Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

2003-03-23 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Barry deFreese [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't learn a great deal from reading unfortunately. I think we're alike here. But at least for me some texts were great inspiration. While reading The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants I was always itching to implement what was described. I am pretty

Re: [OT] A question for programmers - Inspiration

2003-03-23 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Barry deFreese [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't learn a great deal from reading unfortunately. I think we're alike here. But at least for me some texts were great inspiration. While reading The Algorithmic Beauty of Plants I was always itching to implement what was described. I am pretty

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-04 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Johannes Rohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I don't know. Until today I've contacted them three times and there as been no response except for an acknowledgement of receipt. Therefore I don't think they'd turn out to be more responsive if I came begging for money... It's actually called

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-04 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Johannes Rohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I don't know. Until today I've contacted them three times and there as been no response except for an acknowledgement of receipt. Therefore I don't think they'd turn out to be more responsive if I came begging for money... It's actually called

Re: files in .deb

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Johannes Rohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is using the install(1) command recommended, or is it sufficient to use cp(1)? cp excels in bulk handling while install can set owner, permissions, etc. Use the tool which fits your problem best. All other things being equal, use the one with the most

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Johannes Rohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I am examining if it is possible to replace the installer package with a package that contains the actual software. So I'm not planning to make more non-free software available to Debian users, but simply to replace an existing package by

Re: files in .deb

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Johannes Rohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is using the install(1) command recommended, or is it sufficient to use cp(1)? cp excels in bulk handling while install can set owner, permissions, etc. Use the tool which fits your problem best. All other things being equal, use the one with the most

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-03-02 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Johannes Rohr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I am examining if it is possible to replace the installer package with a package that contains the actual software. So I'm not planning to make more non-free software available to Debian users, but simply to replace an existing package by

Re: Is sid recommended?

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you're developing software FOR Debian (e.g., packaging), run unstable (or an unstable chroot). I encourage developers of Debian packages to spend as much time as possible on unstable (inside the chroot, or on a plain unstable installation). We as a

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Frank Gevaerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFAIK, non-free only needs permission to redistribute. Yes. For examples of disqualified-from-non-free software look at the various installers. Newer Sun JDKs also haven't made it into non-free (don't remember why). We also sometimes disqualify software

Re: Is sid recommended?

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Matt Zimmerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you're developing software FOR Debian (e.g., packaging), run unstable (or an unstable chroot). I encourage developers of Debian packages to spend as much time as possible on unstable (inside the chroot, or on a plain unstable installation). We as a

Re: How free does a non-free package have to be?

2003-02-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Frank Gevaerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AFAIK, non-free only needs permission to redistribute. Yes. For examples of disqualified-from-non-free software look at the various installers. Newer Sun JDKs also haven't made it into non-free (don't remember why). We also sometimes disqualify software

Re: How to become a Debian developer?

2003-01-10 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Ivo Marino [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anyone on this list is searching for a maintainer for a package related to Perl or PHP I'm available as contributor to the Debian project. You know about wnpp? Take a look at URL:http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/work_needing ... a quick scan showed a

Re: Missing files in /etc

2003-01-10 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Karolina Lindqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is the individual solution when the trouble is there. But is there no way to make the package so that the trouble does not occur, or at least is warned for? If random files go missing on your system you have bigger problems. I.e. if

Re: foobillard package

2003-01-10 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Frank Gevaerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to package foobillard (http://foobillard.sunsite.dk/) for debian. Looks nice. a foobillard goes to non-free, which would be a pity. And people who have ttf-larabie-* installed will have some fonts double, which is also bad. b The

Re: gkrellmitime - Internet time plugin for gkrellm

2003-01-10 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Juan Manuel García Molina [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] , so 12 o'clock noon would be equivalent to @500 Swatch beats. [...] A day in the internet time begins at midnight BMT (@000) in Central Europe wintertime. These sentences contradict each other; you may want to rewrite the first

Re: Depends: syntax

2003-01-10 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Ah, seems you've implemented your option (d) already. Good. Frank Gevaerts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Depends: ttf-freefonts | ttf-larabie-straight, ttf-freefonts | ttf-larabie-deco That is indeed the same thing. This means my original requirement is not entirely what I want either.

Re: dh_installinit and dpkg-reconfigure

2002-11-10 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: May I suggest that dh_installinit adds 'debconf (= 1.2.9)' to ${misc:Depends}? No. That's a build-dependency, you know. There is no runtime dependency. Of course debconf (dpkg-reconfigure) is needed at run time. Are you confusing it

Re: Building optimized packages, including kernel

2002-11-10 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Ross Boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the debian way to do this when I'm building packages from source? Take a look at pentium-builder. And, using kernel-package, how do I build kernels and modules appropriately? Well, as usual. What problems do you have in mind? Should I build

Re: Advice about cfengine2 package

2002-11-10 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: May I voice an opinion against a gratuitous message saying that the behavior has changed but without real useful value? Those darn click-throughs are a large part of the complaints against debian packages during an install. May I suggest that if at all

Re: dh_installinit and dpkg-reconfigure

2002-11-10 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: May I suggest that dh_installinit adds 'debconf (= 1.2.9)' to ${misc:Depends}? No. That's a build-dependency, you know. There is no runtime dependency. Of course debconf (dpkg-reconfigure) is needed at run time. Are you confusing it

Re: Building optimized packages, including kernel

2002-11-10 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Ross Boylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the debian way to do this when I'm building packages from source? Take a look at pentium-builder. And, using kernel-package, how do I build kernels and modules appropriately? Well, as usual. What problems do you have in mind? Should I build

Re: Advice about cfengine2 package

2002-11-10 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes: May I voice an opinion against a gratuitous message saying that the behavior has changed but without real useful value? Those darn click-throughs are a large part of the complaints against debian packages during an install. May I suggest that if at all

Re: Request for sponsor: PornView

2002-11-04 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can't see anything other than a slightly different layout and the word 'porn' in its name. ... which will make it easier to find for some people. Of course we could help these as well by including porn in gqview's description, or make gqview

Re: Request for sponsor: PornView

2002-11-04 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Sean 'Shaleh' Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: can't see anything other than a slightly different layout and the word 'porn' in its name. ... which will make it easier to find for some people. Of course we could help these as well by including porn in gqview's description, or make gqview

Re: orig.tar.gz

2002-10-29 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it lets you unpack the file as is without having to worry about overwriting the debianized version. Use a temporary directory. You should get into the habit of doing this when unpacking random tarballs anyway. Or use aunpack (from the atool

Re: orig.tar.gz

2002-10-29 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it lets you unpack the file as is without having to worry about overwriting the debianized version. Use a temporary directory. You should get into the habit of doing this when unpacking random tarballs anyway. Or use aunpack (from the atool

Re: Converting dpkg-conffile in postinst

2002-10-26 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Inform the user about the change, and optionally provide a conversion script. OK. So I will be shipping a package that will break existing and working setups, while handling this automatically is perfectly possible. What about upgrading inform the user

Re: Converting dpkg-conffile in postinst

2002-10-26 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Inform the user about the change, and optionally provide a conversion script. OK. So I will be shipping a package that will break existing and working setups, while handling this automatically is perfectly possible. What about upgrading inform the user

Re: build-deps non non-US does not implies archiving in non-US?

2002-10-19 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All packages have to be buildable with the current release. And this does not include non-us if you happen to be in the us. Nope, you may freely download from non-us.debian.org, even if you're currently in the USofA. -- Robbe signature.ng Description:

Re: build-deps non non-US does not implies archiving in non-US?

2002-10-19 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All packages have to be buildable with the current release. And this does not include non-us if you happen to be in the us. Nope, you may freely download from non-us.debian.org, even if you're currently in the USofA. -- Robbe signature.ng Description:

Re: Questian about Architecture

2002-09-12 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marco Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Geert Stappers [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2002-09-12 13:48:43 +0200): Could you tell us why you want prevent free software being ported to certain architectures? Sorry, perhaps I should reformulate my question: How do I tell porters not to try to

Re: Providing a stub to avoid problem packaging?

2002-09-10 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Stephen Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One workaround I can think of for this case is to provide a pair of stub classes that would merely implement the interface that the package needs to compile, and add a note to the README.Debian stating that the user will have to download their own

Re: Providing a stub to avoid problem packaging?

2002-09-10 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Stephen Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One workaround I can think of for this case is to provide a pair of stub classes that would merely implement the interface that the package needs to compile, and add a note to the README.Debian stating that the user will have to download their own copy

Re: Looking for confirmation on archive sections

2002-09-08 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Edd Dumbill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My current thinking is to make two packages, bluez-bluefw and bluez-bluefw-firmware. The latter would have to go into non-free, and the former into contrib as it requires a non-free package to function. Does this sound OK? It is most correct, yes.

Re: RFS: ogmtools

2002-09-08 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marc Leeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: deb http://lesbos.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~mleeman/debian unstable/ deb-src http://lesbos.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~mleeman/debian unstable/ Your chances to find a sponsor are better if you tell us what the ogmtools do. Pasting your package description here would

Re: Question about purging problems

2002-09-08 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marco Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wimsey:~# apt-get --purge remove mozart mozart-contrib mozart-doc-html [...] I guess there is some problem with the dependencies here, but I am a little lost in finding exactly what it is. Can you help me? Could you add -s to that call and see how

Re: Looking for confirmation on archive sections

2002-09-08 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Edd Dumbill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My current thinking is to make two packages, bluez-bluefw and bluez-bluefw-firmware. The latter would have to go into non-free, and the former into contrib as it requires a non-free package to function. Does this sound OK? It is most correct, yes.

Re: RFS: ogmtools

2002-09-08 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marc Leeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: deb http://lesbos.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~mleeman/debian unstable/ deb-src http://lesbos.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~mleeman/debian unstable/ Your chances to find a sponsor are better if you tell us what the ogmtools do. Pasting your package description here would

Re: problem with gnupg 1.0.7 and debsign

2002-08-15 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Cédric Delfosse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % LANG=C debsign signfile ../darkstat_2.1-1.dsc Cédric Delfosse [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: skipped `Cédric Delfosse [EMAIL PROTECTED]': secret key not available gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available /usr/bin/debsign: GPG error

Re: Init scripts, maintainer scripts, and debhelper

2002-08-15 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a recommendation to make one's package better behaved? Using start-stop-daemon --oknodo does not seem to be the correct way since this turns off error detection completely. Why do you think so? My man page says: -o|--oknodo

Re: config.* in the diff?

2002-08-15 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Bas Zoetekouw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In my packages, I copy the new config.{sub,guess} over the old ones in one of the build targets, and put a backup of the original ones back in the clean target. You'll have to build-depend on autotools-dev, though ... -- Robbe signature.ng

Re: problem with gnupg 1.0.7 and debsign

2002-08-15 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Cédric Delfosse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % LANG=C debsign signfile ../darkstat_2.1-1.dsc Cédric Delfosse [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: skipped `Cédric Delfosse [EMAIL PROTECTED]': secret key not available gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available /usr/bin/debsign: GPG error

Re: Init scripts, maintainer scripts, and debhelper

2002-08-15 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a recommendation to make one's package better behaved? Using start-stop-daemon --oknodo does not seem to be the correct way since this turns off error detection completely. Why do you think so? My man page says: -o|--oknodo

Re: config.* in the diff?

2002-08-15 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Bas Zoetekouw [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In my packages, I copy the new config.{sub,guess} over the old ones in one of the build targets, and put a backup of the original ones back in the clean target. You'll have to build-depend on autotools-dev, though ... -- Robbe signature.ng

Re: pbuilder, debarchiver, quintuple-agent

2002-08-13 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Jens Peter Secher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Summary: How do one make pbuilder, debarchiver, quintuple-agent work together? [...] Nice! Second, I am required to type my passphrase four times. Is there a way to make quintuple-agent work with debuild and dpkg-buildpakage (through pbuilder)?

Re: pbuilder, debarchiver, quintuple-agent

2002-08-13 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Jens Peter Secher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Summary: How do one make pbuilder, debarchiver, quintuple-agent work together? [...] Nice! Second, I am required to type my passphrase four times. Is there a way to make quintuple-agent work with debuild and dpkg-buildpakage (through pbuilder)?

Re: How to specify architectures *not* to be built?

2002-08-11 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Geert Stappers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When the cause of the buildproblem is a missing library, then the problem will be fixed by adding the lib. You're correct that this is usually no reason for frobbing the Architecture field. (Build-)Depends fully suffice, and have the bonus of making a

Re: Why db_input ... || true

2002-08-11 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Holger Kubiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it possible that lintian searches this entrys (in the sense: is it possible to change lintian). It is. But db_* commands return status for a reason, so people may want to omit the || true and actually do something with the exit codes. lintian has no

Re: How to specify architectures *not* to be built?

2002-08-11 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Geert Stappers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When the cause of the buildproblem is a missing library, then the problem will be fixed by adding the lib. You're correct that this is usually no reason for frobbing the Architecture field. (Build-)Depends fully suffice, and have the bonus of making a

Re: Looking for sponsor: nitfol/glulxe/floo/glk

2002-07-25 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
David Given [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone interested in sponsoring them? I've managed to tick off everything else on the checklist... You didn't tick me off, yet. IOW, I'm willing to sponsor you, if nobody has beat me to it. Please mail me privately in this case. -- Robbe signature.ng

Re: Looking for sponsor: nitfol/glulxe/floo/glk

2002-07-25 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
David Given [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone interested in sponsoring them? I've managed to tick off everything else on the checklist... You didn't tick me off, yet. IOW, I'm willing to sponsor you, if nobody has beat me to it. Please mail me privately in this case. -- Robbe signature.ng

Re: request for sponsor: GtkSpell

2002-07-21 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does your package check spells or spelling? I think your package would be better described as a spelling-checker add-on rather than a spell-checking addon, unless it really checks spells. The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, 4th

Re: nvrec and possible problems?

2002-06-23 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marc Leeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, contrib/x11 it is then, ... But is this a good location? Can it be in contrib, since it is not possible to package (binary) versions of those packages: [...] contrib is for packages that depend on other stuff outside of Debian. It doesn't matter

Re: nvrec and possible problems?

2002-06-23 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marc Leeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, contrib/x11 it is then, ... But is this a good location? Can it be in contrib, since it is not possible to package (binary) versions of those packages: [...] contrib is for packages that depend on other stuff outside of Debian. It doesn't matter

Re: Looking for a sponsor for Ppower4

2002-05-16 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Jens Schmalzing [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since my main machine is an Apple Powerbook, this means that the package can go into main, because the only packages providing java-virtual-machine /on powerpc/ are kaffe and gij-3.0, which are both free. *Iff* it works with kaffe, yes. This is

Re: handling file name conflict

2002-05-16 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Alexandre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * having pyro and host conflict (but this annoys me since I need both packages on my machine) Note that bind9-host also provides the host binary, but without the mx, ns, soa, etc. convenience symlinks (at least I guess they are symlinks). * renaming

Re: Bug#146587: sendmail_8.12.3-8(hppa/unstable): Bad build-depends

2002-05-12 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Richard A Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does sbuild not properly support build-depends-indep ? It need not, as it does not concern itself with the indep part. Should binary not call binary-arch *and* binary-indep ? It should too. The real problem at hand is not the binary* targets, but

Re: libshell-ocaml{,-dev}: no problems but not in testing

2002-05-11 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering why packages libshell-ocaml and libshell-ocaml-dev (two binaries packages from the same source package) are not in testing despite that they were successfully built on all architectures and that there is no excuse for them. #

Re: lintian: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath

2002-05-11 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since you're using libtool, Am I? Libtool is not installed in the chroot where I am building the package. This suspiciously looks like somebody invented his own broken stuff :-( No, libtool scripts, like configure, usually come with the source. You

Re: lintian: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath

2002-05-09 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: W: atm-tools: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath ./usr/sbin/mpcd /home/haber/devel/linux-atm-2.4.0/debian/atm-tools/usr/lib Note that this rpath, apart from being superflous, is also broken as it points to a directory that will be nonexistent except on your

Re: Library package naming

2002-05-05 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd rather have shared libs with some Debian-specific versioning than unversioned static library because it is easier to track bugs on them, and fix them. The problem is that if upstream gets real later and uses proper versioning that may clash with

Re: lib sdl

2002-04-30 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Jérôme Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You don't seem to have understood what cooperative work means. In another mail, Jérôme Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what? The one who uploads the first wins. [...] Obtaining permission is just a matter of courtesy. Pot. Kettle.

Re: looking for mentor

2002-04-30 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marcelo Leal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm brazilian... do not speak english very well, but i'm a very good reader. My books about linux and FreeBSD are in english, all ones. And, maybe, can i help in the translate job. Debian specific translation tasks include the translation of package

Re: lib sdl

2002-04-30 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Jérôme Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You don't seem to have understood what cooperative work means. In another mail, Jérôme Marant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what? The one who uploads the first wins. [...] Obtaining permission is just a matter of courtesy. Pot. Kettle.

Re: looking for mentor

2002-04-30 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Marcelo Leal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm brazilian... do not speak english very well, but i'm a very good reader. My books about linux and FreeBSD are in english, all ones. And, maybe, can i help in the translate job. Debian specific translation tasks include the translation of package

Re: how to package gpgp again

2002-04-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Oohara Yuuma [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * gpgp should be in main (gpgp contains no crypto code --- all crypto things are done by calling gpg) So gpgp should be where gnupg is. Today that's main, you're right on that. I admit seahorse is better than gpgp, but gpgp seems rather popular

Re: Multiple configure-make cycles

2002-04-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
David Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snipping a good suggestion Even better than what I just said above is to make a source dir and 2 build dirs, like so: project_base/source-tree project_base/build1 project_base/build2 project_base/debian That way the source files are nicely

Re: how to package gpgp again

2002-04-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Oohara Yuuma [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * gpgp should be in main (gpgp contains no crypto code --- all crypto things are done by calling gpg) So gpgp should be where gnupg is. Today that's main, you're right on that. I admit seahorse is better than gpgp, but gpgp seems rather popular

Re: Multiple configure-make cycles

2002-04-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
David Caldwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snipping a good suggestion Even better than what I just said above is to make a source dir and 2 build dirs, like so: project_base/source-tree project_base/build1 project_base/build2 project_base/debian That way the source files are nicely

Re: Urgency= ?

2002-04-17 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Oohara Yuuma [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subscribe to (high volume) [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Some developers explain why the urgency is medium or high in the changelog. URL:http://www.google.com/search?q=debian-devel-changes+urgency+medium+site%3Alists.debian.org might help discovering such

Re: Urgency= ?

2002-04-17 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Oohara Yuuma [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subscribe to (high volume) debian-devel-changes@lists.debian.org . Some developers explain why the urgency is medium or high in the changelog. URL:http://www.google.com/search?q=debian-devel-changes+urgency+medium+site%3Alists.debian.org might help

Re: What to do about mksong.sh

2002-04-13 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i don't think users run it, so /usr/lib/tempest4eliza/mksong.sh If it is really a shell script, /usr/share/... is more correct. -- Robbe signature.ng Description: PGP signature

urgency=medium and testing

2002-04-13 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
to 0.4.3+20020409-1) * Maintainer: Robert Bihlmeyer * Too young, only 1 of 10 days old * Not considered shouldn't only 5 days be needed -- did I do something wrong? -- Robbe signature.ng Description: PGP signature

Re: What to do about mksong.sh

2002-04-13 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
martin f krafft [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i don't think users run it, so /usr/lib/tempest4eliza/mksong.sh If it is really a shell script, /usr/share/... is more correct. -- Robbe signature.ng Description: PGP signature

urgency=medium and testing

2002-04-13 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
to 0.4.3+20020409-1) * Maintainer: Robert Bihlmeyer * Too young, only 1 of 10 days old * Not considered shouldn't only 5 days be needed -- did I do something wrong? -- Robbe signature.ng Description: PGP signature

Re: Naming my Tempest for Eliza package

2002-04-11 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Erik Rigtorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm packaging Tempest for Eliza, but I'm unsure what to name the package. The original tar file's name is tempest_for_eliza-1.0.5.tar.gz and the generated binarys namnes: tempest_for_eliza and tempest_for_eliza_mp3. I think those names are rather ugly.

Re: What to do about mksong.sh

2002-04-11 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Erik Rigtorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My package tempest-for-eliza includes a script called mksong.sh, but I don't now were to install it. /usr/bin if users are expected to run it. See the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (available in the debian-policy package, which you should have

Re: Naming my Tempest for Eliza package

2002-04-11 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Erik Rigtorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm packaging Tempest for Eliza, but I'm unsure what to name the package. The original tar file's name is tempest_for_eliza-1.0.5.tar.gz and the generated binarys namnes: tempest_for_eliza and tempest_for_eliza_mp3. I think those names are rather ugly.

Re: What to do about mksong.sh

2002-04-11 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Erik Rigtorp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My package tempest-for-eliza includes a script called mksong.sh, but I don't now were to install it. /usr/bin if users are expected to run it. See the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (available in the debian-policy package, which you should have installed).

crypto-to-main

2002-04-07 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Hi, how much time does new-processing usually take on a package moved from crypto to main? I moved freenet-unstable a week ago, and still no word. I might have done it wrong. If I must fix an RC bug in this time, should I upload to non-us (to guarantee speedy processing), or main? -- Robbe

Re: Package names case sensitive?

2002-04-06 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The upstream prefers it jack-audio-connection-kit. Maybe that would be a good name. A bit longish. As a user, I don't have much problem with such a name (apart from dpkg -l), but I wouldn't want to maintain such a beast. I am annoyed enough with my

Re: Package names case sensitive?

2002-04-06 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The upstream prefers it jack-audio-connection-kit. Maybe that would be a good name. A bit longish. As a user, I don't have much problem with such a name (apart from dpkg -l), but I wouldn't want to maintain such a beast. I am annoyed enough with my

non-buildability always RC?

2002-03-02 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Hi, I maintain freenet-unstable, a free Java application that builds with jikes, but unfortunately not with the version in unstable and testing. I've now got a bug about that and wonder whether it should really be serious. It's not that this package is not buildable in principle -- but woody

non-buildability always RC?

2002-03-02 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Hi, I maintain freenet-unstable, a free Java application that builds with jikes, but unfortunately not with the version in unstable and testing. I've now got a bug about that and wonder whether it should really be serious. It's not that this package is not buildable in principle -- but woody sid

Re: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath

2002-02-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Kjetil Torgrim Homme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If an application uses libc6 and libslang (say), it will break when libslang is recompiled against libc7. Therefore the libc6 version of libslang needs to retained in a libc6 specific directory for backwards compatibility, and ld.so needs to

Re: binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath

2002-02-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Kjetil Torgrim Homme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If an application uses libc6 and libslang (say), it will break when libslang is recompiled against libc7. Therefore the libc6 version of libslang needs to retained in a libc6 specific directory for backwards compatibility, and ld.so needs to

Re: some questions about DBS

2002-01-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Michael Moerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well is there any documentation out there that would line out the usage of the DBS (doogie build system)? [...] Is there any url where I could fetch a debian/scripts tarball from? (or should I stick to the mentioned packages?) I think you want to

Re: Purging a replaced program

2002-01-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Third, and probably cleanest, is the option to simply stop shipping different config files (they are different, are they?) under the same name. /etc/webmin-ssl/* and /etc/init.d/webmin-ssl should work fine. I don't want to do either of these

Re: some questions about DBS

2002-01-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Michael Moerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well is there any documentation out there that would line out the usage of the DBS (doogie build system)? [...] Is there any url where I could fetch a debian/scripts tarball from? (or should I stick to the mentioned packages?) I think you want to

Re: Purging a replaced program

2002-01-27 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Third, and probably cleanest, is the option to simply stop shipping different config files (they are different, are they?) under the same name. /etc/webmin-ssl/* and /etc/init.d/webmin-ssl should work fine. I don't want to do either of these

Re: Purging a replaced program

2002-01-25 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm having a problem with something I thought was wery simple. I have two packages, webmin and webmin-ssl which are interchangeable (except as you've probably guessed one has SSL support, the other doesn't). They both install certain conffiles

Re: Purging a replaced program

2002-01-25 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm having a problem with something I thought was wery simple. I have two packages, webmin and webmin-ssl which are interchangeable (except as you've probably guessed one has SSL support, the other doesn't). They both install certain conffiles such

Re: dh_strip and -X

2002-01-21 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Sven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 06:42:23PM +0100, Torsten Landschoff wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 07:55:09PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: These are not standard executable, see my just posted reply. Indeed. But they are labelled as such, which is wrong.

Re: dh_strip and -X

2002-01-21 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Sven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, Jan 19, 2002 at 06:42:23PM +0100, Torsten Landschoff wrote: On Thu, Jan 17, 2002 at 07:55:09PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: These are not standard executable, see my just posted reply. Indeed. But they are labelled as such, which is wrong.

Re: Bug#89433: I want to adopt osh

2002-01-18 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Oohara Yuuma [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: struct.h says: | #ifndef MAXPATHLEN | # define MAXPATHLEN 1024 | #endif As long as there are no assumptions in the code that library functions won't return longer data, that's ok. p Is writing something like: Note that this license is not

Re: Bug#89433: I want to adopt osh

2002-01-18 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Oohara Yuuma [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: struct.h says: | #ifndef MAXPATHLEN | # define MAXPATHLEN 1024 | #endif As long as there are no assumptions in the code that library functions won't return longer data, that's ok. p Is writing something like: Note that this license is not

Re: non-developer adopting an orphaned package

2002-01-17 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Jan 16, 2002 at 07:15:13PM +0900, Oohara Yuuma wrote: I want to adopt osh (#89433), but I am not a Debian developer. Is it OK just to change the title of the wnpp bug and find a sponsor? (I am in the NM queue.) Please find a sponsor

Re: dh_strip and -X

2002-01-17 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Stefano Zacchiroli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The file foo (for example) have not to be stripped (is a bytecode executable, so stripping will remove the bytecode and the executable will become useless), [...] Isn't putting valuable bytecode in an ELF section that is a target of strip kludgy

Re: Private perl modules

2002-01-12 Thread Robert Bihlmeyer
Tollef Fog Heen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It includes some private perl modules, which are only used internally. Is it okay to put those in /usr/share/request-tracker/lib or should I try to put them somewhere sane in /usr/share/perl5/ ? I don't think they are useful for any application

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