Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-06-17 Thread Michael Tremer
Hello, > On 16 Jun 2020, at 15:01, Tobias Frost wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 09:28:05AM +0100, Michael Tremer wrote: > > (...) > >> I consider myself a great advocate for free software. Almost everything I do, >> and certain all I can, is free software - available for anyone to use. >

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-06-17 Thread Michael Tremer
Hello, > On 17 Jun 2020, at 04:34, J.B. Nicholson wrote: > > Michael Tremer wrote: >> This project however was a lot more work than we anticipated and there are >> some >> more challenges to come. We generate no income from working on this at all, >> but of >> course need to fill our own

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-06-16 Thread J.B. Nicholson
Michael Tremer wrote: This project however was a lot more work than we anticipated and there are some more challenges to come. We generate no income from working on this at all, but of course need to fill our own fridges with food every once in a while. I am not telling you anything new here

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-06-16 Thread Tobias Frost
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 09:28:05AM +0100, Michael Tremer wrote: (...) > I consider myself a great advocate for free software. Almost everything I do, > and certain all I can, is free software - available for anyone to use. Let me nitpick on that Free software also requires the ability to modify

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-06-16 Thread John Scott
On Tuesday, June 16, 2020 4:28:05 AM EDT Michael Tremer wrote: > Sorry for my noob question, but doesn’t the GPL “force” people to give back? The GPL requires that modifications are also under the terms of the GPL. It doesn't require sharing either publicly or with individuals. If the upstream

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-06-16 Thread Michael Tremer
> On 16 Jun 2020, at 00:58, Mihai Moldovan wrote: > > * On 6/15/20 10:51 PM, Michael Tremer wrote: >> As you will have noticed, I am not an expert on licenses and have picked CC >> BY-SA 4.0 because I believe Maxmind’s database was licensed under this >> before. > > I'm assuming that your

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-06-15 Thread Mihai Moldovan
* On 6/15/20 10:51 PM, Michael Tremer wrote: > As you will have noticed, I am not an expert on licenses and have picked CC > BY-SA 4.0 because I believe Maxmind’s database was licensed under this before. I'm assuming that your DB will not contain any content from Maxmind's DB? Hence, you just

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-06-15 Thread Daniel Hakimi
What do you mean by "it should not be possible to sell the database?" The CC-BY-SA and all other Free licenses allow commercial uses, including paid licenses. On Mon, Jun 15, 2020, 16:51 Michael Tremer wrote: > Thank you for your feedback. > > As you will have noticed, I am not an expert on

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-06-15 Thread Michael Tremer
Thank you for your feedback. As you will have noticed, I am not an expert on licenses and have picked CC BY-SA 4.0 because I believe Maxmind’s database was licensed under this before. We can of course change the license and I am happy to take your suggestions. What I would like the license to

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-06-15 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 21:24:45 +0200 Roberto wrote: > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 08:04:47PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > > The reason is that the one-way compatibility mechanism of CC-by-sa v4.0 > > is not exceptionally clear, and, without that compatibility, the > > CC-by-sa v4.0 license itself has

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-06-15 Thread Roberto
On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 08:04:47PM +0200, Francesco Poli wrote: > The reason is that the one-way compatibility mechanism of CC-by-sa v4.0 > is not exceptionally clear, and, without that compatibility, the > CC-by-sa v4.0 license itself has a number of controversial clauses > (non-free, in my own

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-06-15 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 11:12:29 +0100 Michael Tremer wrote: [...] > The library is licensed under LGPL GNU LGPL v2.1 it seems. Good, thanks for releasing the library as Free Software. > and the database is under the Creative Commons license. CC-by-sa v4.0 it seems. Less good, in my own personal

Re: Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-06-15 Thread Michael Tremer
Hello Debian people, I would like to pre-announce a little project that we from the IPFire Project have started and which might be of interest for you. We have been equally frustrated with MaxMind’s license change and also some other things before that. For example has the database not always

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-01-04 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 04 Jan 2020 at 03:08:29 +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: > Am 04.01.2020 um 01:53 schrieb Faidon Liambotis: > > the libraries are free-libre, the file format > > is open and freely documented (CC-BY-SA 3.0), and there are both readers > > and writers for those formats in the archive. There

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-01-03 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 04.01.2020 um 01:53 schrieb Faidon Liambotis: > On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 12:44:49AM +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: >> So if we are not allowed to distribute it anymore we have got the >> following options: >> >> 1) we keep the the current free database in our repository, which is >> free and

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-01-03 Thread Faidon Liambotis
On Sat, Jan 04, 2020 at 12:44:49AM +0100, Patrick Matthäi wrote: > So if we are not allowed to distribute it anymore we have got the > following options: > > 1) we keep the the current free database in our repository, which is > free and works. We dont care about the precision after X years (not

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-01-03 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Hi, I have added Greg from Maxmind: please forward it if you are not the correct contact for it. Am 03.01.2020 um 18:32 schrieb Florian Weimer: > * Patrick Matthäi: > >> [1]: https://www.maxmind.com/en/geolite2/eula > | 3. Destructions of GeoLite2 Database and GeoLite2 Data. From time to > |

Re: Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-01-03 Thread Florian Weimer
* Patrick Matthäi: > [1]: https://www.maxmind.com/en/geolite2/eula | 3. Destructions of GeoLite2 Database and GeoLite2 Data. From time to | time, MaxMind will release an updated version of the GeoLite2 | Databases, and you agree to promptly use the updated version of the | GeoLite2 Databases.

Maxmind GeoIP/Geolite license change

2020-01-03 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Hi, [please add me to CC, I am not subscribed] Maxmind announced - and now with the new year it is effective - that they had to change the license and the ways how they have to distribute the databases, because of some new california law, see [0]. I have got access to the new sources and the