the actual clause doesn't say this, unfortunately. -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpGu1LZDkFyy.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Kernel Firmware issue: are GPLed sourceless firmwares legal to distribute ?

2006-10-18 Thread Francesco Poli
But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpqWzSt6KAkm.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: CC's responses to v3draft comments

2006-10-19 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 13:50:04 +0100 Lewis Jardine wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > Clause 4(d) states, in part: > > > > | in the case of a Adaptation or Collection, at a minimum such > > | credit will appear, if a credit for all contributing authors >

Re: main or contrib?

2006-10-23 Thread Francesco Poli
ways do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpjjyKxljKAN.pgp Description: PGP signature

3-clause BSD with additional disclaimers

2006-10-28 Thread Francesco Poli
always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpm5671CSwy9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: non-free license review + question for ftp-master

2006-10-30 Thread Francesco Poli
ange, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgp90nd6fgC8K.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#395961: gabber: Links with GPL-incompatible licensed OpenSSL

2006-10-30 Thread Francesco Poli
] http://bugs.debian.org/395961 -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpjnKzStFCjR.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: 3-clause BSD with additional disclaimers

2006-10-30 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 01:10:49 +0800 Tim Post wrote: > On Sat, 2006-10-28 at 18:14 +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > > Hi all! :) > > > > I filed a RFP wishlist bug about a very interesting > > scientific/technical data visualizer called VisIt (see bug #395573 &

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-10-31 Thread Francesco Poli
a given grammar: bison comes to mind). > Right now there doesn't seem to be a strong opinion in the > project about that, but I expect it's a discussion that needs to be > had. IMO, this discussion desperately needs to be had. I think the right time to have it is after etch i

Re: non-free license review + question for ftp-master

2006-10-31 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:29:45 +1100 Ben Finney wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 09:16:11 +1100 Ben Finney wrote: [...] > > One thing that was not yet pointed out is that this license, besides > > the other issues, als

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-10-31 Thread Francesco Poli
_Coming to America_ ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpNLSyBsZCBw.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-10-31 Thread Francesco Poli
[1], as far as non-programmatic works and DFSG#2 are concerned. The discussion about source code of non-programmatic works is (unfortunately) still to be had. [1] see the thread that started with http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2006/10/msg00185.html -- But it is also tradition that times *

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 01:20:43 +0100 Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 12:55:45AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:59:18 +0100 Sven Luther wrote: > > > > [...] > > > Nope, because you can ship the source code and the o

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:38:34 +0100 Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: > md wrote: > > On Oct 31, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > IMHO, DFSG#2 refers to source code, as is usually defined, that is > > > to say, as in the GNU GPL v2. > > No, it does no

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 09:37:19 +0100 Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:38:34 +0100 Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: > > > But if I release a .ps file, it would be output from > > > LaTeX and so it seems reasonable to insist that the soft

Re: Is the University of Edinburgh clickwrap GPL DFSG-free?

2006-11-04 Thread Francesco Poli
-- from _Coming to America_ ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpZMr2GdM2cp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-04 Thread Francesco Poli
rred for making modifications to the work... [...] > (Not a debian developer or a lawyer. Just a user). The same holds for me: IANAL, IANADD. -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpucxqXXTi56.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-04 Thread Francesco Poli
rom _Coming to America_ ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpVpdVxxCrb5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-07 Thread Francesco Poli
eed to > provide C versions of the modifications. [...] Good: this is the kind of explanation that my previous message lacked... Again thanks for clarifying. -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpw8B4ynzCdV.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#383481: Must source code be easy to understand to fall under DFSG?

2006-11-07 Thread Francesco Poli
nd. -- from _Coming to America_ ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpf8TICqa3ZK.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: photo licenses

2006-11-08 Thread Francesco Poli
rd ways: that doesn't necessarily mean that they are right! -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgp5IddQIGIV4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: photo licenses

2006-11-09 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 9 Nov 2006 09:53:49 +0200 Yasen Pramatarov wrote: > Wed, 8 Nov 2006 22:26:42 +0100 Francesco Poli : [...] > > The issue here is making available all the necessary data for > > modifying the work in an optimal way: doing otherwise puts the > > origina

Comments on the second public CC draft

2006-11-09 Thread Francesco Poli
e avoidance of doubt, this trademark restriction does not | form part of this License. For the avoidance of doubt, this ^ | trademark restriction does not form part of the License. ^^^^^

Re: photo licenses

2006-11-10 Thread Francesco Poli
the software source. Exactly! Thanks for taking the time to read my replies and to think about them. -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key f

Strange GPL licensing: most recent

2006-11-25 Thread Francesco Poli
otcd/bootcd_2.53/bootcd.copyright [2] http://packages.debian.org/bootcd [3] see GPLv2#9 for further details -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpa8Um0lvBlQ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: rocks-n-diamonds

2006-11-28 Thread Francesco Poli
n that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpGhlBD5K15h.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: rocks-n-diamonds

2006-12-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:51:35 +0100 Amaya wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > The non-free data could be distributed in non-free, to the extent > > they are legally redistributable by Debian. Otherwise, they must be > > downloadable via script from a server that has actua

Re: [Re]distribution of disk images

2006-12-02 Thread Francesco Poli
nd always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgp8ouy9qCht2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: NetBeans ITP [was Re: CDDL]

2006-12-03 Thread Francesco Poli
also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgp3yjDk3xl7q.pgp Description: PGP signature

What does "most recent GPL" mean?

2006-12-04 Thread Francesco Poli
d you please explain? P.S.: Please note that I'm Cc:ing the debian-legal public mailing list, since the issue has been previously raised there. Could you please keep debian-legal in Cc: in your reply? Thanks. -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend

Re: Strange GPL licensing: most recent

2006-12-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 13:14:44 -0800 Josh Triplett wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > Should I ask <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to provide an authoritative answer > > about this situation? > > I think that in this case, the meaning of the statement depends on the > auth

Re: What does "most recent GPL" mean?

2006-12-05 Thread Francesco Poli
e I Cc:ed debian-legal, just to notify that the question has been asked to the FSF and that a public response from them was desired. Hope that explains. -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ ..

Re: Open Font License 1.1review2 - comments?

2006-12-06 Thread Francesco Poli
unambiguous meaning. -- But it is also tradition that times *must* and always do change, my friend. -- from _Coming to America_ . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpPUZESiCgUL.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Summaries

2005-02-28 Thread Francesco Poli
On 28 Feb 2005 12:25:52 GMT MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 25 Feb 2005 11:17:19 GMT MJ Ray wrote: > > > Well-meaning authors can go look at similar packages already > > > in main and check the copyright file. > > Imitating

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Francesco Poli
Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ...... Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpMOBWlNw032.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Francesco Poli
e code. If C code can be considered "free enough" under some circumstances, why is it not always good enough? Because it's not always the "preferred form for modification", that's why! -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterd

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-02-28 Thread Francesco Poli
e source code > requirement of the DFSG any more than a compiled binary does; if it > does, we have a problem. Undocumented code, on the other hand, while > rather annoying, is not an issue of freedom. I entirely agree! -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday.

Re: Summaries

2005-03-01 Thread Francesco Poli
style can be improved to serve this purpose better, but the need holds. -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ...... Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C97

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-02 Thread Francesco Poli
day is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ...... Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgp8PwbPUJivq.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-02 Thread Francesco Poli
ct promises to avoid them. -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. .. Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgp1zQQc4vzV6.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-02 Thread Francesco Poli
body from modifying the work easily. I agree. The above question is a good "rule of thumb", as you stated. But the definition of source code is different: as I said, the best I've seen is the GPL one ("preferred form for modification"). -- Today is the t

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-02 Thread Francesco Poli
ckage is DFSG-free itself The same applies to images with no source available or with source that requires non-free components. Of course, when source is really unavailable: sometimes the PNG image is source itself, sometimes it's not... -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about y

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-02 Thread Francesco Poli
y is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. .. Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpmolLzfdX6J.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:40:52 -0800 Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 11:15:20PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:16:46 + Matthew Garrett wrote: [...] > > I think that these issues are sarge-ignore because of GR2004-004, > > but wil

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-02 Thread Francesco Poli
hors keep suitable formats to modify images, but fail to provide the form that they prefer. -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ...... Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-03 Thread Francesco Poli
ode cannot be obtained too easily from the distributed bytecode). -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. .. Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpoy3ZiWz1TC.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Question on gnuplot licensing and why it is in main

2005-03-03 Thread Francesco Poli
lf seems to be a necessary condition for distributing modified binaries... Does this pass the Dissident test? -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ...... Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-03 Thread Francesco Poli
e code may change format back to Fortran (or maybe not). -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. .. Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpCVVVJvuLTt.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-04 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 01:42:58 + Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > But in the case of the photographer Laura, if she thinks (in good > > faith) that she has the JPEG only, then JPEG is her preferred form > > for modific

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-05 Thread Francesco Poli
source, it > violates Free Software's principles to expect others to edit the > preprocessor or compiler output to modify the software. Indeed. -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ...... France

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-05 Thread Francesco Poli
plies to programs only. -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. .. Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpwuBBLdACsG.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-05 Thread Francesco Poli
t hex string was actually modified (or going to be modified in case a modification was needed) in that form, then, yes, it was source. Hard to read source, but still source. -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ..

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-05 Thread Francesco Poli
nly Suggests: python-doc, so pythin would stay in main -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. .. Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-05 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 02:01:35 +0100 Måns Rullgård wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Interestingly enough, you also cited Java -> bytecode compilation: > > I've been told that Java decompilers can recover even variable > > identifiers f

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-05 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 10:51:11 + Henning Makholm wrote: [please send replies to the list, as I'm a subscriber and didn't asked to get replies twice; thank you] > Scripsit Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > On the other hand, we must adopt a source code defi

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-06 Thread Francesco Poli
omorrow you worried about yesterday. .. Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpsGQ3VRh4cm.pgp Description: PGP signature

latex2html goes GPL? [was: Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo]

2005-03-06 Thread Francesco Poli
On 06 Mar 2005 14:41:23 GMT MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perhaps a (wishlist?) bug should be file against the latex2html > > package. What do you think? > > Such a good idea that Roland Stigge already did it: > http://bugs.debian

Re: Let's stop feeding the NVidia cuckoo

2005-03-08 Thread Francesco Poli
r too, and without any NVidia's binary kernel module. No accelerated 3D graphics, but the videocard works for 2D. -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ...... Francesco Poli

Re: CC-BY license.

2005-03-09 Thread Francesco Poli
> the v2 license.) Evan Prodromou put a summary online regarding the CC-2.0 licenses: http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary.html -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ...... Francesco Poli

Re: The BitTorrent Open Source License

2005-03-09 Thread Francesco Poli
t the drafter shall not apply to > this License. It's a kind of magic, I suppose! ;-) Can I write my own license that says "any law or regulation that I don't like shall not apply to this license"? Would it mean that I magically nuke laws as I like? -- Today is

Re: CC-BY : "clarification letter" ?

2005-03-09 Thread Francesco Poli
y is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. .. Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgp9mlmaU2hgH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: CC-BY : "clarification letter" ?

2005-03-09 Thread Francesco Poli
es are GPL-compatible. -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. .. Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpcAIVE

Re: Opinion on the PDL ?

2005-03-10 Thread Francesco Poli
t the drafter > shall not apply to this License. Another magic license which claims to have the Power-to-nuke-laws(TM). Maybe it's the way to deal with software patents: publish under a license that says "The application of patent laws is expressly excluded". -- Today is

Re: Modifications under Different Terms than Original

2005-03-10 Thread Francesco Poli
is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ...... Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpUg212ma3AH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: GPL for documentation ?

2005-03-10 Thread Francesco Poli
omorrow you worried about yesterday. ...... Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpAB3RuxFptX.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: GPL for documentation ?

2005-03-10 Thread Francesco Poli
h programs and other kind of works. [1] This more or less means Expat, X11, 2-clause BSD or 3-clause BSD... -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ...... Francesco Poli GnuPG

Re: Help: Copyright notice

2005-03-12 Thread Francesco Poli
SS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. | See the licenses for more details. And do not forget to ship a copy of the GNU GPL v2 along with the document (a text file containing the GPL and accompanying the document will suffice). -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday.

Re: Linux and GPLv2

2005-03-13 Thread Francesco Poli
"GPLv3 or later" *and* include the "Invariant Sections" (that you will never be able to drop!). :-( To conclude, IMHO, it's a matter of trust. Release under "GPLv2 or later" if you trust the FSF to never screw things up with future GPL

Re: Linux and GPLv2

2005-03-13 Thread Francesco Poli
re community. -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ...... Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpsrAQzV3WwJ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Linux and GPLv2

2005-03-13 Thread Francesco Poli
equence, Linux (as a whole) is under "GPLv2 only". -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ...... Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B

Re: Linux and GPLv2

2005-03-13 Thread Francesco Poli
hen you combined two GPLv2-licensed works into one derivative and complied with both instances of GPLv2, by releasing W_d source code under the GPLv2 itself, not adding further restrictions, and so forth... -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday. ...

Re: Linux and GPLv2

2005-03-14 Thread Francesco Poli
later" > language. The above problem doesn't go away, though. Agreed entirely. The "or later" trick works as long as the FSF is trusted to actually fix problems and release better and better GPL versions. But I'm not sure that this trust is deserved any longer...

Re: Linux and GPLv2

2005-03-14 Thread Francesco Poli
ely agreed. > > - What happens if the program interacts with other programs over a >network? How do you define "interacting with a user"? Who knows? I agree that this is very gray and unclear. -- Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday.

Re: Linux and GPLv2

2005-03-14 Thread Francesco Poli
it. > > That's no longer the case, unfortunately. The same happened to me. They undermined their good reputation with the GFDL affair, IMHO. Especially for how they are (not) dealing with it and for how much they are (not) caring about others' opinions... :-((( --

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-03-18 Thread Francesco Poli
g changes due to MJ Ray > * Additional phrasing changes due to Francesco Poli Wow! Thanks for the credit! :) [...] > Debian [DEBIAN]_ is an operating system consisting entirely of Free > Software. Our definition of "Free Software" is specified in the > Debian Free Software Guidelin

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-03-26 Thread Francesco Poli
e not DFSG-free, which is clearly absurd. Agreed entirely. -- :-( This Universe is buggy! Where's the Creator's BTS? ;-) ...... Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C9

Re: Linux and GPLv2

2005-03-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:49:34 +0100 (MET) Gerardo Ballabio wrote: > > From: Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > > I don't think it's forbidding to remove the code: it's merely > > forbidding to drop a feature. > > You could reimplemen

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-03-26 Thread Francesco Poli
! Where's the Creator's BTS? ;-) .. Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpV4HtheReiP.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-03-27 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 02:13:46 +0100 Lewis Jardine wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > > On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 17:27:57 -0500 Benj. Mako Hill wrote: > > > > [anti-DRM clause] > > > >>In terms of suggesting a textual fix, how about: > >> > &g

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-03-27 Thread Francesco Poli
til they are willing to speak with you and Benjamin (and other debian representatives)? Take into account that IANADD, as you may already know (but it's better to remind this...). -- :-( This Universe is buggy! Where's the Creator's BTS? ;-) ..

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-03-31 Thread Francesco Poli
ations, literature, ... > > This is the reason because I hope that this project will go further. > But, as I said, it's just my personal view. We hope to solve this issue, too. > > > Hope to be useful to the discussion I think you are. -- :-( This U

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-03-31 Thread Francesco Poli
he long lasting discussions about "What is software?" that sprang up during the neverending GFDL story... -- :-( This Universe is buggy! Where's the Creator's BTS? ;-) .. Francesco Poli

Re: BitTorrent 4.0.1 - BitTorrent Open Source License

2005-04-02 Thread Francesco Poli
ed. -- :-( This Universe is buggy! Where's the Creator's BTS? ;-) ...... Francesco Poli GnuPG Key ID = DD6DFCF4 Key fingerprint = C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpzTVXiyrgcv.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-04-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 16:59:08 +0200 Thomas wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > > > Hi Thomas! > > > > ciao Franceso Please, do not reply to me directly Cc:ing the list, as I didn't ask it. Better reply to the list only, instead: I'm a subscriber and w

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-04-03 Thread Francesco Poli
we have more than 5000 articles and images on > Wikitravel alone, and I'd say that's more than enough to call them > "many". This sounds like a good idea: it even enhances the summary longevity (it will be true in the foreseeable future, as well as now). -- :-(

Re: Draft summary of Creative Commons 2.0 licenses (version 3)

2005-04-03 Thread Francesco Poli
mple proof that you're right. :) You can't > draw a strict boundary between overlapping sets. Indeed. -- :-( This Universe is buggy! Where's the Creator's BTS? ;-) .. Francesco

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