the
> repositories?
I personally think CC-v3.0 licensed works should *not* enter Debian
main.
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ced to do so. In other words, the upgradeability of the
license is a permission that is granted outside the license text and
this is a good feature to keep.
[...]
> 15.[11] Disclaimer of Warranty.
Good: this section looks OK
This section is identical to the first paragraph of section 1
reading the license text so many
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t; its mistakes.
Are you going to call the orwellian thought police, since I hold my
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his is how I recall things, correct me if I'm wrong
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On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 00:55:43 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 07:55:18PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
> > On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 19:30:36 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > And I mean, I know what a GR is for, why are you telling me? It's
> > >
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ersuade upstream to switch back to the GNU GPL v2,
since fixing each MPL issue would be a too long and error-prone process.
>
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> --Joe
You're welcome.
The usual disclaimers: IANAL, IANADD.
>
> PS - Please cc me as I do not subscribe to -l
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:24:43 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 23:57 +0200, Francesco Poli a écrit :
> > > (if your version supports
> > > such interaction) an opportunity to receive the Corresponding
> > > Source of your version b
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:33:44 +0100 Gervase Markham wrote:
> Francesco Poli wrote:
> > Bad: no clear definition of remote users
> >
> > The term "user" is not clearly defined.
>
> Is your point that it is impossible to clearly define, or do you have
&
> That still leaves open the question of what it means to "interact"
> with the progam.
[...]
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venue.
The thread where these details are discussed starts here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/07/msg00157.html
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:41:06 +0100 MJ Ray wrote:
> Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> > Was the discussion held on debian-legal (back in April)
> > intentionally left over?
>
> Yes, it was intentionally left out. It seemed to be discussing
> Propos
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:34:33 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 26 juin 2007 à 00:48 +0200, Francesco Poli a écrit :
> > On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:06:58 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > This is a bit more complicated. The QPL is DFSG-free, but only if
> > >
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re information on this, and how to apply and follow the GNU GPL, see
<http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>.
The GNU General Public License does not permit incorporating your program
into proprietary programs. If your program is a subroutine library, you
may consider it more useful to permit linking proprietary applications with
the library. If this is what you want to do, use the GNU Lesser General
Public License instead of this License. But first, please read
<http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-not-lgpl.html>.
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:47:59 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote:
[...]
> The full final text of the GNU GPL v3 is quoted below for reference.
My comments follow.
The usual disclaimers: IANAL, IANADD.
[...]
> 3. Protecting Users' Legal Rights From Anti-Circumvention Law.
[...]
> Whe
Notices; however, if the Program has
> > interactive interfaces that do not display Appropriate Legal
> > Notices, your work need not make them do so.
>
> Francesco Poli worries:
> > It mandates a feature that I *must* implement in *any* interactive
> > interface o
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> Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 3. Protecting Users' Legal Rights From Anti-Circumvention Law.
> > [...]
> > Waiving legal rights can be seen as a fee: this clause could fail
> >
TINLA, IANADD, ATATIAAWBI (According To Anthony
Towns, I Am Always Wrong Because IANADD/IANAL), ...
BTW, are *you* a lawyer?
Is *your* reply legal advice?
Or is it *based* on legal advice?
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:10:46 +0200 Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Francesco Poli:
[...]
> > I strongly *dislike* the entire concept of allowing a limited set of
> > additional requirements to be added. It's *against* the spirit of
> > the GPLv2 (where the FSF promised t
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 10:33:55 +0200 Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Francesco Poli:
>
> >> Well, we can decide this on a case-by-case basis. We already have
> >to, > because licenses which require certain notices to be preserved
> >are > very common.
> >
> &g
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:20:56 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 01:05:21AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
[...]
> > [...]
> > > 5. Conveying Modified Source Versions.
> > [...]
> > > d) If the work has interactive user interfaces, each m
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 00:24:58 -0700 Sean Kellogg wrote:
> On Saturday 30 June 2007 09:56:44 am Francesco Poli wrote:
> > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:31:29 +0100 Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > Francesco is not a lawyer,
> >
> > I *explicitly* wrote this disclaimer in my c
c statement of acceptance of any version is
permanent authorization for you to choose that version for the
Library.
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> Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...]
[...]
> > In this scenario, I have to comply with Section 5 of the GNU GPL v3.
> > Work B is the "work based on the Program" referred to in the
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 13:40:24 +0100 Stephen Gran wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Francesco Poli said:
> >
> > Clause 2c of GPLv2 is already an inconvenience and border-line with
> > respect to DFSG-freeness. This is, at least, my humble opinion on
> > the matter.
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On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:36:25 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le vendredi 29 juin 2007 à 19:50 +0200, Francesco Poli a écrit :
[...]
> > I cannot see how you can say that "the QPL is DFSG-free [...] if you
> > don't apply section #6".
> > How can you escap
s as a definite answer to an English mothertongue's ear.
Should I begin to add IANAENS, to the list of disclaimers?
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> On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, Francesco Poli wrote:
>
> > > When you convey a covered work, you waive any legal power to
> > > forbid
> > > circumvention of technological measures to the extent such
> > &g
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 20:43:22 -0700 Sean Kellogg wrote:
> On Sunday 01 July 2007 01:53:52 pm Francesco Poli wrote:
[...]
> > My case was:
> >
> > Q: Could this requirement be interpreted more liberally?
> > A: I wish it could, but I am afraid it cannot... :-(
> &g
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:45:48 +1000 Ben Finney wrote:
> Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Is "I am afraid it cannot" a definite answer?
> > It does not even seem to express certainty...
>
> (I am not a professor of English)
>
> T
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:28:03 -0400 Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 06:56:44PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
> > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:31:29 +0100 Anthony Towns wrote:
> > [...]
> > > Francesco is not a lawyer,
> > I *explicitly* wrote this disclaim
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On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 15:41:49 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 12:22:08PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
[...]
> > Clause 2c of GPLv2 is already an inconvenience and border-line with
> > respect to DFSG-freeness. This is, at least, my humble opinion on
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:09:44 +0100 Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Francesco
> Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 23:21:30 +0100 Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
> >
> >> This date is NOT arbitrary. It is AFT
dcraw would cause us to
> run afoul of the license makes it rather problematic from where I'm
> sitting.
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> Francesco Poli wrote:
> > The debian/copyright file[1] of this package states, in part:
> >
> > | All game content, sounds and graphics are licensed
> > | under Creative Commons 3.0 Attri
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Walter Landry wrote:
> Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:31:13 -0400 Anthony Towns wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> > > Note that _if_ we do stick to the view we've taken up until now,
>
L
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:40:46 -0700 Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:58:09PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
> > It is my opinion that the MPL license fails to meet the DFSG.
> > This opinion seems to be shared by other debian-legal regulars:
>
> The MPL is an
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:59:16 +0100 (BST) MJ Ray wrote:
> Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Could someone explain to me why firebird is in main?
>
> Because some ftpmaster hit approve, no-one found a bad enough
> bug to change it and this plan d
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:01:48 -0500 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> On 20/07/07, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ATATIAAWBI, bla, bla, ...
>
> WTFOMGBTWBBQ?
If this means that you failed to "decode" my shorthand, it means:
According To Anthony T
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:12:15 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote:
[...]
> On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 08:16:45PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
> > According To Anthony Towns, I Am Always Wrong Because IANADD/IANAL
[...]
> Uh, guys, stop being insane.
Politeness is always appreciated, thanks.
[..
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:18:53 +0100 (BST) MJ Ray wrote:
> Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:59:16 +0100 (BST) MJ Ray wrote:
> > > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Could someone explain to me why firebird is i
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question is: do I really need a copyright license to use,
modify and/or redistribute such a (published) database?
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:44:40 +0200 Arnoud Engelfriet wrote:
> Francesco Poli wrote:
> > Can anyone more knowledgeable than me on these topics shed some
> > light, please?
> > The main question is: do I really need a copyright license to use,
> > modify and/or red
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:23:35 +0530 Shriramana Sharma wrote:
> Francesco Poli wrote:
>
> > Shriramana, which category does the database you need belong to?
>
> I do not understand which "category" you mean. It's a database of
> latitude/longitude/elevation d
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On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:13:56 -0700 Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Francesco Poli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> [Comparison of DFSG and OSD:]
>
> > OSI based its OSD on the DFSG
>
> More specifically, Bruce Perens wrote
[...]
Yes, that's the whole story in more de
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:25:20 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le jeudi 06 septembre 2007 à 22:49 +0200, Francesco Poli a écrit :
> > On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:02:31 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> > > I think the authors have completely misunderstood
ems to
have been made so far: http://bugs.debian.org/388141
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8, because of that vote?!? Without any change in the
work, nor in its license terms?!?
That would be an absurd claim.
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a question think that one speaks in the name of or
> gives the opinions of Debian is simply dishonest. When reading answer
> to questions; I very often have this feeling.
As I said, when I reply, I always try to do my best to explicitly
clarify which are my own opinions, which are (per
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> On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 11:50:32PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
> > On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:16:39 +1000 Ben Finney wrote:
>
> > > Freek Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > [...]
> > > > i
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> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 07:19:35PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote:
> > On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:39:49 +0200 Arnoud Engelfriet wrote:
>
> > [...]
> > > excellent explanation!
>
> > In other words, IIUC, th
ne, indeed.
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other people.
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ce)... Hence, we are back in the identity diclosure problem.
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:57:34 +1000 Ben Finney wrote:
> Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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> > Wait, are you saying that you consider DFSG-free to require transfer
> > of copyright to the original author(s) in order to redistribute
> > modified versions
sh to try to distinguish
> different freedoms for a bitstream depending on how those bits happen
> to be interpreted at some point in time.
I couldn't agree more.
See my essay about the meanings of the term "software":
http://frx.netsons.org/essays/softfrdm/whatissoftware.h
nnot understand the rationale for that...
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hing that is no longer a
"specification" (e.g.: a manual, a poem, ...).
I would encourage the adoption of the unmodified Expat/MIT license:
http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:42:54 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote:
> I would encourage the adoption of the unmodified Expat/MIT license:
> http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt
I forgot to add the usual disclaimers:
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:00:02 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Francesco Poli wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:33:14 +1000 Ben Finney wrote:
> >
> >> Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[...]
> >> On the contrary, "software" is more sen
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:13:10 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:00:02 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
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> > No different from what happens when I put software onto a T-shirt.
>
> I fail to see any problem in your example.
>
> Suppose that a GPLv2'
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:25:35 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Francesco Poli wrote:
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> > This discrepancy has already been pointed out in bug #302417.
> > Could you help in solving that bug [4] ?
>
> Sure, I'll contact the main jabberd 1.x developer.
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> Indeed, assuming that the licensor confirms this, is there any reason
> why the licence doesn't qualify as free under the DFSG?
I think the above-mentioned reasons are enough to conclude that the
license fails to make the fonts comply with the DFSG.
>
> John
>
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