Re: Making packages available to Debian users (was: Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator)

2012-04-08 Thread Dmitry Smirnov
On Sunday 08 April 2012 12:58:08 Vladimir Stavrinov wrote: The problem is that I don't see this review process here. Instead, all of You are explaining what Debian is and what is not. But I've got no much new. You are trying to breach into opened door. But point is that all this discussion

Re: Making packages available to Debian users (was: Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator)

2012-04-08 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 04:18:55PM +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: Shortly after you published your RFS I tried 'rpg' but quickly discarded it because from the first look I found no new functionality. (pwgen is more feature rich) It is not issue of functionality. Need to repeat again: the only

Making packages available to Debian users (was: Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator)

2012-04-07 Thread Ben Finney
Vladimir Stavrinov vstavri...@gmail.com writes: But for a last at least 15 years I've wrote tens of such scripts, that I am using for years in my work and life with enjoy and no problems. And now, I think, why don't make those lot of software available for Debian users? But I see: because

Re: Making packages available to Debian users (was: Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator)

2012-04-07 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 10:08:08AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: barrier to entry there: Debian should be a coherent operating system Very good. But to keep system in coherent state You should not only build barrier on entry, but also remove packages that break such coherence. And this should be not

Re: Making packages available to Debian users

2012-04-07 Thread Ben Finney
No need to send copies to me of messages that you're also sending to this forum. Vladimir Stavrinov vstavri...@gmail.com writes: So I don't understand, why do You think my package is worse of those garbage and how it break coherence. I don't have a position one way or another on whether any

Re: Making packages available to Debian users

2012-04-07 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:48:27AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: No need to send copies to me of messages that you're also sending to this forum. Sorry, it was my fault: first I send it to You instead of list, then notice this and send it to list. So I don't understand, why do You think my

Re: Making packages available to Debian users (was: Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator)

2012-04-07 Thread Fernando Lemos
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Vladimir Stavrinov vstavri...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 10:08:08AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: barrier to entry there: Debian should be a coherent operating system Very good. But to keep system in coherent state You should not only build barrier

Re: Making packages available to Debian users

2012-04-07 Thread Fernando Lemos
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Vladimir Stavrinov vstavri...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:48:27AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: So I don't understand, why do You think my package is worse of those garbage and how it break coherence. I don't have a position one way or another on

Re: Making packages available to Debian users (was: Bug#659047: RFS: rpg - Readable Password Generator)

2012-04-07 Thread Vladimir Stavrinov
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:20:55PM -0300, Fernando Lemos wrote: to get rid of it. It's thus reasonable that we want to make sure packages are in good shape for entry in Debian. It's also natural that It is very easy to execute this task: please, read this shell script. It is short and simple