Re: Creative Commons 3.0 Attribution license

2007-05-31 Thread Francesco Poli
the > repositories? I personally think CC-v3.0 licensed works should *not* enter Debian main. IANADD, IANAL. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ........

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-02 Thread Francesco Poli
ddressed (by moving the package to non-free, for instance). -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C9

[long] Last call draft of GPL v3

2007-06-02 Thread Francesco Poli
ced to do so. In other words, the upgradeability of the license is a permission that is granted outside the license text and this is a good feature to keep. [...] > 15.[11] Disclaimer of Warranty. Good: this section looks OK This section is identical to the first paragraph of section 1

Re: [long] Last call draft of GPL v3

2007-06-03 Thread Francesco Poli
reading the license text so many times... -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpwJE40BM8Eq.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-03 Thread Francesco Poli
a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgptcx9dLpgAc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-04 Thread Francesco Poli
t; its mistakes. Are you going to call the orwellian thought police, since I hold my *own* opinions?!? -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Fra

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-04 Thread Francesco Poli
ou're trying to make debian-legal become pointless and useless. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpUrgbUSS7Ek.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-04 Thread Francesco Poli
developers to the Free Software Community (which, IMO, includes free software users). -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuP

Re: Request for suggestions of DFSG-free documentation licences

2007-06-05 Thread Francesco Poli
his is how I recall things, correct me if I'm wrong * IANADD -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpTu8l52L7LC.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: discussion with the FSF: GPLv3, GFDL, Nexenta

2007-06-05 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 00:55:43 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 07:55:18PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 19:30:36 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote: > > > And I mean, I know what a GR is for, why are you telling me? It's > > >

First draft of AGPL v3

2007-06-11 Thread Francesco Poli
..] -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpBYX5J3b4h2.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Knowledgetree Public License [KPL] v1.1.1

2007-06-12 Thread Francesco Poli
ersuade upstream to switch back to the GNU GPL v2, since fixing each MPL issue would be a too long and error-prone process. > > > Thanks in advance for your help. > --Joe You're welcome. The usual disclaimers: IANAL, IANADD. > > PS - Please cc me as I do not subscribe to -l

Re: First draft of AGPL v3

2007-06-12 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:24:43 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 11 juin 2007 à 23:57 +0200, Francesco Poli a écrit : > > > (if your version supports > > > such interaction) an opportunity to receive the Corresponding > > > Source of your version b

Re: First draft of AGPL v3

2007-06-12 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:33:44 +0100 Gervase Markham wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > Bad: no clear definition of remote users > > > > The term "user" is not clearly defined. > > Is your point that it is impossible to clearly define, or do you have &

Re: First draft of AGPL v3

2007-06-14 Thread Francesco Poli
> That still leaves open the question of what it means to "interact" > with the progam. [...] Exactly. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..

Re: First draft of AGPL v3

2007-06-14 Thread Francesco Poli
teraction "through a computer network" (whatever that may mean...). Or did I misunderstand your intended meaning? -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..

Re: Debian Trademarks Summary

2007-06-23 Thread Francesco Poli
ebian-legal is in the loop... -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B

Re: Copyright verification needed

2007-06-25 Thread Francesco Poli
venue. The thread where these details are discussed starts here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2004/07/msg00157.html -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..

Re: DPL's view of debian-legal (was: Debian Trademarks Summary)

2007-06-27 Thread Francesco Poli
l. I disagree: I have seldom, if ever, felt discouraged by MJ Ray's actions from contributing to debian-legal. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..

Re: Poll: Debian Trademark Policy

2007-06-27 Thread Francesco Poli
to both debian-legal and debian-project. Disclaimers: IANAL, IANADD. P.S.: I'm subscribed to debian-legal, but not to debian-project; no need to Cc: me, so long as debian-legal is in the loop... -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian

Re: Launch of GNU GPLv3

2007-06-27 Thread Francesco Poli
ebian-policy. No need to Cc: me, as long as debian-legal is in the loop... -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr =

Re: Poll: Debian Trademark Policy

2007-06-27 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 19:41:06 +0100 MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > > Was the discussion held on debian-legal (back in April) > > intentionally left over? > > Yes, it was intentionally left out. It seemed to be discussing > Propos

Re: Copyright verification needed

2007-06-29 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:34:33 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 26 juin 2007 à 00:48 +0200, Francesco Poli a écrit : > > On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:06:58 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > This is a bit more complicated. The QPL is DFSG-free, but only if > > >

Re: DPL's view of debian-legal (was: Debian Trademarks Summary)

2007-06-29 Thread Francesco Poli
tion_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpUXOfPwoWLc.pgp Description: PGP signature

Final text of GPL v3

2007-06-29 Thread Francesco Poli
re information on this, and how to apply and follow the GNU GPL, see <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/>. The GNU General Public License does not permit incorporating your program into proprietary programs. If your program is a subroutine library, you may consider it more useful to permit linking proprietary applications with the library. If this is what you want to do, use the GNU Lesser General Public License instead of this License. But first, please read <http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-not-lgpl.html>. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpF8FQn7SVOl.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-06-29 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 00:47:59 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > The full final text of the GNU GPL v3 is quoted below for reference. My comments follow. The usual disclaimers: IANAL, IANADD. [...] > 3. Protecting Users' Legal Rights From Anti-Circumvention Law. [...] > Whe

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-06-30 Thread Francesco Poli
Notices; however, if the Program has > > interactive interfaces that do not display Appropriate Legal > > Notices, your work need not make them do so. > > Francesco Poli worries: > > It mandates a feature that I *must* implement in *any* interactive > > interface o

Re: Bug#431109: [PROPOSAL] Disambiguate of Section 12.5, Deprecate GPL/LGPL symlinks

2007-06-30 Thread Francesco Poli
ng installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpMPzsoZYykX.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-06-30 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 13:41:15 +0100 (BST) MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 3. Protecting Users' Legal Rights From Anti-Circumvention Law. > > [...] > > Waiving legal rights can be seen as a fee: this clause could fail > >

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-06-30 Thread Francesco Poli
TINLA, IANADD, ATATIAAWBI (According To Anthony Towns, I Am Always Wrong Because IANADD/IANAL), ... BTW, are *you* a lawyer? Is *your* reply legal advice? Or is it *based* on legal advice? -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian t

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-06-30 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:10:46 +0200 Florian Weimer wrote: > * Francesco Poli: [...] > > I strongly *dislike* the entire concept of allowing a limited set of > > additional requirements to be added. It's *against* the spirit of > > the GPLv2 (where the FSF promised t

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-07-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 10:33:55 +0200 Florian Weimer wrote: > * Francesco Poli: > > >> Well, we can decide this on a case-by-case basis. We already have > >to, > because licenses which require certain notices to be preserved > >are > very common. > > > &g

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-07-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:20:56 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 01:05:21AM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > [...] > > > 5. Conveying Modified Source Versions. > > [...] > > > d) If the work has interactive user interfaces, each m

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-07-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 00:24:58 -0700 Sean Kellogg wrote: > On Saturday 30 June 2007 09:56:44 am Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:31:29 +0100 Anthony Towns wrote: > > > Francesco is not a lawyer, > > > > I *explicitly* wrote this disclaimer in my c

Take two: final text of *L*GPL v3

2007-07-01 Thread Francesco Poli
c statement of acceptance of any version is permanent authorization for you to choose that version for the Library. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? .

Re: Final text of GPL v3 (new interactive interfaces)

2007-07-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 12:43:27 +0100 (BST) MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] [...] > > In this scenario, I have to comply with Section 5 of the GNU GPL v3. > > Work B is the "work based on the Program" referred to in the

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-07-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 13:40:24 +0100 Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Francesco Poli said: > > > > Clause 2c of GPLv2 is already an inconvenience and border-line with > > respect to DFSG-freeness. This is, at least, my humble opinion on > > the matter.

Re: LGPL v3 compatibilty

2007-07-01 Thread Francesco Poli
allation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpYa8B9f4EUU.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Copyright verification needed

2007-07-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 21:36:25 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 29 juin 2007 à 19:50 +0200, Francesco Poli a écrit : [...] > > I cannot see how you can say that "the QPL is DFSG-free [...] if you > > don't apply section #6". > > How can you escap

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-07-01 Thread Francesco Poli
s as a definite answer to an English mothertongue's ear. Should I begin to add IANAENS, to the list of disclaimers? -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through?

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-07-01 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 13:27:47 -0700 Chris Waters wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007, Francesco Poli wrote: > > > > When you convey a covered work, you waive any legal power to > > > forbid > > > circumvention of technological measures to the extent such > > &g

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-07-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 20:43:22 -0700 Sean Kellogg wrote: > On Sunday 01 July 2007 01:53:52 pm Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > My case was: > > > > Q: Could this requirement be interpreted more liberally? > > A: I wish it could, but I am afraid it cannot... :-( > &g

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-07-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 10:45:48 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Is "I am afraid it cannot" a definite answer? > > It does not even seem to express certainty... > > (I am not a professor of English) > > T

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-07-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:28:03 -0400 Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, Jun 30, 2007 at 06:56:44PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:31:29 +0100 Anthony Towns wrote: > > [...] > > > Francesco is not a lawyer, > > I *explicitly* wrote this disclaim

Re: LGPL v3 compatibilty

2007-07-02 Thread Francesco Poli
lation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpJ2ZVy6Xshu.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-07-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 15:41:49 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 12:22:08PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > Clause 2c of GPLv2 is already an inconvenience and border-line with > > respect to DFSG-freeness. This is, at least, my humble opinion on

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-07-02 Thread Francesco Poli
l Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpM8pjHlpn6y.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Final text of GPL v3

2007-07-03 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:09:44 +0100 Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Francesco > Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes > >On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 23:21:30 +0100 Anthony W. Youngman wrote: > > > >> This date is NOT arbitrary. It is AFT

Re: Bug#431883: dcraw license does not give permission to distribute modified versions or source alongside

2007-07-06 Thread Francesco Poli
dcraw would cause us to > run afoul of the license makes it rather problematic from where I'm > sitting. Again, I agree with Don. Disclaimers: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing

Re: whichwayisup: CC-v3.0 licenses do not meet the DFSG

2007-07-08 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 6 Jul 2007 00:34:37 +0200 Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > The debian/copyright file[1] of this package states, in part: > > > > | All game content, sounds and graphics are licensed > > | under Creative Commons 3.0 Attri

Re: LGPL v3 compatibilty

2007-07-14 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Walter Landry wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 12:31:13 -0400 Anthony Towns wrote: > > > > [...] > > > Note that _if_ we do stick to the view we've taken up until now, >

Re: Last word on GPL 3, LGPL 3 etc

2007-07-16 Thread Francesco Poli
L v3, IMHO. Big disclaimers: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B

Why is firebird in Debian?

2007-07-18 Thread Francesco Poli
llation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgp7LModEcP3j.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Why is firebird in Debian?

2007-07-20 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:40:46 -0700 Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 11:58:09PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > > It is my opinion that the MPL license fails to meet the DFSG. > > This opinion seems to be shared by other debian-legal regulars: > > The MPL is an

Re: Why is firebird in Debian?

2007-07-20 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:59:16 +0100 (BST) MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Could someone explain to me why firebird is in main? > > Because some ftpmaster hit approve, no-one found a bad enough > bug to change it and this plan d

Re: Why is firebird in Debian?

2007-07-20 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:01:48 -0500 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > On 20/07/07, Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ATATIAAWBI, bla, bla, ... > > WTFOMGBTWBBQ? If this means that you failed to "decode" my shorthand, it means: According To Anthony T

Re: Why is firebird in Debian?

2007-07-21 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 13:12:15 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote: [...] > On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 08:16:45PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > > According To Anthony Towns, I Am Always Wrong Because IANADD/IANAL [...] > Uh, guys, stop being insane. Politeness is always appreciated, thanks. [..

Re: Why is firebird in Debian?

2007-07-21 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 18:18:53 +0100 (BST) MJ Ray wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:59:16 +0100 (BST) MJ Ray wrote: > > > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Could someone explain to me why firebird is i

Re: Why is firebird in Debian?

2007-07-26 Thread Francesco Poli
r did you mean to write *M*PL? -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpWiX588FuI8.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Skype license

2007-08-17 Thread Francesco Poli
walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpVL8kQuak7x.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Open Publication License / GPL / FDL

2007-08-26 Thread Francesco Poli
t it yet... The usual disclaimers: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C

Re: Licensing a work using a GPL-ed library under the LGPL

2007-09-02 Thread Francesco Poli
l.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgp26QuHXeP9v.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-02 Thread Francesco Poli
nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpjZHr7VUrNf.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Using a CC-3.0-BY file as data file for a GPL program

2007-09-02 Thread Francesco Poli
question is: do I really need a copyright license to use, modify and/or redistribute such a (published) database? -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? .....

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-02 Thread Francesco Poli
-- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpVRYWZK2xta.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Using a CC-3.0-BY file as data file for a GPL program

2007-09-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:44:40 +0200 Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > Can anyone more knowledgeable than me on these topics shed some > > light, please? > > The main question is: do I really need a copyright license to use, > > modify and/or red

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-03 Thread Francesco Poli
ASOTODP. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgp1ScEplHW9v.pgp Description: PGP signature

Last call draft of AGPL v3

2007-09-03 Thread Francesco Poli
with which it is combined will remain governed by > version 3 of the GNU General Public License. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpEqa27YG0mc.pgp Description: PGP signature

A use case of GPLv3 section 7b

2007-09-05 Thread Francesco Poli
installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpHzrNBH34tD.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Using a CC-3.0-BY file as data file for a GPL program

2007-09-06 Thread Francesco Poli
tion_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgp8ouBj2iDHD.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Using a CC-3.0-BY file as data file for a GPL program

2007-09-06 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 12:23:35 +0530 Shriramana Sharma wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > > Shriramana, which category does the database you need belong to? > > I do not understand which "category" you mean. It's a database of > latitude/longitude/elevation d

Re: A use case of GPLv3 section 7b

2007-09-06 Thread Francesco Poli
a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpRQrlCI4lcT.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: DFSG conform OSI licenses

2007-09-08 Thread Francesco Poli
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:13:56 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Francesco Poli ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > [Comparison of DFSG and OSD:] > > > OSI based its OSD on the DFSG > > More specifically, Bruce Perens wrote [...] Yes, that's the whole story in more de

Re: A use case of GPLv3 section 7b

2007-09-08 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:25:20 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 06 septembre 2007 à 22:49 +0200, Francesco Poli a écrit : > > On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 10:02:31 +0200 Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > > [...] > > > I think the authors have completely misunderstood

Re: Debian WWW use OPL - which is declared non-DFSG free?

2007-09-08 Thread Francesco Poli
ems to have been made so far: http://bugs.debian.org/388141 Thanks for pointing out anyway. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . Gn

Re: Anti-TPM clauses

2007-09-11 Thread Francesco Poli
8, because of that vote?!? Without any change in the work, nor in its license terms?!? That would be an absurd claim. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgp32W9gPeYKp.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Anti-TPM clauses

2007-09-11 Thread Francesco Poli
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Re: Anti-TPM clauses

2007-09-12 Thread Francesco Poli
a question think that one speaks in the name of or > gives the opinions of Debian is simply dishonest. When reading answer > to questions; I very often have this feeling. As I said, when I reply, I always try to do my best to explicitly clarify which are my own opinions, which are (per

Re: Anti-TPM clauses

2007-09-12 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:59:35 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 11:50:32PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:16:39 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > > > > Freek Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > > > i

Re: Anti-TPM clauses

2007-09-12 Thread Francesco Poli
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Re: Anti-TPM clauses

2007-09-12 Thread Francesco Poli
ot convincing rebuttals either. Explicit disclaimers: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key

Re: CC Non-waivable Compulsory License Scheme (was: Anti-TPM clauses)

2007-09-13 Thread Francesco Poli
ompenso" (literally "fair remediation" or "fair repayment"): what a masterpiece of hypocrisy! -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? .

Re: CC Non-waivable Compulsory License Scheme

2007-09-14 Thread Francesco Poli
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Re: CC Non-waivable Compulsory License Scheme

2007-09-15 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:43:19 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 07:19:35PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:39:49 +0200 Arnoud Engelfriet wrote: > > > [...] > > > excellent explanation! > > > In other words, IIUC, th

Re: Debian logo [was : Open Publication License / GPL / FDL]

2007-09-18 Thread Francesco Poli
ne, indeed. But as I stated above, it is in the process of being changed... Big diclaimers: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ...

Re: Advise about missing copyright info

2007-09-24 Thread Francesco Poli
ity: the existence of nym servers proves that you can effectively hide your identity, but still be contacted by other people. Explicit disclaimers: this is just my opinion. IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a

Re: Advise about missing copyright info

2007-09-25 Thread Francesco Poli
ce)... Hence, we are back in the identity diclosure problem. #include IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... F

Re: CC Non-waivable Compulsory License Scheme

2007-09-25 Thread Francesco Poli
Same disclaimers as always: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE

Re: Advise about missing copyright info

2007-09-26 Thread Francesco Poli
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:57:34 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > Francesco Poli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > Wait, are you saying that you consider DFSG-free to require transfer > > of copyright to the original author(s) in order to redistribute > > modified versions

Re: Which GPL for Ogg Frog?

2007-09-27 Thread Francesco Poli
sh to try to distinguish > different freedoms for a bitstream depending on how those bits happen > to be interpreted at some point in time. I couldn't agree more. See my essay about the meanings of the term "software": http://frx.netsons.org/essays/softfrdm/whatissoftware.h

Re: is the "lucent public license" DFSG-free?

2007-10-04 Thread Francesco Poli
nnot understand the rationale for that... IANADD, TINASOTODP. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B

Re: No mention of "patents" in DFSG

2007-10-04 Thread Francesco Poli
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Re: licensing of XMPP specifications

2007-10-20 Thread Francesco Poli
hing that is no longer a "specification" (e.g.: a manual, a poem, ...). I would encourage the adoption of the unmodified Expat/MIT license: http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpBdK09V4EJw.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: licensing of XMPP specifications

2007-10-20 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:42:54 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote: > I would encourage the adoption of the unmodified Expat/MIT license: > http://www.jclark.com/xml/copying.txt I forgot to add the usual disclaimers: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/na

Re: licensing of XMPP specifications

2007-10-22 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:00:02 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:33:14 +1000 Ben Finney wrote: > > > >> Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > >> On the contrary, "software" is more sen

Re: licensing of XMPP specifications

2007-10-22 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:13:10 +0200 Francesco Poli wrote: > On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:00:02 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre wrote: [...] > > No different from what happens when I put software onto a T-shirt. > > I fail to see any problem in your example. > > Suppose that a GPLv2'

Re: licensing of XMPP specifications

2007-10-22 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:25:35 -0600 Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: [...] > > This discrepancy has already been pointed out in bug #302417. > > Could you help in solving that bug [4] ? > > Sure, I'll contact the main jabberd 1.x developer. Thanks for t

Re: licensing of XMPP specifications

2007-10-22 Thread Francesco Poli
hrough? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpW1rVWH47cO.pgp Description: PGP signature

FYI: some clarifications about GNU GPL v3 & patents

2007-10-26 Thread Francesco Poli
spread around. - -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? . Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4 pgpLMDDOYrWbj.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] STIX Fonts Beta Test Version Ready for Download

2007-11-01 Thread Francesco Poli
] > Indeed, assuming that the licensor confirms this, is there any reason > why the licence doesn't qualify as free under the DFSG? I think the above-mentioned reasons are enough to conclude that the license fails to make the fonts comply with the DFSG. > > John > > (IAAL,

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