Re: debian/copyright and actual copyrights

2007-11-19 Thread Frank Küster
Hi, Yaroslav Halchenko debian at onerussian.com writes: My questions to the list now: 1. Do we have to list all copyright holders + licenses per each piece of software distributed within a package? The opinion of the ftp-masters ist that we do have to:

Re: The legality of wodim

2007-11-19 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* John Halton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071118 17:34]: On Sun, Nov 18, 2007 at 01:45:24PM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Ben Finney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [071117 23:55]: In addition, according to other posters in this thread the term Urheberrecht is better translated as author's rights. I

Re: The legality of wodim

2007-11-19 Thread John Halton
On 19/11/2007, Bernhard R. Link [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is only a small part of Urheberrecht from what I can tell. What you mean is what the law calls Urheberpersöhnlichkeitsrecht, which is only three short passages in the Inhalt des Urheberrechts part of the law, directly followed by a

Re: debian/copyright and actual copyrights

2007-11-19 Thread Ben Finney
Frank Küster [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yaroslav Halchenko debian at onerussian.com writes: 1. Do we have to list all copyright holders + licenses per each piece of software distributed within a package? [...] we are talking about hundreds if not thousands of files with differing

Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-19 Thread Francesco Poli
Hi all, the final text of the GNU AGPL v3 has been published today by the FSF. The plain text form can be downloaded from: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.txt The only changes with respect to the Last Call Draft (discussed in http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/09/msg00032.html) are

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-19 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 23:18:10 +0100 Francesco Poli wrote: [...] Section 13 of the final text of the GNU AGPL v3 is quoted below for reference. My comments follow. The usual disclaimers: IANAL, TINLA, IANADD, TINASOTODP. GNU AFFERO GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-19 Thread John Halton
On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 11:18:10PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: Hi all, the final text of the GNU AGPL v3 has been published today by the FSF. The plain text form can be downloaded from: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.txt Thanks for the heads-up. Do you (or anyone else) happen to know

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-19 Thread John Halton
On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 11:26:21PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: The term user is not clearly defined. If I get an access denied error page through a browser, am I a user of the web application? When I visit a portal, am I a user of the browser? Of the portal application, as well? Of the

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-19 Thread John Halton
On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 10:56:23PM +, John Halton wrote: Anyway, it's a cost (a significant one, in some cases) associated with running the modified version of the Program. No, it's a cost associated with *modifying* the program, as is the cost of supplying the source code under the

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-19 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:56:23 + John Halton wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 11:26:21PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: The term user is not clearly defined. [...] Where do we draw the line? I'm inclined to say, At common sense, taking into account the intended functionality of the

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-19 Thread Francesco Poli
On Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:35:35 + John Halton wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 11:18:10PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: Hi all, the final text of the GNU AGPL v3 has been published today by the FSF. The plain text form can be downloaded from: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.txt

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-19 Thread Sean Kellogg
On Monday 19 November 2007 02:56:23 pm John Halton wrote: On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 11:26:21PM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: The term user is not clearly defined. If I get an access denied error page through a browser, am I a user of the web application? When I visit a portal, am I a user of

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-19 Thread John Halton
On Mon, Nov 19, 2007 at 07:26:53PM -0800, Sean Kellogg wrote: And, of course, web applications are often a large set of scripts... dozens upon dozens of individual scripts. If I write a single new script that adds some level of functionality, but in no way changes anything else to the

advice on correct debian/copyright

2007-11-19 Thread Jan Beyer
[Please CC me on replies as I'm not subscribed to the list.] Hi, I'm currently trying to package gwyddion [0] and I got a REJECTED because of incomplete debian/copyright file. To be able to fix this, I would need some advice. Many thanks for your help! [0] http://gwyddion.net/ The problems are

Re: Final text of AGPL v3

2007-11-19 Thread John Halton
On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 01:05:21AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote: What if the application on top of the stack is just a thin broker layer and any useful functionality is hidden in a backend that never *directly* interacts with public users remotely through a computer network? Your