Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-07 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:27:55PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hm, I could have sworn that the DFSG predated the Constitution and hence predated the existence of the three-clause BSD license. UCB dropped the advertising clause in July of 1999 and the DFSG

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe your reasoning is faulty, because it is based on incomplete information. There was more than one BSD license in use well before USB's Office of Technology Licensing withdrew the 4-clause version. [snip] While this is very interesting (I

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-07 Thread Branden Robinson
[You didn't honor my M-F-T so I guess this will continue to go to both lists.] On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 12:29:29PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe your reasoning is faulty, because it is based on incomplete information. There was more than

Re: Copyright question (BSD with advertisement clause)

2008-02-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Branden Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [You didn't honor my M-F-T so I guess this will continue to go to both lists.] Indeed. On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 12:29:29PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: The version in /usr/share/common-licenses/BSD is very specifically the UCB version, A major

Re: Copyright question

2008-02-06 Thread brian m. carlson
[Please follow up to -legal only. Full quote for the benefit of -legal.] On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 04:30:01PM +0100, Jean Parpaillon wrote: Hi, I intend to package HPL benchmarks. Copyright file contains the following statements: -- 1. Redistributions of source code must

Re: Copyright question

2008-02-06 Thread Bas Wijnen
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:46:31PM +0100, Stefan Potyra wrote: Hi, Am Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2008 16:30 schrieb Jean Parpaillon: Hi, I intend to package HPL benchmarks. Copyright file contains the following statements: -- 1. Redistributions of source code must

Re: Copyright question

2008-02-06 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 19:36:44 +0100 Bas Wijnen wrote: On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:46:31PM +0100, Stefan Potyra wrote: Hi, Am Mittwoch, 6. Februar 2008 16:30 schrieb Jean Parpaillon: Hi, I intend to package HPL benchmarks. Copyright file contains the following statements:

Re: Copyright question

2008-02-06 Thread Ben Finney
brian m. carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Please follow up to -legal only. Done. On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 04:30:01PM +0100, Jean Parpaillon wrote: Hi, I intend to package HPL benchmarks. Copyright file contains the following statements: -- 1. Redistributions of

Re: Copyright Question

2004-12-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* mike skaggs: I have a copyright question for you. To the extent my company wants to use the Debian Linux O/S as an embedded O/S in a device, can you please advise what copyright notice I should cite to? I understand I must include the GPL language but after reading your policy manual, I

Re: Copyright Question

2004-12-10 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 11:47:34AM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: Note that since you are creating an embedded system, the size of all these files may be an issue. I believe you could legally supply them separately as long as they are supplied in the same distribution As long as we have stuff

Re: Copyright Question

2004-12-10 Thread Josh Triplett
Andrew Suffield wrote: On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 11:47:34AM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: Note that since you are creating an embedded system, the size of all these files may be an issue. I believe you could legally supply them separately as long as they are supplied in the same distribution As

Re: Copyright Question

2004-12-10 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Josh Triplett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's true, but it seems pretty unlikely that an embedded system would have any documentation installed. Lots of embedded systems would like to be able to use the Debian packages more or less whole -- and then remove things like /usr/share/doc if they

Re: Copyright Question

2004-12-10 Thread Rich Walker
Brian Thomas Sniffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Josh Triplett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That seems a bit harsh; I think sarge would be quite usable for this purpose, as long as you avoid GFDLed bits. Is there anything GFDLed in Debian that isn't in /usr/share/{doc,info,man} ? Gosh, nobody

Re: Copyright Question

2004-12-08 Thread Christopher Priest
Brian Thomas Sniffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wites Christopher Priest [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why should anyone but the source be required to keep or distribute source code when it is freely available from Debian. The web was not available when Debian may not be around forever. Many

Re: Copyright Question

2004-12-08 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 04:00:03PM -0500, Christopher Priest wrote: http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html I'd see any action going the way of discussions first and then correction. If it actually went to court, I'd expect a claim for statutory damages as there are no real damages.

Re: Copyright Question

2004-12-07 Thread Josh Triplett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a copyright question for you. To the extent my company wants to use the Debian Linux O/S as an embedded O/S in a device, can you please advise what copyright notice I should cite to? I understand I must include the GPL language but after reading your policy

Re: Copyright Question

2004-12-07 Thread Christopher Priest
Wouldn't a typical install of Debian also properly install all the licenses required? Do the Debian install scripts break the licenses of the component software? Disk space is so cheap I can't see any developer spending time to remove anything put in by an install. Why would he have to do more

RE: Copyright Question

2004-12-07 Thread mike_skaggs
-legal@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Copyright Question Wouldn't a typical install of Debian also properly install all the licenses required? Do the Debian install scripts break the licenses of the component software? Disk space is so cheap I can't see any developer spending time to remove anything

Re: Copyright Question

2004-12-07 Thread David Schmitt
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 11:47:34AM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote: (Please note that I am not a lawyer, and this is not legal advice. The authoritative source for this information would be the actual licenses for the packages you include.) [snip] Excellent text. Could someone put this on www.d.o

Re: Copyright Question

2004-12-07 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Christopher Priest [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why should anyone but the source be required to keep or distribute source code when it is freely available from Debian. The web was not available when Debian may not be around forever. Many embedded devlopers don't publicize which distribution

Re: Copyright Question

2004-12-07 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Chris Very pragmatic reasoning. I wondered the same thing. From a practical standpoint, why would someone ask us for source code (ie, order it, pay for replication costs, then wait for it to be shipped) Not everybody who will get ahold of your product has a

Re: copyright question

2001-03-30 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) Unfortunately, it lacks permission to distribute modified copies ... and to alter it and distribute it freely? While all logic and reason might

Re: copyright question

2001-03-30 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) Unfortunately, it lacks permission to distribute modified copies ... and to alter it and

Re: copyright question

2001-03-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Jörgen Hägg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this ok for Debian? Yes. -- Henning MakholmDe er da bare dumme. Det skal du bare sige til dem.

Re: copyright question

2001-03-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) Unfortunately, it lacks permission to distribute modified copies ... and to alter it and distribute it freely? -- Henning Makholm Hele toget raslede imens Sjælland fór forbi.

Re: copyright question

2001-03-29 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Henning Makholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Scripsit [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) Unfortunately, it lacks permission to distribute modified copies ... and to alter it and distribute it freely? While all logic and reason might say that is good enough, it at least one notable

W30 DTD licensing (Re: copyright question concerning published DTDs)

1999-03-27 Thread Adam Di Carlo
I raised an issue with the W3O regarding DTD licensing. I'm including here my previous correspondance. I have another followup in my next message from the W30 and my response. -- .Adam Di [EMAIL PROTECTED]URL:http://www.onShore.com/ ---BeginMessage--- Hello. I have the responsibility of

W30 DTD licensing (Re: copyright question concerning published DTDs)

1999-03-27 Thread Adam Di Carlo
[Note: I am CC'ing the debian-legal mailing list, which is concerned with the process of evaulating licenses to determine whether we can consider them free and include them in the distribution.] jrj == Joseph M Reagle Jr (W3C) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jrj We are going to have to put more