Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [090328 23:46]: And this has all been discussed before. Obviously not often enough for you. Also, a PDF is a program for a certain type of interpreter. A PDF as a program is its own source. You're talking about the preferred format for modification of

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread Ben Finney
Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org writes: * Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [090328 23:46]: A PDF as a program is its own source. You're talking about the preferred format for modification of *documentation*, not a program. There's no reason to expect that two different versions of

Re: GFDL 1.1 or later

2009-03-29 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: In message 20090328194920.gk5...@const.famille.thibault.fr, Samuel Thibault samuel.thiba...@ens-lyon.org writes Hello, I have a package whose documentation is licensed under GFDL 1.1 or any later without invariant sections, Front/Back-Cover

Re: GFDL 1.1 or later

2009-03-29 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 20090329090239.gw7...@anguilla.noreply.org, Peter Palfrader wea...@debian.org writes I disagree. I have received X under several licenses, and it is my choice which of those to pick. When I re-distribute it I can redistribute it under one or any number of those licenses, but I don't

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 20090329083338.ga28...@pcpool00.mathematik.uni-freiburg.de, Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org writes - only that they output the same documentation. I concur the problem is less severe with documentation than with programs, as translating to text and reformating is often not that

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 11:02:07 +0100 Anthony W. Youngman wrote: [...] imho, the difference between plain text and a plain pdf is minimal. If, however, the pdf has loads of embedded links etc ... Please reconsider your claim after thinking about typesetting, formatting, mathematical formulas,

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Sun, 2009-03-29 at 11:02 +0100, Anthony W. Youngman wrote: In message 20090329083338.ga28...@pcpool00.mathematik.uni-freiburg.de, Bernhard R. Link brl...@debian.org writes - only that they output the same documentation. I concur the problem is less severe with documentation than with

Re: GFDL 1.1 or later

2009-03-29 Thread Leandro Doctors
2009/3/28 Samuel Thibault samuel.thiba...@ens-lyon.org: I have a package whose documentation is licensed under GFDL 1.1 or any later without invariant sections, Front/Back-Cover texts, Acknowledgement or Dedication sections. How should I formulate the copyright file?  Say that Debian ships it

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
Francesco Poli f...@firenze.linux.it wrote: On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 13:57:49 + MJ Ray wrote: [...] I found gnapplet with sources in the contrib bit of the gammu tree. https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=gammu;ver=1.23.1-2;arch=i386;stamp=1236036416 doesn't seem to mention it being

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org wrote: [...] A recent (Dec 2008) addition with no grounding in the DFSG. If I see PDFs being rejected with this rationale when it's not a question of license compliance (PDFs distributed under the GPL certainly have to have source with them, but that's not a

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
Francesco Poli f...@firenze.linux.it wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:54:00 + MJ Ray wrote: [...] What extra restrictions? The exceptions looked like actual exceptions, assuming that identify their use of FLTK is in the LGPL-2.1... which it appears to be, in section 1. Could you please

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:33:59 +0100 MJ Ray wrote: Francesco Poli wrote: [...] It seems to me that bug #521448 is an attempt to report this [...] I am not sure whether the bug should be reopened or maybe another bug report should be filed against gammu. What do others think? Reopen and

Re: Judgement about the EUPL

2009-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
Philipp Kern pk...@debian.org asked: was the EUPL[1] previously reviewed already? I found this answer at http://lists.debian.org/cgi-bin/search?query=eupl+draft It appears to have a shed-load of problems, but the EUPL is trivially upgradable to a number of good free software licences (section 5

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-29 Thread Joe Smith
Giacomo A. Catenazzi c...@debian.org wrote in message news:49c8da6f.7050...@debian.org... 4. You do not have to provide a copy of the FLTK license with programs that are linked to the FLTK library, nor do you have to identify the FLTK license in your program or

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-29 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 15:43:14 +0100 MJ Ray wrote: Francesco Poli wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:54:00 + MJ Ray wrote: [...] What extra restrictions? The exceptions looked like actual exceptions, assuming that identify their use of FLTK is in the LGPL-2.1... which it appears to

Re: distributing precompiled binaries

2009-03-29 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Anthony W. Youngman deb...@thewolery.demon.co.uk [090329 12:03]: I concur the problem is less severe with documentation than with programs, as translating to text and reformating is often not that big a loss for documentation. But I think in most cases only a .pdf is still to hard to change

Re: Judgement about the EUPL

2009-03-29 Thread Francesco Poli
On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:36:02 +0100 Miriam Ruiz wrote: EUPL v1.1 full text: Thanks Miriam! European Union Public Licence (EUPL) v1.1 Copyright (c) 2007 The European Community 2007 [...] 5. Obligations of the Licensee The grant of the rights mentioned

Re: FLTK License

2009-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
Francesco Poli f...@firenze.linux.it wrote: As Joe Smith has just explained in more detail, one of the two license versions includes a more specific requirement to embed a verbatim sentence in user documentation: I cannot find any such restriction in the GNU LGPL v2.1... I was looking at the

gammu: gnapplet.sis requires packages which are not in our archive (was: distributing precompiled binaries)

2009-03-29 Thread MJ Ray
reopen 521448 ! retitle gammu: gnapplet.sis requires packages which are not in our archive stop Justification: Policy 2.2 This email is to reopen bug 521448. As I understand the close message, while gammu's source does contain source code for gnapplet.sis, it requires packages which are not in