Re: A single unified license

2003-06-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: GPL 3 is not at the stage to ask for public comments. That was one question. The other, and more important, question was: Do you happen to have any idea as to how much time will be given for community review? Thomas

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-16 Thread Richard Stallman
That was one question. The other, and more important, question was: Do you happen to have any idea as to how much time will be given for community review? Please remember that this is not a cross examination; you are free to ask questions, but how and whether I respond to them is my

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-16 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please remember that this is not a cross examination; you are free to ask questions, but how and whether I respond to them is my decision. Of course, but please also remember that if you completely ignore a question, people will need to try and guess

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-16 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:57:11 -0400 Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was one question. The other, and more important, question was: Do you happen to have any idea as to how much time will be given for community review? Please remember that this is not a cross

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-15 Thread J.D. Hood
The idea of writing a single license for both software and documentation (i.e., for content) is a good one. Perhaps this could be done in GPL version 4. I would hope that in extending it, the beauty of the current GPL is preserved. What is beautiful about the GPL is that it grants the licensee

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-15 Thread Richard Stallman
GPL 3 is not at the stage to ask for public comments.

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-15 Thread Richard Stallman
Can someone remind me how exactly the license above is incompatible with the GNU GPL? Each one is a copyleft. The GPL says the combined work must be under the GPL. The simple license says the combined work must be under that license. Both cannot be true at once.

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-15 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Saturday, Jun 14, 2003, at 07:03 US/Eastern, Richard Braakman That's a lot easier than Here's a Debian CD. And here's my solemn promise to provide source CDs for this Debian version to anyone who asks for the next three years. Please wait while I go buy a CD burner. (Note that 2(c) is

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-15 Thread Nathanael Nerode
RMS said: GPL 3 is not at the stage to ask for public comments. Rumor has it that it will contain loads of stuff which Debian considers non-free. This is a *problem*. The FDL public comment period resulted in *no* significant changes due to the public comments. RMS has declared that he has

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-15 Thread Nathanael Nerode
RMS said: Reiser's statement was inaccurate. For GPL version 3 we are considering requirements for preserving certain limited author information in the source code, and making explicit that other GPL-compatible licenses that are present on parts of the code cannot be removed from the source, but

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-15 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 08:10:12PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: I look forward to read a draft of the GPL v3, since Hans Reiser did mention that the equivalent of 'Invariant Sections' would be added in the forthcoming GPL v3. Reiser's statement was inaccurate. For GPL version

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-14 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 22:02, Walter Landry wrote: d) Accompany it with information as to how to obtain, for a charge no more than the cost of physically performing source distribution, corresponding source. (This alternative is allowed only for noncommercial distribution)

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 06:02:56PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: For instance, here is the license we used for most GNU manuals before the GFDL: Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of this manual provided the copyright notice and this permission notice are

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-14 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 01:31:05AM -0400, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: On Fri, 2003-06-13 at 22:02, Walter Landry wrote: d) Accompany it with information as to how to obtain, for a charge no more than the cost of physically performing source distribution, corresponding source.

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-14 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can someone remind me how exactly the license above is incompatible with the GNU GPL? Material under this license seems as miscible with a work under the GNU GPL as materials under the 2- or 3-clause BSD licenses are. Provided that the entire

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-14 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 10:09:00AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can someone remind me how exactly the license above is incompatible with the GNU GPL? Material under this license seems as miscible with a work under the GNU GPL as materials

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-13 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Debian, like everyone, would love a single unified license. But that's not the problem per-se. The problem is that we want all the licenses to be free by a single definition. That some of the licenses will be incompatible with each other is a problem, but not one that impacts freedom

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-13 Thread David B Harris
On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 18:02:56 -0400 Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: large part of original message excluded because it's not relevant to my question I intend to make the effort some day, but first I have to finish GPL version 3, which faces other difficult questions. There have

Re: A single unified license

2003-06-13 Thread Walter Landry
Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I intend to make the effort some day, but first I have to finish GPL version 3, which faces other difficult questions. I have recently come to the conclusion that making a unified license is the only reasonable course left. There was much talk on this