Re: GPL openssl

2014-07-20 Thread Arno Töll
On 20.07.2014 06:46, Jörg Frings-Fürst wrote:
 Remmina does not use openssl. It uses libssh, which is linked against
 openssl.
 
 Must Remmina also have the license exception?

Yes. This is transitive. As soon as one portion of the executable uses
GPL code resulting in a running system that uses OpenSSL eventually, you
must ask the authors of the GPL portion for a exception to make this
work together.

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Re: Urgent: could anyone please sponsor upload of policyd-weight due to RC-Bug _before_ package will be removed?

2014-07-13 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 13.07.2014 20:13, Werner Detter wrote:
   dget -x 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/policyd-weight/policyd-weight_0.1.15.2-8.dsc

I uploaded your package as is, as the diff is very small. Please
follow-up on the bug next time, if you'd like to ping us. That being
said, I wonder about the purpose of that hunk, but meh:


@@ -12,7 +20,7 @@
   * Add 09_fix_net_dns_usage.patch which fixes infinite loop when dns
resolver
 is reachable only via IPv6 (Closes: #726670)

- -- Werner Detter wer...@aloah-from-hell.de  Sun,  8 Dec 2013
15:23:19 +0100
+ -- Werner Detter wer...@aloah-from-hell.de  Sun, 15 Dec 2013
17:05:19 +0100

 policyd-weight (0.1.15.2-5) unstable; urgency=high



Anyway, I think I told you like two years ago already that you can ping
me directly if you need a policyd-weight upload, didn't I?


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Re: Splitting a package

2014-01-12 Thread Arno Töll
Hi Ole,

On 12.01.2014 13:30, Olе Streicher wrote:
 However, now I get a bug report http://bugs.debian.org/734917 that the
 new -doc package has files that would overwrite parts of the old base
 package.
 
 How should I solve this problem? Should I set Conflicts and
 Replaces: to cpl-plugin-fors (=...-1) for both new packages? I am
 not sure whether two packages can replace (together) the old one, or if
 they then are alternatives?

Please use Replaces in conjunction with Breaks (not Conflicts). See
Policy §7.6.1 which explains  your use case:
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-replaces


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Re: correct packaging of web applications

2013-07-23 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 23.07.2013 10:16, Sebastian Tramp wrote:
 Hi Arno, thank you for clarifying this.
 Is there a similar document for apache 2.2 ?

you can stop worrying about Apache2 2.2 right now. Any new package you
are going to upload will go through Sid into Debian which will have
Apache 2.4 only.

That being said, there is no such document for 2.2.

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Re: correct packaging of web applications

2013-07-23 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 23.07.2013 20:08, Russ Allbery wrote:
 Hm, how do you deal with the conf.d vs. conf-available change and the
 completely different maintainer script actions?

there are several possibilities, but I suggest something like [1] which
I wrote for that purpose.

[1]
http://wiki.debian.org/Apache/PackagingFor24#Making_web_applications_compatible_to_both.2C_Apache_2.2_and_2.4
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Re: correct packaging of web applications

2013-07-22 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 22.07.2013 22:02, Paul Wise wrote:
 Unfortunately there is no discussion on how to reload the apache 
 configuration?
 
 I guess the right thing here is to use `invoke-rc.d apache2 reload` as
 per the usual for init stuff.

Please refrain to interface with the web server directly when enabling a
web application. In particular, never call invoke-rc.d apache2 from a
maintainer script. Moreover, conf.d is not used anymore as other people
said already.

As Russ says, we have detailed instructions shipped in the Apache
packaging you can consult by reading /usr/share/doc/apache2/PACKAGING.gz
though I encourage you to use dh_apache2.


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Re: mentors.d.n upload issues

2013-07-18 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 18.07.2013 10:38, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
 You could:
 
 $ dcut --input xalan_1.11-2_source.changes

mentors does not support dcut as it does not run debianqueued


Bill, your package was rejected in lack of a signature. You should have
gotten that by mail, too:

2013-07-16 + 02:09:45,196 DEBUG [debexpo.importer.26427] Determining
user from 'Changed-By:' field: William Blough de...@blough.us
2013-07-16 + 02:09:45,196 DEBUG [debexpo.importer.26427]
Changed-By's email address is: de...@blough.us
2013-07-16 + 02:09:45,380 ERROR [debexpo.importer.26427] Rejected:
Your upload does not contain a valid signature. Output was:

gpg: Signature made Di 16 Jul 2013 02:04:25 UTC using RSA key ID 566D2F19
gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found

2013-07-16 + 02:09:45,383 DEBUG [debexpo.lib.email] Getting mail
template: importer_reject_maintainer
2013-07-16 + 02:09:45,396 DEBUG [debexpo.lib.email] Starting SMTP
session to localhost
2013-07-16 + 02:09:45,469 DEBUG [debexpo.lib.email] Sending email to
de...@blough.us



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Re: How to get rid of superseded uploads to experimental

2013-06-10 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 10.06.2013 14:06, Andreas Tille wrote:
 Do I need to
 file a ROM bug to ftpmaster for every single package that should vanish
 from experimental?

Yes. That.

Having that said, if you want to move a package from experimental to
unstable, just upload a newer version to sid, and it will be removed
(semi-) automatic as that's detected by the cruft report.

That's not going to help if you want to remove a package altogether
though, which is when you need a RoM bug.

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Re: Sign source packages for mentors.debian.net

2013-03-21 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 21.03.2013 21:08, Felix Natter wrote:
 Do I have to follow (some of) these steps?
   http://wiki.debian.org/Keysigning

yes, the first one is enough though. This is not covered by docs,
because that's a generic OpenGPG problem not specifically related to
Debian (Mentors). You need to create a key satisfying the Debian keyring
maintainers [1]. See any tutorial for OpenGPG for detailed instructions.


[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/09/msg3.html
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Bug#700296: RFS: libapache2-mod-geoip/1.2.8-1 [ITA] -- GeoIP support for apache2

2013-03-12 Thread Arno Töll
Hi Prach,

On 11.03.2013 09:07, Prach Pongpanich wrote:
 * Please consider upgrading to new style (dh = 7) rules style. It makes
 life easier to you and is more forward oriented. That said, your rules
 file looks ok but you could ease life to all of us, including you.
 * While you're at it, remove the boilerplate copyright messages in
 debian/rules. They are not needed.
 
 Done

Nice thanks. By the way, it's up to you, but you may want to parse the
version from dpkg-changelog, i.e. instead of

VERSION = 1.2.8

do something like

VERSION := $(shell dpkg-parsechangelog | perl -ne 'print $$1 if
m/Version:\s*([\d\.]+)-\d+/')

Note that get-orig-source targets are supposed to be called from an
arbitrary directory though. Thus be careful where you expect
debian/changelog for such jobs. I wrote a similar snippet recently, you
are welcomed to steal [1] if you'd like.

 
 * Please consider using the copyright format formerly known as dep5 for
 debian/copyright:
 http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/
 
 Updated.

Thanks. But the license does not seem to match. Note that you seem to
have used the original Apache license, whereas MaxMind modified it to
match their corporate/product name in the no-advertising clause

debian/copyright:

 5. Products derived from this software may not be called Apache,
nor may Apache appear in their name, without prior written
permission of the Apache Software Foundation.

vs. mod_geoip.c:

 * 4. The names MaxMind and GeoIP must
 *not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this
 *software without prior written permission. For written
 *permission, please contact supp...@maxmind.com.
 *

Despite of them calling it Apache 1.1 license which is what may have
confused you.

While it's acceptable I discourage you use the same license for debian/
though. You're not MaxMind and thus there is no point to re-use the same
non-advertising clauses for your contributions.


 This repo is already in GitHub, I can''t access Alioth collab-maint.

Let's get this done later then. For now you can use GitHub as well.

 By the way: If you want, we can do another upload to experimental for
 Apache 2.2 with you as a maintainer set.
 
 OK, Thank you very much.

Do you want to do so? That would imply a package for unstable pushed to
version 1.2.8 with you as maintainer set. You can leave the remaining
bits as is, because it will work with the 2.2 version of the package and
is for a timely limited use.


[1]
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/kpcli.git;a=blob;f=debian/rules;h=8d7f51393d05142a503f02bd8885010dd5f91355;hb=HEAD

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Bug#702909: RFS: unblock policyd-weight/0.1.15.2-5

2013-03-12 Thread Arno Töll
On 12.03.2013 21:19, Werner Detter wrote:
   * Add 08_del_dnsbl.njabl.org.patch which removes dnsbl.njabl.org list due
 to servuce shutdown on 2013-03-01
   * Bumped standard versions to 3.9.4

The RT does not feel very comfortable to push standards at this stage.
But given there are no real changes, they may generously ignore that
while reviewing your debdiff.


btw. there is a typo in your changelog and you may want to close #702838
with the upload.


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Re: Runtime directories: in package or by scripts?

2013-03-12 Thread Arno Töll
On 10.03.2013 13:53, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 04:47:42PM +0400, Игорь Пашев wrote:
 What is the best way to ship such a diretory:
 in package (d/foo.dirs) or create in postinst script?
 Why postinst?

 Because on removal there will be a message cannot remove directory,
 if there are file in that directory.
 Purge them too.

Or leave it alone and ignore the dpkg warning, if you consider the data
is user contributed. Think of the SQL database use case which preserves
database data.

Most of them are using debconf to ask the user whether the data shall be
removed. That might, or might not overkill for your package.


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Bug#702909: RFS: unblock policyd-weight/0.1.15.2-5

2013-03-12 Thread Arno Töll
On 13.03.2013 00:46, Werner Detter wrote:
 The respective dsc file for the stable package can be found at:
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/p/policyd-weight/policyd-weight_0.1.15.1-2+squeeze2.dsc

Please file a pu bug against the release.debian.org pseudo-package along
with a debdiff. For s-p-u the RT needs to acknowledge your changes
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Bug#700296: RFS: libapache2-mod-geoip/1.2.8-1 [ITA] -- GeoIP support for apache2

2013-03-09 Thread Arno Töll
Hi Prach,

as promised here is a review for  libapache2-mod-geoip.


* Please consider upgrading to new style (dh = 7) rules style. It makes
life easier to you and is more forward oriented. That said, your rules
file looks ok but you could ease life to all of us, including you.

* While you're at it, remove the boilerplate copyright messages in
debian/rules. They are not needed.

* debian/compat 7 is fine, but not up to date. Please verify if your
package works fine with debhelper 9 and if so, raise the compatibility
level. Don't forget to push the debhelper dependency because Lintian
needlessly may warn you otherwise.

* Please consider using the copyright format formerly known as dep5 for
debian/copyright:
http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/copyright-format/1.0/

* Since you build a single binary package only, there is no need to call
the debhelper files libapache2-mod-geoip.apache2.suffix in debian/. You
can just omit the package name if you want. This is entirely up to you
though.

* Your watch file does not work:

$ uscan --report-status
uscan warning: In debian/watch,
  no matching hrefs for watch line

http://www.maxmind.com/download/geoip/api/mod_geoip2/mod_geoip2_([\d+\.]+|\d+)\.tar\.gz


* There is no policy version 3.9.3.4. You either mean 3.9.3 or 3.9.4,
with the latter being the most current one.

* Please consider using a VCS for your packaging


By the way: If you want, we can do another upload to experimental for
Apache 2.2 with you as a maintainer set.

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Re: Remove old Changelog

2013-03-07 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 07.03.2013 23:11, Bas van den Dikkenberg wrote:
 Is it allowed to remove old changelog entry's ?

why do you want to do so. Disk space is cheap these days and having them
is beneficial for archiving purposes. Some packages have a long history
of changelogs [1] and that's very helpful if you want to track down when
an issue was introduced for example.

Having that said: Yes, you're allowed to.


[1] e.g.
http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/a/apache2/current/changelog
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Bug#700296: RFS: libapache2-mod-geoip/1.2.8-1 [ITA] -- GeoIP support for apache2

2013-03-03 Thread Arno Töll
owner 700296 !
thanks

Hi Prach,

I will review and sponsor your upload once I uploaded Apache2 2.4.4 in a
few days. You'll hear from me then :)



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Re: Packaging virtual machine images .ova?

2013-03-02 Thread Arno Töll
On 02.03.2013 14:34, adrelanos wrote:
 What about having let's say for example an OpenBSD virtual machine
 image in Debian repository?

At least for Debian proper that's highly unlikely, because you'd need to
build the image from source and make sure its DFSG compliant, which is
pretty hard to show for full disk images.

If you want to do it yourself and put it to a private repository, there
is nothing to stop you. In fact, it's easy just to install an image to
any given location through a package. However, be aware that updates in
the package /will/ overwrite the image, and that's typically not what
people expect when they start to write to virtual machine disk images
during the guest system runs.


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Re: Packaging virtual machine images .ova?

2013-03-01 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 02.03.2013 03:17, adrelanos wrote:
 is it possible to package Virtual Machine images, such as Virtual Box
 .ova images?

Possible? Surely. What would the benefit be, though? What are you trying
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Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-27 Thread Arno Töll
On 27.02.2013 20:57, Anton Gladky wrote:

 First - a weighted sponsorship priority queue - all packages get a
 rating and higher-rated packages will get sponsored sooner than others.
 
 I agree with that. On my opinion the package weight should be
 calculated, considering the following parameters:
 
 a) Number of closed bugs with the uploads.
 b) ITA-ITP, ITA should get more points, than ITP.
 c) Number of packages, maintained by applicant, his experience.
 d) Number of days the package hangs in the queue.
 
 Not sure about coefficients between these parameters.

Something like that is planned for Debian Mentors. It's just nobody
found time to implement it. Volunteers?


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Re: Why is it so hard to get sponsors.....?

2013-02-26 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 26.02.2013 22:31, W. van den Akker wrote:
 I understand [1] and [2]. I meant uploading to unstable and not testing.
 But none of the DD was ever answering the emails..

Be patient and don't give up. I know this can be frustrating and
annoying, and we're slowly trying to improve the situation, but we all
agree the situation is still all but optimal to sponsorees.


Moreover, personally I'm always keen to hear about ideas how to improve
the situation though. So let us know if you got good ideas.


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Bug#694778: A little test message to see whether our filters work now

2013-01-15 Thread Arno Töll
Sorry for the hijack of your RFS, I'm testing our new mail filter.
Please ignore me :)

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Announcement: New mail filters and subscription in place

2013-01-15 Thread Arno Töll
Hello,

now that our BTS driven sponsorship request tracking seems to be widely
adopted and used, we finally finished the final step. Most of us seemed
to like and prefer the BTS driven approach, but we found the control
traffic useless and noisy for a discussion list.

Hence we originally tried to convince list masters to filter out control
traffic on the server side [1], but we came out with a new solution [2]
which went live now. Here is a summary of the current working functionality:


1) debian-mentors@l.d.o is and will remain the home of all packaging and
mentoring related questions. Sponsorship requests and following
discussions are automatically forwarded to this list

2) package-sponsorship-requests@l.d.o [3] will track /all/ sponsorship
requests messages but is not thought as a discussion list. It will act
as an owner of the sponsorship-requests [4] pseudo-package and will
collect all sponsoring related messages, including control messages, for
archiving purposes.


This means: You do not need to subscribe to a new list if you are a
debian-mentors reader, all relevant (human contributed) content will be
forwarded to that list, but the complete noise^W^W^W^W^Winformation is
available through package-sponsorship-requests@l.d.o only. If you prefer
to get all of it, subscribe to that list as well.

Thanks for all involved people for their help.


[1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=658498
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677277
[3] https://lists.debian.org/package-sponsorship-requests/
[4] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=sponsorship-requests
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Re: Comments on mentors.debian.net

2013-01-15 Thread Arno Töll
Hi

On 15.01.2013 11:20, Boris Pek wrote:
 Since RFS bug reports via sponsorship-requests pseudo-package is widely used
 now, is not it the good idea to disable feature Comments on package pages?

this was discussed already. In the long term we are trying to make the
difference between a bug report reply and a on-site comment disappear,
but that's not implemented yet.

While I personally agree that the comment function is rather useless as
it is today, others in the mentors team seem to like it :-)

 If not, then could you fix notifications about new comments? They are not sent
 to email now. [1]

That should be working, but I'll see if I find a problem.


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Re: Fwd: Package compat-wireless-3.5.4 was rejected

2012-12-16 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 16.12.2012 12:22, Jayen Ashar wrote:
 Upload failed: 403 Forbidden

this means, at that time a package matching the names you tried to
upload was already found in the incoming queue. It's not allowed to
upload packages.

However, by now the problem should be resolved automagically as the
input queue was processed.

The problem is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=665986
by the way. Using dput-ng solves this problem.


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Re: git-buildpackage: can it recreate the orig.tar.gz without the pristine-tar?

2012-12-03 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 03.12.2012 13:44, Miguel Telleria de Esteban wrote:
  and it works !!
 so why does not git-buildpackage do this?

Try:

md5sum $orig_tarball_from_pristine_Tar
vs
md5sum $orig_tarball_recreated_from_the_upstream_branch

While the /contents/ of the tarball are identical, the tarball is not
bit-by-bit the same as the original. However, it needs to be in order to
be accepted by dak for follow-up uploads, as it can't ensure changes are
in meta data only.


As far as I know, the delta in pristine-tar is mainly to ensure file
ordering, permissions and time stamps.


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Re: Maintainer address for collab-maint team maintained packages

2012-11-19 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 11/19/2012 03:28 PM, Marc Haber wrote:
 package@packages.debian.org seems to add that header automatically
 before forwarding to the PTS, but using that address as Maintainer: is
 a lintian _error_ (not even a warning) (Severity: serious, Certainty:
 certain).

Thanks for trying! I originally implemented that check out of a stupid
idea Paul Tag. came up with, but I'm glad it really helped someone to
find an error! :-)


Thing is, you can't use the QA forwarder because it relies on your
source control field to learn about actual forwardings. If you would add
right that address, the result would be an infinite loop because you
would essentially forward mail to package@packages.debian.org to
package@packages.debian.org. I hope it is clear why this won't work.


To answer your question: Yes, you really need a top level Alioth project
if you want your own mailing list (or any other third party hosted service).

That said, I'd be very glad to have some mailing list Debian service
different to lists.d.o for such lightweight list management purposes.


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Re: Maintainer address for collab-maint team maintained packages

2012-11-19 Thread Arno Töll
On 11/19/2012 08:10 PM, Sune Vuorela wrote:
 On 2012-11-19, Arno Töll a...@debian.org wrote:
 That said, I'd be very glad to have some mailing list Debian service
 different to lists.d.o for such lightweight list management purposes.
 
 wasn't there a teams.dn ?

Does not seem to be alive anymore and definitively B.D. (before
daemonkeeper). Aside, I think there also was a similar concept driven by
dba as debian-maintainers.orgorso.

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Re: debian/bug-control: report bug against unofficial debian packages

2012-11-05 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 05.11.2012 17:43, bilibop project wrote:
 The questions:
 what can happen if a user reports a bug against one of my packages by
 using 'reportbug' ?
 Must I explicitly add 'Send-To: quid...@poivron.org' in debian/bug-control
 to avoid conflicts with Debian BTS ?

If you want people to use reportbug to submit bugs to you, this is the
way to go, yes. Alternatively you could tell people on the page where
you inform about your repository where they are supposed to report bugs.

 The .dsc and .tar.gz files in the personal repository are exactly the
 sames than those I have uploaded on mentors.debian.net. If the answer to
 the previous question is YES, must I send a different version on mentors,
 even if the package is not sponsored (because if it is sponsored a day,
 the source will be modified and the personal repository will disappear) ?

Yes, you may need to do so. Alternatively you can just upload the
package including the debian/bug-control file you mentioned to mentors
and hope your future sponsor will hopefully detect it and ask you to
remove it by then.


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Re: mentors site: uploading fails - 403 Forbidden

2012-09-30 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 30.09.2012 14:30, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
 On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 02:23:26PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
 Can someone please let me know if this is my fault or a server
 issue?
 There is already turnserver 0.6-1 on the mentors incoming queue,
 did you try to upload it twice?
 Yes, I made another change and then tried to upload again
 You cannot make a new upload until the old one has been processed.

True, but the actual problem is #665986. Using FTP or getting dput to
ignore HTTP/403 errors solves the problem for incomplete uploads.


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Re: Package removed from Mentors without notification

2012-09-27 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 27.09.2012 15:56, Robert James Clay wrote:
 Bart closing the hwb RFS sponsorship bug this morning because hwb
 had been removed from the Mentors site was the first I knew that it had
 been removed. I thought there was something in place to notify people
 about things like that?

Mentors sends you an email when a package is removed (after a timeout of
20 weeks that is). Bart may not follow that tightly, so that the package
may have been removed quite a lot of days before already.


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Re: Package removed from Mentors without notification

2012-09-27 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 27.09.2012 20:08, Robert James Clay wrote:
 Arno,
 
 On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 11:32 -0400, Arno Töll wrote:
 On 27.09.2012 15:56, Robert James Clay wrote:
 Bart closing the hwb RFS sponsorship bug this morning because hwb
 had been removed from the Mentors site was the first I knew that it had
 been removed. I thought there was something in place to notify people
 about things like that?

 Mentors sends you
 
   you as in who uploaded the archive to the Mentors site? As that
 should have come to me here and so far I've not found such an email...

yes, you as in the user having uploaded a package which was recognized
and accepted into your personal package list.

 
  an email when a package is removed (after a timeout of
 20 weeks that is).
 
 20 weeks after what?  I do recall some discussion about something
 like that but I don't recall details.  

20 weeks after the last activity (within mentors.debian.net).

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Bug#673223: RFS: ipset/6.14-1 -- administration tool for kernel IP sets

2012-09-25 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

Bart noticed, you uploaded a new version to Mentors. Should it be uploaded?


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Re: Bug#673223: RFS: ipset/6.14-1 -- administration tool for kernel IP sets

2012-09-25 Thread Arno Töll
On 26.09.2012 01:59, Neutron Soutmun wrote:
 My intention is waiting until the Wheezy released, but is it OK if it be
 uploaded to 'experimental' first ?

You're the boss. :

(as I said last time, you can also contact me directly, if you want to
get something sponsored. You do not need to file a RFS bug.)

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Bug#673223: RFS: ipset/6.14-1 -- administration tool for kernel IP sets

2012-09-25 Thread Arno Töll
On 26.09.2012 01:59, Neutron Soutmun wrote:
 My intention is waiting until the Wheezy released, but is it OK if it be
 uploaded to 'experimental' first ?

You're the boss. :

(as I said last time, you can also contact me directly, if you want to
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Re: RFS - pu: package policyd-weight/0.1.15.1-2+squeeze1

2012-09-22 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 22.09.2012 11:41, Werner Detter wrote:
 Therefor I've recreated the package from stable with the mentioned
 patches applied. The relevant bugreport against release.debian.org can
 be found here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=688266
 An upload to squeeze for this package is confirmed.

Sponsored, thanks. Please file a RFS bug for future sponsorship requests
as described in [1] :)

[1] http://mentors.debian.net/sponsors/rfs-howto

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Bug#688411: sponsorship-requests: Please convert my DM upload permissions to new format

2012-09-22 Thread Arno Töll
On 22.09.2012 16:28, Gabriele Giacone wrote:
 Attached file should grant me upload permissions according to new interface 
 [0] for
 packages I currently can upload [1].
...
 Allow: critterding gnash jedit jinput jutils jxplorer lwjgl sunflow
sweethome3d ubiquity-extension pidgin-skype

Uhm. I don't think this meant that way. Instead you should ask your
previous DMUA sponsor(s) individually for the package(s) they advocated you.

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Re: How to re-add removed packages

2012-09-19 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 19.09.2012 11:02, Tz-Huan Huang wrote:
 I'd like to maintain some packages, which are removed in sid now.
 (scim-hangul, scim-sunpinyin, scim-pinyin, scim-array).
 How should I do? Should I send a WNPP bug report as a usual new
 package, or just package it, change the maintainer to me and
 upload it to mentors.debian.net to find a sponsor?
 Thanks!

Yes. Removed packages can be re-introduced like any other package using
the same procedures. Please check the reason for the removal, however.
You new package should fix that problem as very least.


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Re: Bug#688111: RFS: git2cl/2.0+git200808271242-2

2012-09-19 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 19.09.2012 15:22, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
   * Standards to 3.9.3.

I didn't look at your package, but at a first glimpse while looking
through my mailbox, this came to my attention: Yesterday a new policy
version was released, making this standards version outdated.


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Bug#688111: RFS: git2cl/2.0+git200808271242-2

2012-09-19 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 19.09.2012 15:22, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
   * Standards to 3.9.3.
I didn't look at your package, but at a first glimpse while looking
through my mailbox, this came to my attention: Yesterday a new policy
version was released, making this standards version outdated.

(resent, I wrote the wrong destination :)

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Re: How to remove a package from unstable

2012-09-17 Thread Arno Töll
On 17.09.2012 21:41, Jakub Wilk wrote:
 AFAIK freeze doesn't affect removals in any way. So:
 
 s/ in non-freeze times//

I can confirm that. This is what Niels and Adam confirmed a few days ago.

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Re: How to remove a package from unstable

2012-09-15 Thread Arno Töll
Hi Ole,

On 15.09.2012 16:04, Olе Streicher wrote:
 I accidently uploaded a package to unstable (python-cpl) that should
 have gone to experimental. How can I remove that from unstable but not
 from testing?

ftpmaster removals do only affect Sid. They are not propagated to
Testing (even less during a freeze). You can use the reportbug tool to
report a ftpmaster removal bug - pick the ftp.debian.org pseudo-package.

If you want to have a package removed from Testing, or even Stable, you
need to get in touch with the Release Team instead.

Moreover, it is not an ideal situation if a package is in Testing only,
but not in Unstable. Hence you could just upload a newer version to
Unstable, which is actually a downgrade (say, you have uploaded 1.0, but
Sid should have 0.99, upload something with a release number such as
1.0.really.0.99). That does not need any removal request.






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Re: How to remove a package from unstable

2012-09-15 Thread Arno Töll
On 15.09.2012 16:13, Arno Töll wrote:
 ftpmaster removals do only affect Sid. They are not propagated to
 Testing (even less during a freeze). 

Just for the archives: I meant: They are not removed straight from
Testing by a ftpmaster removal, but Britney may propagate the change in
Testing in non-freeze times.


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Bug#686679: RFS: asn1c/0.9.21+dfsg-1 [ITP] -- ASN.1 compiler for C

2012-09-04 Thread Arno Töll
tags 686679 + moreinfo
thanks

Hi Eugene,

On 04.09.2012 18:23, Eugene Seliverstov wrote:
 A package asn1c was previously maintained by W. Martin Borgert 
 deba...@debian.org
 but it was removed from testing and unstable distributions due to lack of 
 adopters.
 Current package is based on original package and includes several new patches
 to conform with latest Debian Policy.


this is a review of your package.

* Do not install Lintian overrides for manpage-has-errors-from-man. The
warning is legit, but of minor importance. Either fix it, or ignore it.

* You are missing several uploads of asn1c which were in Debian at some
point after Squeeze's version. You can find the latest package in [1].
Consequently your version number is too low. 0.9.21.dfsg-1 was in Debian
already in 2007 (uploaded 21 Jun 2007). Please use at very least
0.9.21.dfsg-5. Moreover, please import the delta of changes since then
to your package.

* There is a SVN repository for the packaging [2]. Please update that
and add it to your control file [3]

* In debian/rules, please remove the boilerplate blind text.

* At your choice, either document how to build a repacked tarball (you
need to remove the IETF files from the tarball as you probably know) in
debian/README.source [4] or make a get-orig-source [5] target (or both).

* I couldn't find the source for the PDF files you install from doc/
(the preferred form for modification that is). Please include it in your
source package, or remove it while repacking the tarball.

* Please add a DEP-3 header to your patches [6]. Also consider sending
it upstream, unless you did already.

* debian/copyright wrongly claims, the package would be subject to the
BSD-2-clause license. Actually it is 3-clause.



[1]  http://snapshot.debian.org/package/asn1c/0.9.21.dfsg-4/
[2] http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/collab-maint/deb-maint/asn1c/
[3]
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/best-pkging-practices.html#bpp-vcs
[4] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-readmesource
[5] http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#s-debianrules
[6] http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/
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Re: debian/rules stamp-* targets

2012-09-03 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 03.09.2012 18:55, The Wanderer wrote:
 I have not been able to find any documentation on these stamp-* targets,
 although searching has revealed that they or something like them appear
 to be
 (or to have been) used in a number of other packages as well. What are
 they used
 for, and how necessary are they?

They are entirely optional, in fact. It's a custom behavior to work
around issues with pseudo-phony targets which aren't declared as such
for some reason [1]. That's just one way (among many) to implement a
debian/rules file.

 There are deprecation warnings in the package which could be fixed
 either in a
 way which retains the stamp-build target or in a way which removes it.
 Which one
 would be more appropriate?

If it is your package, do it the way you like more. Modern rules files
(as in dh(1)) are typicially much easier to read.


[1]
http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/html_node/Phony-Targets.html#Phony-Targets


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Re: Re-inserting package with name change

2012-08-27 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 27.08.2012 12:34, Olе Streicher wrote:
 Shall I just ignore this error? Or shall I assign the bugs to the new
 (still unknown to the system) package name ftools-fv?

yes, in your case it is fine to ignore that error.

 Another question is whether I need to somehow propagate the name
 change. in debian/control, I have set Conflicts: fv; Replaces: fv
 Should I also set Provides: fv? This would pollute the package
 namespace again with a virtual package of this short name which was the
 main reason to change it. 

No, no special care is needed [*]. Technically you could even omit the
Conflicts/Replaces as fv wasn't part of Squeeze either. Having that said
it is a good idea to keep it for people who could have kept that package
installed since 2004 (which may, or may not still work). At very least
you can omit the relation for the release which is supposed to make it
into Jessie+1, if Jessie features your package with Conflicts/Replaces.

Providing fv does not make any sense unless there are packages which
depend on it (there must not), or people might be upgrading with a fv
package installed to hint apt but there is no support for upgrades
beyond one release at time.

[*] Your upload needs to clear NEW, however.

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Re: RFS: policyd-weight

2012-08-19 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 19.08.2012 12:38, Werner Detter wrote:
 I've recreated a new version of my package policyd-weight (previous version 
 0.1.15.2-2 was already
 uploaded to unstable. 

did you try to contact your previous sponsors? Could you reach Hauke?

 This version includes a little bugfix and updates standard versions from 3.9.2
 to 3.9.3. Hence I'm looking for a sponsor for my package policyd-weight

You don't try to get this into Testing, do you? I haven't looked at your
package yet, but this does not sound like something which is targeting
Testing at this stage. That's fine, of course, just telling you.

If nobody steps in, I may take care of it this week. By the way, did you
notice the RFS bug workflow [1]?

[1] http://mentors.debian.net/sponsors/rfs-howto

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Re: upstream upgrade capable of running in parallel with old version.

2012-08-12 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 12.08.2012 13:16, Paul Elliott wrote:
 ITP a whole new package? Change the control file to allow it?

Yes. Look at packages like Python, automake, the kenrel and so on. They
are installed from versioned packages like python2.6 and install
binaries like /usr/bin/python2.6.

Depending on your use case you may want to install a compatibility
symlink to the default version or you may consider using the
alternatives system (update-alternatives(8)).


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Re: Minutes from Getting your packages into Debian

2012-08-02 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 02.08.2012 05:07, PICCORO McKAY Lenz wrote:
 this stupid DM process only make debian packagin more slower to evolution,
 i have a problem uploading a debian mentors sig file and nobody respond and
 solves my problem

I cannot see how the DM process is related to sponsoring in the first
place. Actually, being a DM makes sponsoring unnecessary in many cases.

Having that said: Criticizing is easy, but do you have actual
suggestions how to improve?

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Re: Correct way to copy files to /home/$user?

2012-07-25 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 25.07.2012 17:21, adrelanos wrote:
 What is the correct way to copy files to /home/$user?

the answer is simple: Don't do it. There is no supported or predictable
way to get files into a user's home directory. Even less, it is
forbidden by policy to touch configuration files.

As a workaround you could install/divert your files when a user starts a
program, in your example xchat.

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Re: Taking over maintainership of gringotts

2012-07-23 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 23.07.2012 22:19, Bart Martens wrote:
 The package at mentors is marked needs sponsor = yes so an RFS bug is not
 really needed.

but it certainly won't hurt. Not too many people care about that flag
(you know, even less than about RFS bugs).


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Re: automatic removal of packages from mentors

2012-07-19 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 20.07.2012 01:47, Asheesh Laroia wrote:
 Curious to hear the thoughts of the current mentors.debian.net
 maintainers, especially on the reasoning behind the deletion, so I can
 better understand and see if I can come up with an alternative I like more.

well, packages consume space and resources. Disk space is not infinite
either. Opening the packages list in the browser already lasts a
substantial amount of time. That's because lots of data needs to be
retrieved for every package listing the more packages are in the database.

I do also wonder what the benefit to keep packages forever would be. 5
months is a lot of time to keep packages around. Packages can be
uploaded any time again, and we try to avoid deleting packages which are
in an active review process (yes, this needs to be improved i.e.
implemented).

Things change in Debian, packages change, packages may need an update
and someone who cares about. But we remove packages which weren't
touched or even sponsored over a long time. This is more of a problem of
Debian's sponsoring process than mentors.debian.net I'd say.




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Re: modifications by sponsors

2012-07-11 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 11.07.2012 13:34, Bart Martens wrote:
 Is it OK that a sponsor adds modifications to a sponsored package ?

I see it regularly that sponsors do little modifications of packages
before uploading them. They may fix spelling errors, fix formatting, do
cosmetic fixes and so on before uploading a package.

Typically they do so to save both parties some time, as they would like
to avoid the usual ping-pong game which goes like if you fix X, Y, Z I
will upload your package, wait for a response and a new package and
start looking again. Instead they just do such minor changes, upload and
send the sponsored people a debdiff/git patch or whatever.

Typically they do not add such changes to debian/changelog though and I
think that's all fine.

 Is it OK that a sponsor adds him/herself to Uploaders ?

That depends. Personally I did not have a reason to do so, but I know
some people do. While I think it is clearly the wrong thing to add
yourself to uploaders _just_ for sponsoring a package, there are cases
where it makes sense.
Imagine you are sponsoring a package because you are personally
interested to use it. Chances are you might find yourself to find some
bugs or other issues with it you would like to _fix_ yourself. Then it
makes sense that you are in Uploaders as well and you eventually form a
packaging team with your sponsoree.



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Re: freeze policy - open requests for sponsorship

2012-07-02 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 02.07.2012 17:06, Paul Wise wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Bart Martens wrote:
 
 Comments on these suggestions ?
 
 Perhaps use wheezy-ignore for stuff that shouldn't be in wheezy? I
 guess that might be stepping on the release team's tags, so maybe
 setting up usercategories and usertags for the sponsorship-requests
 metapackage would be good.

Indeed. Please do not set wheezy-ignore without permission from the
Release Team [1].

Having that said, one should note that uploads to unstable not targeting
Wheezy are acceptable during a freeze, but it does not make much sense.
Also the FTP team might not process NEW regularly during a freeze.

[1] http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#tags
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Re: Who maintains manpages.debian.net?

2012-06-29 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 29.06.2012 23:01, Martin Eberhard Schauer wrote:
 today I had a look at a section 3 manpage for unstable. I was
 offered an outdated version. Where is the right place to complain -
 to suggest importing an up to date version?

you could ask Javier, the maintainer [1] (CC:ed). Granted having contact
details on the home page directly would help a lot.


[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianNetDomains

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Re: How to rebuild binary package to fix bugs?

2012-06-28 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

letting alone the problem beyond, as I am not qualified to comment on that:


On 28.06.2012 13:13, Satoru KURASHIKI wrote:
 In such case, what do I prepare for NMU patch?
 Or, are there another option to rebuild package on the archive?

you do not need to prepare binNMU patch. A binNMU is built from the
same source package and thus does not need a patch at all. Just someone
who triggers a rebuild.

See [1] for instructions to request a binNMU. Having that said I find it
strange - to say the least - that reverse dependencies were being
removed without triggering a binNMU back then. That's why the Release
Team does transitions. Just to avoid such things.


[1] http://release.debian.org/wanna-build.txt

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Re: How to build flavored package if upstream doesn't grok OOT build

2012-06-23 Thread Arno Töll
Hi Marc,

On 23.06.2012 15:17, Marc Haber wrote:
 How can I build two flavors of a program with different configure
 parameters if upstream does not properly handle out-of-tree building
 and I do not want to ditch dh?

You copy the source tree as a preparation and recurse into all flavors
for the configure/build/(install) stages. Take a look at the Apache 2.2
source package for a (complex) example.

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Re: Bug#677277: lists.debian.org: new list: sponsorship-reque...@lists.debian.org

2012-06-22 Thread Arno Töll
(bouncing to debian-mentors, as I forgot to CC the list)

Hi,

On 12.06.2012 23:43, Michael Gilbert wrote:
 I'll just try this selectricity poll for now so we don't get billions
 of votes here:

 http://selectricity.org/quickvote/debianrfslist

what's the status here? After Bart enjoyed us 100+ mails today, I think
quite a few of us recall this bug again. :-)

Also your poll seems to support our/my argument after a reasonable
voting period.

(Just for the archives: Quite a few messages in this bug are missing as
they were sent to the debian-mentors mailing list only.)


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Bug#677277: lists.debian.org: new list: sponsorship-reque...@lists.debian.org

2012-06-12 Thread Arno Töll
Package: lists.debian.org
Severity: wishlist

Hello,

upon rough consensus and after discussing with formorer [1] I'd like to to 
request
a new list dedicated to sponsorship requests. The list would be used to manage
sponsorship-requests bug traffic as a pseudo-package owner [2].

Name

At your choice, sponsorship-requests@l.d.o or
debian-sponsorship-requests@l.d.o. I guess, I'd prefer the former.

Rationale

The rationale is denoted in the mailing list discussion referenced under 
[1].
The basic idea is to restrict automated bot traffic to the debian-mentors
mailing list to reduce the signal/noise ratio.

In the end, sponsorship-requests should be used as a no-discussion (beyond
actual bug discussions) web-archive mailing list. That is, we would like to
tell apart mentoring questions (help me with packaging problem) from bug
control traffic (see #658498) and bug notifications. For the sake of
completeness you, as a listmaster, demand that every traffic sent to a list
actually ends up there. Yet, debian-mentors would be subscribed via PTS for
bug traffic _only_.

Therefore, to make a long story short:
* debian-mentors: leave as is, subscribe to bug reports for the the
  sponsorship-requests pseudo-package.
* sponsorship-requests: send _all_ sponsorship-requests bug traffic there
  (including control messages) and configure that list as a package owner
* sponsorship-requests pseudo-package: Change packge owner to
  sponsorship-requests@l.d.o. Don, do you want me to file a separate bug for
  that, assuming you create the requested list?

Long description

Track upload requests for packages about to be sponsored into Debian 
archives


(feel free to change/improve with a native speaker hat on)

Category

Developers

Subscription Policy

open

Post Policy

open

(or, at your choice moderated, as we expect no posters but the BTS, and 
humans
should be redirected to debian-mentors instead)

Web Archive

yes


[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2012/05/msg00459.html
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=sponsorship-requests

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Re: GPL and OpenSSL

2012-06-04 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 04.06.2012 23:07, José Luis Segura Lucas wrote:
 Is this md5 function compatible with GPL license? If it isn't, are there
 any other implementation compatible with GPL2?

No it is not. The OpenSSL crypto routines are under the same terms as
the whole OpenSSL project. The OpenSSL license is not compatible to any
GPL software which makes the whole approach a GPL violation. This is a
problem on the GPL code side, however. Thus you have two alternatives:

a) Do not link against OpenSSL but GnuTLS
b) Tell the upstream authors of your software (i.e. those who provide
the GPL software) to make an OpenSSL linking exception [1][2]

I find it quite strange that the upstream authors are aware of this
problem but do not care to violate their own licensing terms by the way
(this makes alternative b) quite appealing to them I guess).

[1] http://people.gnome.org/~markmc/openssl-and-the-gpl
[2] http://www.openssl.org/support/faq.html#LEGAL2

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Re: GPL and OpenSSL

2012-06-04 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 04.06.2012 23:27, Игорь Пашев wrote:
 It could be replaced via Debain patch.
 AFAIK something similar is done for Apache (or APR?)

Both, Apache and APR is licensed under the terms of the Apache 2.0
Software License which is GPL compatible. There is no need to do such
things for ASF software.

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Re: GPL and OpenSSL

2012-06-04 Thread Arno Töll
On 04.06.2012 23:41, Arno Töll wrote:
 Software License which is GPL compatible. There is no need to do such
^ that should read: OpenSSL
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Re: Getting rid of control messages revisited

2012-06-03 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,
Jakub asked me to forward his comment from IRC to thhis list (where he's
not subscribed anymore as some might remember):

14:14  jwilk IME the problem with mailing lists that nobody reads is
that from time to time some misguided people will post to them. Worse,
they'll expect that somebody answers them...
14:15  jwilk But yeah, separate list + forwarding bugs to d-mentors is
certainly better than status quo.


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Re: hardening with non-C compilers

2012-05-30 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 27.05.2012 15:19, Paul Gevers wrote:
 Can somebody point me at relevant information about hardening of non-c
 based compilers (in Debian). I have read
 http://wiki.debian.org/Hardening but as far as I can see it assumes C.
 Something specifically about FPC/Lazarus would be even better of course.

since nobody else seems to answer, I'll share my no-knowledge: Pascal
binaries are not using the libc and and are not using the ABI calling
conventions all C programs do use.

Therefore, Pascal binaries can't make use of gcc stack protectors, as
Pascal programs might simply be using another stack layout. Other
problems like format string vulnerabilities are specific to C anyway.

Hence you can't just enable hardening flags and you're done. This is
something which needs implemented in your pascal compiler if necessary.

There are, however, libraries in Pascal which are interfacing with C
libraries (including libc I think). It needs to be carefully checked if
hardened stacks (e.g. stack canaries) are compatible with that.


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Re: RFS: flashcache

2012-05-27 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 27.05.2012 08:12, Liang Guo wrote:
 When the new package is ready, I'd like to sponsor your package.

I have currently no intentions to maintain flashcache anymore and
everyone else interested to pick it up may do so. The package was ready
to use in November, so updating it to a newer version shouldn't be much
of a deal. See RFP #635504 for details and [1] for the corresponding
repository.

If you care enough, you can just pick it up yourself. I do not need a
sponsor anymore by the way.


[1] http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/flashcache.git
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Re: RFS: new powertop version

2012-05-27 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 26.05.2012 20:11, Julian Wollrath wrote:
 Also, I'm not sure about new upstream releases via NMU.  Have you offered to
 co-maintain ?
 No I have not, because I was under the impression, that it is not possible 
 for 
 a non Debian developer to co-maintain a package. But if this impression was 
 wrong I would willingly offer to co-maintain.
 
 Since I am new to all of this, please accept my apologies if I offended 
 somebody with the approach I have taken, which now seems kind of rude in my 
 view.

Everyone - including you - can maintain packages. You are not only
allowed to co-maintain them, but also all alone. You still need a Debian
Developer to sponsor your packages, but that person is not responsible
for the package.

Having that said, it is fine to NMU a package when doing so fixes two
release critical bugs and there is no need to apologize if that makes
Debian better(tm).

Co-maintaining the package is even better, but this requires an
acknowledge by the current maintainer(s) and if they are not responsive
that's not going to help you.

Therefore I would suggest you, that you can try to get in touch with
Patrick and offer your help with the package but you still prepare a NMU
meanwhile. If you obey the NMU rules [*] I do not see a problem in doing so.

[*] See the document bremner linked. Basically you are supposed to make
minimally invasive changes only. Do not change packaging style, do not
do cosmetic changes which are a matter of taste and try to keep the
differences low.

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Re: RFS: flashcache

2012-05-27 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 27.05.2012 10:18, Liang Guo wrote:
 Do you still use it ? 

to some extent: yes. I was using it mostly as a file system read cache
but I found kFreeBSD + ZFS does a much better job.

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Getting rid of control messages revisited

2012-05-24 Thread Arno Töll
Hello,

some (most?) of us found the signal/noise ratio on the debian-mentors
list significantly worse since we switched to a BTS based workflow.

Having that said, I am sitting next to formorer, one of our list
masters, on the LinuxTag right now and we ended up to discuss this
problem again (c.f. #658498). He still thinks it would be a bad idea to
filter out control messages, but he made an alternative offer which
sounds like a good deal to me:

What about creating a list as owner of the pseudo-package dedicated to
BTS traffic (including control messages) named
sponsorship-requests@l.d.o. Furthermore, the mentors list should still
get bug traffic (only). Therefore we would subscribe that list via PTS
subscription to bug reports only [*]. How does that sound to you?


[*] jwilk looked into the code and it /seems/ to me, the bts
subscription does not contain control messages, whereas bts-control
control does. Can anyone verify this?

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Re: termit : hijack or adoption with permission

2012-05-23 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,
On 23.05.2012 18:15, Bart Martens wrote:
 Did you get permission from Tomas Fasth to adopt the package ?
 http://packages.qa.debian.org/t/termit.html
 http://mentors.debian.net/package/termit
 

he did (somewhat). See [1].

[1] 4fbc0bcc.6050...@gmail.com /
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/05/msg01057.html

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Re: resiprocate/hardening-no-fortify-functions problems

2012-05-21 Thread Arno Töll
On 21.05.2012 17:02, Daniel Pocock wrote:
 After building, I check the binaries, it seems to think they were
 hardened, but some intermittent issues with `Fortify Source functions'
 and lintian (on mentors) complains

The hardening-check tool (which is used by Lintian, too) is known to
emit false positives. See #673112 for an up to date discussion for that
problem.


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Bug#659522: RFS: prelink

2012-05-21 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 21.05.2012 22:51, Daniel Martí wrote:
 I did not know we could have orig's packaged in any other format other
 than .tar.gz. I suppose renaming it to prelink-20111012.orig.tar.bz2
 would be enough? All the patching is done via *.debian.tar.gz as usual.

Yes, you should just use a properly named, untouched upstream tarball.
Regarding your question, read dpkg-source(1):


   Format: 3.0 (quilt)
   A source package in this format contains at least an original
tarball (.orig.tar.ext where ext can be gz, bz2, lzma and xz) and a
debian tarball (.debian.tar.ext). It can also contain additional
original tarballs
   (.orig-component.tar.ext).  component can only contain
alphanumeric characters and dashes (-).




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Re: Workflow documentation [was: Re: Bug#665980: RFS: evilvte/0.5.1-1 [updated package]]

2012-05-20 Thread Arno Töll
Hi Sven,


On 20.05.2012 16:21, Sven Hoexter wrote:
 Arno: Could you link that page from mentors.d.n?
 I'd add it in mentors.d.n/qa in the Getting
 started section as What does the current workflow
 look like?

we do already include our own copy of these guidelines at [1], which is
also shown (mostly) filled-out to sponsorees for their respective packages.

Of course we could still add another reference to it in the QA section.


[1] http://mentors.debian.net/sponsors/rfs-howto


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Re: Maintainer of GNS3 Missing-in-Action, I volunteer

2012-05-15 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 16.05.2012 00:41, Alexey Eromenko wrote:
 GNS3 package is Debian has not been updated in the last year, and the
 Debian maintainer, Erik Wenzel, went MIA. (doesn't answer to emails
 for last few months)

are there any traces of your approaches, e.g. in bug reports publicly
available? Having that said, Erik uploaded a package just recently [1]
as Charles rightfully said.


 Uploaded my packages to:
 http://forum.gns3.net/post15311.html

Can you please use a dgetable location at least?

[1] http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/aggregate/news/20120501T004711Z.html
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Bug#670176: RFS: kismet/2011.03.R2-1 [ITA]

2012-05-14 Thread Arno Töll
Hi Nick,

this is a shallow review of your package. Unfortunately I am lacking
experience with CDBS packages and your package is quite complex. Hence I
am unsure if I will sponsor it eventually. That said, I'd love to see
kismet in shape in Debian.

* Please clarify the license of these files in your debian/copyright file:
 + apple80211.h: the header states: From MacStumbler, which is under GPL
 + extra/*: Lacks copyright header. Given all other files do, I suspect
this is by purpose which means it is not known whether these files are
distributable.
 + Likewise for packaging/dpkg* (I would also hope, this script is
burned with fire)
 + Likewise for ruby/*. No fire this time, though

Consider repackaging the tarball if you cannot find any clarifcation
regarding these files as they mostly seem irrelevant to me. Moreover,
please note you are linking against OpenSSL but the package is licensed
under the terms of the GPL-2. However, only a few files do have a
OpenSSL linking exception. Note, the GPL is not compatible to the
OpenSSL license [1]. Ask upstream for clarification on that matter.


* Where does this package come from? Did you base your work upon the
Ubuntu package? I'm asking because of kismet (2008-05-R1-4.3build1)
precise; urgency=low for the previous upload. If the only difference to
the Debian version is this Ubuntu binNMU, please remove this changelog
stanza.

* What is debian/kismet-plugins-restricted.install? These refer to a
binary package you don't build. Were they split to a non-free package
previously? If yes, what did change to make this split unnecessary?
License of the plugin-ptw/* stuff seems DFSG free to me (but it is
listed in kismet-plugins-restricted as
debian/tmp/usr/lib/kismet/aircrack-kismet.so I think).

* Please fill out copyright headers of debian/po/templates.pot properly.
While you are it, the po translation files are not complete. Moreover,
do not prompt in question style in debconf templates. Formulate the data
you want to get from the user in an open way (give me $foo:).

* You do not depend on adduser, but you use it in your postinst
maintainer script. Same for libcap2-bin and setcap. Moreover, the
maintainer script does not look very sane. See [2] and policy §6.5 [3]
to see how maintainer scripts are invoked and change it to something
properly. I am referring to the way you are determining whether you are
upgrading. Do also set -e in your maintainer scripts.

* Likewise you are blindly adding users provided by user input to
usermod like this:

 for x in ${RET}; do
usermod -a -G $GROUP $x
 done

You should at least verify whether the supplied user(s) exists before
passing random inputs to usermod.

* The postrm script looks acceptable, but note it is consensus not to
remove users anymore once created. There is no safe and sane way to
determine whether the site administrator hijacked the created group on
purpose.

* Maybe you should bump the debhelper compatibility to v8.

* Consider writing man pages for your binaries lacking these.

* Lintian says:
E: kismet: su-wrapper-without--c usr/share/applications/kismet.desktop
su-to-root
E: su-wrapper-without--c
N:
N:   The menu item command or desktop file uses an su wrapper such as
N:   su-to-root without the -c flag. This is a syntax error.
N:
N:   Refer to the su-to-root(1) manual page for details.
N:
N:   Severity: important, Certainty: certain
N:
N:   Check: menu-format, Type: binary




[1] http://www.openssl.org/support/faq.html#LEGAL2
[2] http://wiki.debian.org/MaintainerScripts
[3]
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-maintainerscripts.html#s-mscriptsinstact
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Bug#672394: RFS: ipset/6.12-1 -- administration tool for kernel IP sets

2012-05-14 Thread Arno Töll
tags 672394 + moreinfo
owner 672394 !
thanks

Hi Neutrom,

this is a review of your package ipset.

* Do not set DM-Upload-Allowed: yes on your own. It's your sponsor's
domain to do so. It's hard enough to find sponsors as is, no need to
scare off even more potential sponsors by adding DMUA for packages which
show up on debian-mentors without prior agreement.

* You declare the debhelper compat[ibility] to be 9, but you build
depend on debhelper (= 9). Please use a version which actually
supports the finalized level 9. That is 9.20120115.

* Do not start with uppercase characters in libipset-dev's description.
You did it correctly for the other binary package, though.

* Why do you use dh_autoreconf? You do not patch automake stuff and a
brief test seems to confirm it is not needed.

* Are you sure about the location of the binary in the file system?
iptables is in /sbin, why do you install ipset to /usr/sbin?


I am willing to sponsor your package if you fix the fist two concerns at
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Bug#672133: [pkg-bacula-devel] Bug#672133: RFS: webacula/5.5.1-1 [ITP]

2012-05-14 Thread Arno Töll
Hi Luca,

On 14.05.2012 13:48, Luca Capello wrote:
 Changes since the last upload:

   * Initial release (Closes: #614554).

 I would say that you should close this bug as well ;-)

 Should i close it now or only after package will be builded and
 uploaded?
 
 I would add both numbers to the line above, so when the package will be
 uploaded both bugs are *automatically* closed.

note, by convention we discourage sponsorees to close their own RFS bugs
in debian/changelog. If someone (e.g. you) uploads the package it's not
the maintainer to close the bug by uploading the package, but the
sponsor (i.e. you).

Thus, we would like sponsors to close the bug along their notice that
they have uploaded the package which the sponsor is likely going to send
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Re: is wheezy frozen already?

2012-05-14 Thread Arno Töll
On 15.05.2012 00:26, Charles Plessy wrote:
 when the NEW queue is long, this leaves us some time to make a pre-review to
 ease the work of the FTP team, by reducing the number of errors they have to
 deal with.

how would you do that, given packages in NEW aren't publicly accessible
on purpose?

Yes, I realize debian/copyright is shown on [1], but the most time
consuming part of NEW processing (I guess) is to verify whether a
debian/copyright file actually reflects the state being of a package.
You know it's not like people write into debian/copyright sorry, not
distributable by Debian.

Your idea only makes sense for packages going through mentors.d.n where
you can actually access them beforehand I fear.

[1] http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html
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Bug#667902: RFS: downtimed/0.5-2

2012-04-25 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

is there still anything left to come from you?

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Re: how to adopt a non-orphaned package?

2012-04-25 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 25.04.2012 11:28, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
 Sadly this is exactly the case when inactive maintainer had his packages
 sponsored so there is no information in database.

you can try to NMU it as a start. There are lots of fixes and patches
available in the BTS which are worth to be included in Debian. Just obey
the usual NMU rules for now (i.e. don't do things like Jari does in
#668077 for your targeted package which is sadly what he regularly does).

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Re: Modifications of the changelog.

2012-04-21 Thread Arno Töll
On 21.04.2012 09:35, Charles Plessy wrote:
 are there concrete problems caused by modifying previous changelog entries ?  
 I
 do it from time to time, of course not when the diff has to be carefully
 inspected by others as it would be a distraction, and I have not found it
 causing breakages.

The whole point of a changelog is a time dependent frozen point of view
at your package. Once you released a version of a package, you should
consider it untouchable as it would confuse people _a lot_ if you force
them to read a full backlog of changes every time they upgrade because
you /could/ have modified more than the latest entry.

Generally speaking it may be ok-ish in important cases to change
previous entry if you restrict yourself to spelling fixes and formating
changes, but it is completely unacceptable [to me, at least] to
reformulate entries, add entries, remove entries and such.

Of course that's nothing which should be advocated on a mailing lists
where the purpose of it is to assist people to make proper, well made
and clean packages.

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Bug#669609: sponsorship-requests: NMU mod-gnutls/0.5.10-1.1

2012-04-21 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 21.04.2012 09:22, Bas van den Dikkenberg wrote:
 Fixed the isues and uploaded a new version

it looks all fine now. Please file a NMU bug so that I can sponsor your
upload afterwards. You can use the nmudiff tool to assist you filing
such a bug. I would upload to DELAYED/7.

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Bug#669609: sponsorship-requests: NMU mod-gnutls/0.5.10-1.1

2012-04-20 Thread Arno Töll
owner !
tags +moreinfo
thanks

Hi Bastiaan,

please rework your changelog. Only by reading the changelog I wouldn't
know why it would be appropriate to NMU it. Did you try to contact the
maintainer? The problem was reported yesterday.

On 20.04.2012 14:11, Bastiaan Franciscus van den Dikkenberg wrote:
   * Fix default-tls file for apache Added default-tls file
 (Closes: #558232)
   * Fix configure: *** memcache library not found.
 added build-depensie to libapr-memcache-dev (Closes: #497097)
   * apache2-dev is releplaced by apache2-threaded-dev

There is a typo. Moreover, you should mention the two bugs this fixes.

   * upgrade to standards-version 3.9.3

don't do this in a NMU.


Please send an updated package and I'll see what I can do, given I broke
it at the first place.


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Bug#669609: sponsorship-requests: NMU mod-gnutls/0.5.10-1.1

2012-04-20 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 20.04.2012 22:02, Bas van den Dikkenberg wrote:
 The nmu is about #497097

I realize that, but I won't NMU a package because of a less severe bug.
I will, however, because you accidentally fix a serious bug along (but
you don't mention this in the changelog, see #667626 and #669476) unless
the maintainer steps in first.


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Bug#669609: sponsorship-requests: NMU mod-gnutls/0.5.10-1.1

2012-04-20 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 20.04.2012 22:27, Bas van den Dikkenberg wrote:
 Do you want me the change the changelog also ?

Yes, of course you should mention things you fix in an upload. Moreover,
you shouldn't push the standards version in a NMU.


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Bug#669609: sponsorship-requests: NMU mod-gnutls/0.5.10-1.1

2012-04-20 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

now, that you've updated your package I finally reviewed it. These are
my comments:

* Do not set urgency=high. There is no point in doing so unless you fix
a critical security issue.

* There is an invalid changelog.dch file left over. Please remove it.

* Do not modify previous changelog entries, especially not in NMUs. I
mean this hunk:

 mod-gnutls (0.5.10-1) unstable; urgency=low

   * New upstream release (Closes: #602957)

- -- Jack Bates ms...@freezone.co.uk  Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:38:29 -0700
+ -- Jack Bates ms...@freezone.co.uk  Tue, 19 Jul 2011 09:38:29 -0700
+

* It's acceptable to update the DEP-5 URL since you are going to work on
the package anyway. However, mention this in your changelog.

* In the default-tls file, please remove extra white spaces (line 1,
line 4, line 41 and line 42)

* Remove the /doc alias and associated configuration from the
default-tls file. See DSA 2452-1 for more background on that

* Do not hard code the error log path in the very same file. Instead use
${APACHE_LOG_DIR} as a prefix. Likewise for the access.log.


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Re: [opensuse-buildservice] how to create a debian watch file for tarballs hosted on the OBS.

2012-04-16 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 16.04.2012 16:35, Adrian Schröter wrote:
 Am Samstag, 14. April 2012, 20:01:49 schrieb Paul Elliott:

 How to create a watch file for a tarball found on the OBS (Open Build 
 Service).
 
 What is a watch file? Where is it defined and what exactly is it supposed to 
 do?

A watch file is a file within a Debian source package which is
describing based on URL patterns where upstream release tarballs can be
found and retrieved. This is useful to track upstream development and
get notified if a new release was published.

The file is being read by uscan(1) [1] and other Debian core services.


[1] http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=uscan
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Re: Upload to mentors.debina.net disappeared without a trace.

2012-04-16 Thread Arno Töll
On 16.04.2012 23:26, Paul Elliott wrote:
   Uploading libreoffice-converter_3.3-2.debian.tar.gz: Traceback (most
   recent call last): File /usr/bin/dput, line 926, in module
...
   File /usr/lib/python2.7/socket.py, line 553, in create_connection
   
 for res in getaddrinfo(host, port, 0, SOCK_STREAM):
 socket.gaierror: [Errno -2] Name or service not known

err, as much as I like to get the blame, but /this/ is not a problem
we're responsible for. Both, HTTP and FTP uploads are generally working
and your problem appears to be local. The problem is either dput
(although I couldn't reproduce it) or there is something broken with
your network connection.


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Re: Upload to mentors.debina.net disappeared without a trace.

2012-04-15 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 15.04.2012 09:39, Paul Wise wrote:
 Please consider using HTTP to upload since it results in immediate feedback.

just for the record: That's not true anymore. Both, FTP and HTTP uploads
are simply queued and being imported by a dedicated importer now. Thus
the upload hash we used to use is not used anymore either.



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Re: Bug#667902: RFS: downtimed/0.5-2

2012-04-10 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 10.04.2012 13:15, Mats Erik Andersson wrote:
 I have not
 used the switch --export from dpkg-buildflags. Thus version 1.15.7
 is the correct level.

You are right. I wasn't looking careful enough.

 and in addition insserv is never admitting the new starting links
 in /etc/rc{2,3,4,5}.d/S??downtimed. Ideas to resolve this? 

In my experience you can hint insserv by using X-Start-Before/Stop-After
if the usual dependencies do not seem to result in the order you hope to
get.

 I want to keep this in order
 to have the service detect a booted system at the earliest possible
 time.

Yes, your explanation makes sense and I agree to get downtimed to be
started as early as possible. I was just hoping to avoid the override, I
guess you will try to address that a bit more, let me know if you do not
find a way to achieve that in proper LSB headers.

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Bug#667902: RFS: downtimed/0.5-2

2012-04-08 Thread Arno Töll
owner 667902 !
tags 667902 +moreinfo
thanks

Hi Mats Erik,

as promised a took a look at your package. I am willing to sponsor you
if you address these corrections:

* You use dpkg-buildflags but you didn't declare a versioned
build-dependency against dpkg-dev which explicitly supports --export
*FLAGS (1.16.1 I think). My rule of thumb is to declare
build-dependencies against build-essential packages if you use features
not satisfied in stable. Otherwise you break backports and such without
notice.

* Please document why you are overriding
init.d-script-possible-missing-stop. For the other Lintian tag you
override I can see your point, but I personally wouldn't bother since
you require $remote_fs in start anyway. If you want, that's fair enough.

* Not sure about your rationale to override dh_installinit either. The
whole point of LSB headers is to determine the dependencies out of them.

Otherwise you did good work as I used to know from you.

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Bug#667902: RFS: downtimed/0.5-2

2012-04-07 Thread Arno Töll
Hi,

On 07.04.2012 12:42, Mats Erik Andersson wrote:
downtimed  - monitor of downtime, shutdown, and crashes

this sounds quite interesting. I'll likely have a look at this at some
point this weekend unless someone beats me on it or Sven finds time.

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Re: ITAs on packages you intend to remove

2012-04-03 Thread Arno Töll
Hi Adam,

On 03.04.2012 11:37, Adam Borowski wrote:
 Should I bother you with sponsoring an upload fixing the FTBFS (with the
 package likely going away soon), file a RM immediately, or ignore it for
 now?  

A removal is not conclusive. A package can be reintroduced anytime if
someone cares enough for it. Thus I'd suggest you to file a RM bug,
point out reasons why the package should be removed and stop bother
(don't forget to update the WNPP bug).

If someone cares enough he can re-upload the package later as said.


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Re: Bug#667092: RFS: tcng/10b-4 [RC, QA]

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Hi Adam,

On 04.04.2012 00:50, Adam Borowski wrote:
 * Orphan the package.

if your intention is to orphan the package you should set the
maintainer to Debian QA Group packa...@qa.debian.org, too.

I didn't look any further but this was drawing my attention.

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Re: Signing a .deb later?

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Hi Christopher,

On 04.04.2012 01:01, Christopher Howard wrote:
 So, my first question: Is there some nifty command or trick to 
 (properly) GPG sign a .deb package /after/ I've finished making
 it? [..] but I'm not sure what the proper procedure would be.


you can use debsign(1) to sign packages. However, you seem to
misunderstand some concepts. .debs aren't signed, the meta-data is
(e.g. the .dsc and .changes files).

If you want to publish these to a private repository you offer, this
signature is irrelevant to apt and such, instead the archive-wide
meta-data needs to be signed (there are tools like reprepro which can
help you to achieve that). This can, but does not need to be same key.


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Re: Bug#667092: RFS: tcng/10b-4 [RC, QA]

2012-04-03 Thread Arno Töll
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Hi Adam,

On 04.04.2012 01:19, Adam Borowski wrote:
 Lintian now complains: W: tcng source: changelog-should-mention-qa 
 but this seems wrong -- it's this very upload that is orphaning the
 package; lintian has no real way to know that, though.

Just add * QA Upload to the changelog entry to make Lintian shut up.



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Bug#665823: RFS: libapache2-mod-geoip/1.2.7-1

2012-03-26 Thread Arno Töll
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Hello Nigel,

On 26.03.2012 14:05, Nigel Jones wrote:
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package libapache2-mod-geoip

thanks for your contribution. As I can't sponsor packages, take the
following hints as a review only:

First, let me inform you, you should prepare another version of your
package which works with Apache 2.4, available in experimental. That
one is going to replace Apache 2.2 in Debian Sid pretty soon. However,
this breaks all module packages and they need some source tweaks.
Please read [1][2][3] for more information about this as this is going
to affect you really soon.

I think it would be best to get this version into Wheezy now, and
focus on the 2.4 module package afterwards, perhaps even by doing an
upload to experimental.

mod_geoip probably does not work without GeoIP database installed. You
should recommend the geoip-database at least. I realize there are
proprietary databases available, thus my suggestion to use a weaker
recommends constraint.

Do you have any public version control system to maintain your
package? If yes, add Vcs-Browser and Vcs-(Git|Svn|...) fields to your
control file.

In your maintainer script you should call a2enmod/a2dismod with the -q
argument. And while you're at it you could perhaps safe some CPU
cycles by changing the shell to /bin/sh (you need to avoid bashisms
then of course).

Your debian/rules file looks fairly ok, but wasn't updated in this
century. Maybe upgrade to the newer short dh format which makes it
much less probably that you're forgetting something or your package
breaks in a unforeseeable future.

Maybe you could also omit the last sentence in the package description
as we're not shipping anything but Apache 2 since almost a decade or so.


[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/03/msg00013.html
[2] http://wiki.debian.org/Apache/PackagingFor24
[3]
http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-apache/apache2.git;a=blob;f=debian/PACKAGING;hb=next

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Re: Bug#665823: RFS: libapache2-mod-geoip/1.2.7-1

2012-03-26 Thread Arno Töll
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Hi Nigel,

On 27.03.2012 00:52, Nigel Jones wrote:
 The database stanzas are commented out completely (and I'm not 
 going to change this behaviour), and not having them installed
 will not cause issues for Apache installations.

Well, but letting it commented out or not, mod_geoip relies on that
that database and not having any database around makes mod_geoip a
void no-op module. That should be expressed by means of package
relations.

I guess that could be a fairly unsettled user experience otherwise.
Everything else I mentioned are fairly nitpicking suggestions I admit.
Moreover you can ignore me anyway, as you don't need to convince me as
I can't sponsor you after all. :)

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Bug#665823: RFS: libapache2-mod-geoip/1.2.7-1

2012-03-26 Thread Arno Töll
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Hi Nigel,

On 27.03.2012 00:52, Nigel Jones wrote:
 The database stanzas are commented out completely (and I'm not 
 going to change this behaviour), and not having them installed will
 not cause issues for Apache installations.
Well, but letting it commented out or not, mod_geoip relies on that
that database and not having any database around makes mod_geoip a
void no-op module. That should be expressed by means of package
relations.

I guess that could be a fairly unsettled user experience otherwise.
Everything else I mentioned are fairly nitpicking suggestions I admit.
Moreover you can ignore me anyway, as you don't need to convince me as
I can't sponsor you after all. :)

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Re: How to provide a helper script to be sourced by maintainer scripts

2012-03-25 Thread Arno Töll
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Hi Malte,

On 25.03.2012 14:29, Malte Forkel wrote:
 Actually, I had read those before my post. I'm afraid I still don't
 see where they describe how to handle an extra script like the
 one I'm thinking about.

Well you covered the problems pretty well already. To use such a
library, it must be guaranteed to be present on your system. You can
achieve that by depending (or even pre-depending if you need
preinst/prerm scripts) but there is no guarantee at all for
postrm/postinst scripts.

Once you realized that, you can think how to make it available to your
package. There your solution to depend on another package sounds
feasible (and, well, over-engineered).

As another alternative which comes me in mind is a pseudo-shared
library. You would put the common functions into
debian/maintscripts-common and copy its contents at build time to a
defined position in your maintainer script (e.g. just like debhelper
does with #DEBHELPER#).


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Re: How to provide a helper script to be sourced by maintainer scripts

2012-03-25 Thread Arno Töll
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Hi,

On 25.03.2012 15:55, Malte Forkel wrote:
 I know that one of the problems with debhelper is that everyone
 would like to see a program added to it to handle some
 special-purpose thing (http://kitenet.net/~joey/code/debhelper/).
 Could it be that dh_maintinsert is something that at least has not
 been suggested before?

Ask Joeyh :)

I could imagine dh_installdeb could be taught to parse such a magic
line in addition to #DEBHELPER#, but that's up to Joey, really.

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Re: A Review Mentor team

2012-03-15 Thread Arno Töll
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Hi Thomas,

On 15.03.2012 18:50, Thomas Goirand wrote:
 A sponsor would, on his side, select what type of tags he is
 interested in. For me for example, I'd be selecting server type of
 software, so I'd for example select system::server. Then I would
 receive on my mail all request for sponsoring server related RFS
 only, saving me the loss of time browsing -mentors which is flooded
 with X-Window / GUI software that I care less about.

that's exactly what we're working on. Or rather: We'd like to work on.
See [1] and [2][3]. Other than that I've been working on consolidating
sponsoring guidelines [4] to allow DD's to give certain preferences of
packages they care for.

Of course we have many people to improve the Debexpo code base, but
less manpower ...

[1]
http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2012/Projects#Semantic_Package_Review_Interface_for_mentors.debian.net
[2]
https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=313252group_id=100127atid=413115
[3]
https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=313253group_id=100127atid=413115
[4] http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/7996/bootstrap40.png

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