Re: Question about blocked package to testing

2020-04-03 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Dear Elias,

Le 03/04/2020 à 02:50, Elías Alejandro a écrit :
> Hello all
> I have a question about a package which have a delayed transition
> to testing. Gpick package has fixed under unstable a bug related with
> python3 migration but it's blocked because of regression.[1]
> -Do you know how to fix this regression block? How can I test
>  under a local environment?

You can (and probably should) build your package using sbuild and
configure it to run autopkgtest after build.

when sbuild is set-up, you can also run autopkgtest manually in its schroot.

Your test tries to open a display. This is not possible on the build and
test infrastructure (the machines are headless). You have two options:

  - skip this test ;

  - run this test within a virtual X server. I do this in Yorick. See:

https://salsa.debian.org/science-team/yorick/-/blob/master/debian/tests/control

The test depends on package xvfb and the test command is wrapped in a
call to xvfb-run.

> -Should I do a new upload version to fix it? or just fix it under salsa?

You need to upload it.

> -Under build system it's fine [2] but with salsa-ci pipeline[3] it fails.
>  Do you know why?

Is the test run during build ?


> 
> [1] https://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=gpick
> [2] https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=gpick
> [3] https://salsa.debian.org/elias-guest/gpick/pipelines/120059

Regards, Thibaut.



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Re: OpenMPI rpath entries (Was: question on binary-or-shlib-defines-rpath)

2017-01-19 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 19/01/2017 à 12:20, James Cowgill a écrit :
> On a separate note: does this interfere with the alternatives system
> which openmpi currently has? If an rpath is used, it will override any
> libraries in the default linker search path so even if the mpi
> alternative is changed, many applications will still use libmpi from
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/openmpi/lib.

This is as it should be. The two alternative implementations (openmpi
and mpich) are not binary-compatible.

Regards, Thibaut.



Re: as upstream - Makes sense to run 'make clean' when running 'make all'?

2017-01-04 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 04/01/2017 à 19:20, Patrick Schleizer a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> as upstream, does it make sense to run 'make clean' when running 'make all'?
> 
> Would that be considered good or bad? Any convention on that?
> 
> Best regards,
> Patrick
> 

Dear Patrick,

This is not `good'. It makes some sort of sense if the dependency
tracking is so broken that you need to run `make clean' anyway whenever
you touch a source file, but even in that case, as upstream, I would not
do it. What comes closest to a specification is:
 
https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Standard-Targets.html#Standard-Targets
which does not even answer your question.

In any case, upstream has the last say and can do as they see fit. As a
Debian maintainer, one can use a build stamp in her debian/rules file if
that helps for her workflow, to keep track of whether the code has been
built already, something like:

build: build-stamp

build-stamp:
$(MAKE)
touch build-stamp

clean:
rm -f build-stamp
$(MAKE) clean

Doing this in a dh-friendly manner is left as an exercise to the reader.

Regards, Thibaut.



Re: Why is tk8.4 removal triggering autoremoval messages of not depending packages at this point in time (Was: staden is marked for autoremoval from testing)

2016-12-31 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Dear Andreas,

Le 31/12/2016 à 08:23, Andreas Tille a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> On Sat, Dec 31, 2016 at 04:40:32AM +, Debian testing autoremoval watch 
> wrote:
>> staden 2.0.0+b11-2 is marked for autoremoval from testing on 2017-01-29
>>
>> It (build-)depends on packages with these RC bugs:
>> 734837: tk8.4: Time to remove from testing
> 
> Staden Build-Depends: tk-dev (without any version) and the binary
> package Depends: libtk8.6 (>= 8.6.0) so I do not understand this
> autoremoval message in principle and I specifically wonder why this
> happens at this point in time.

I cannot tell you why this message appears, in particular for staden (no
matter how hard I grep staden's dependencies, I cannot find tk8.4 in it).

However I can tell you why it's happening now. This is due to the recent
bogus run of testing migrations.  734837 is a sort of "pseudo" RC bug
that was there to prevent tk8.4 from migrating again to testing. Yet a
bug in the transition script let it go through. Now the auroremoval
stuff rightly wants to remove it again, and for some reason
misinterprets its reverse dependencies.

I would believe removing tk8.4 by hand from testing could fix the lot of
associated autoremovals.

Dear release team, thoughts on that?

Kind regards, Thibaut.


> Staden is juat an example for a set of packages with the same problem.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Andreas.
> 



Re: Bug#843604: RFS: xerces-c/3.1.4+debian-1 [RC]

2016-11-08 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 08/11/2016 à 10:56, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :

> 
> If the transition freeze is effective, uploading this to unstable will
> severely hinder work on any package that build-depends on xerces-c.
> 

Or maybe not. No SONAME bump, no problem. Sorry for the noise.



Re: Bug#843604: RFS: xerces-c/3.1.4+debian-1 [RC]

2016-11-08 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 08/11/2016 à 04:40, Bill Blough a écrit :
> Package: sponsorship-requests

>   It builds those binary packages:
> 
>  libxerces-c-dev - validating XML parser library for C++ (development files)
>  libxerces-c-doc - validating XML parser library for C++ (documentation)
>  libxerces-c-samples - validating XML parser library for C++ (compiled 
> samples)
>  libxerces-c3.1 - validating XML parser library for C++
> 
>   To access further information about this package, please visit the 
> following URL:
> 

>   Changes since the last upload:
> 
>   * New upstream release

Aren't we supposed to be in a transition-freeze now?

If the transition freeze is effective, uploading this to unstable will
severely hinder work on any package that build-depends on xerces-c.



Upload new version of a package waiting in NEW

2015-06-03 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi,

I'm sure I have seen the answer to this newbie question years ago, but
google doesn't seem to be my friend anymore:

I have a package waiting in NEW and I have a new version ready for
upload because either:
 1- I have found an issue in the version in NEW that I want to fix
   or
 2- There is a new upstream version that I want to package
   (or both).

What is the most efficient procedure?
 a) wait until the package was accepted or rejected;
 b) ask FTPmasters to reject the package and reupload with same version;
 c) upload immediately.
In this case, should I:
i)   use a new version?
ii)  make a source-full upload (-sa)?
iii) use -v option to put info about all skipped versions in
.changes?

Kind regards, Thibaut.


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Re: Useless call to ldconfig and shared libraries issue

2015-02-05 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 05/02/2015 14:50, Corentin Desfarges a écrit :
 Le 05/02/2015 11:40, Andreas Tille a écrit :
 Hi,

 On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 10:50:15AM +0100, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda
 wrote:
 By the way, we have to add wget as build-deps of the package in
 d/control.
 No, it's the lack of wget as build dependency. I'm trying to build
 again the
 package. I have made some modifications, but I would like to test it
 before
 say anything.
 Unfortunately you are not allowed to download anything at package build
 time.  Each Debian package should build in a non-network environment.

 So either the build time tests need to be skipped or the data (perhaps
 xz compressed?) need to be provided either in package source or in a
 separate data package that can be added as Build-Depends.

 Kind regards

   Andreas.

 So tosummarize, I can disable tests with something like :
override_auto_test:
echo unit tests disable, see README
 
 in d/rules, and by adding in debian/* a script to download data and run
 unit tests ?

In essence, yes.

I tend to install such scripts, when needed, in
 /usr/share/doc/package/
or a sub-directory thereof, such as examples/.

I *think* such a test is also suitable for the autopkgtest framework:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/autopkgtest

Using this framework would ensure your test is ran automatically on
occasions, just not during the build.

Kind regards, Thibaut.




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Re: Useless call to ldconfig and shared libraries issue

2015-02-05 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 05/02/2015 10:24, Corentin Desfarges a écrit :
 Are you sure that in build time do you need to download some data? is
 this
 acceptable?

 Leopold
 
 Yes I need to download the data, else the unit tests can't pass... And I
 can't
 include the data into the package, because of its the size (more than
 800MB).

Hi Corentin,

There is a general consensus that network access should be prohibited
during build, so you cannot pull data from a debian/rules target that
runs automatically on the autobuilders:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=770016

Some consider that it's OK to do so *conditionally*, but I, for one,
would not sponsor a package that does it. Not that I'm likely to sponsor
your package anyway, not being competent in your field.

 It has already been discussed in this thread :
https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2014/12/msg9.html

Nowhere did anyone suggest this as a possible option. The options are:

 - pack the data with the source package, in a separate tar.gz file;

 - prepare a script or instructions, that people can run interactively
when they decide, to download the data and test the package. This script
must not run at build-time.

Kind regards, Thibaut.

 It is strange that the unit tests don't pass with this error (about shared
 library). When I build the package in a chroot environment, they pass.
 Have you
 tried to change something about rpath ?
 
 By the way, we have to add wget as build-deps of the package in
 d/control.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Corentin
 
 


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Re: Useless call to ldconfig and shared libraries issue

2015-02-02 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 02/02/2015 14:17, Corentin Desfarges a écrit :
 But it doesn't work.
 What does doesn't work mean?
 
 I mean that I get the same error :
 
 ./debian/fw4spl/usr/bin/fwLauncher: error while loading shared libraries:
 libfwCore.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
 directory
 
 

Dear Corentin,

When does this error appear? Is that when running the test suite?

Do you also have the same error once the package is installed?

Kind regards, Thibaut.


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Re: Using the same Alioth git repo for multiple source packages.

2014-11-20 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi,

Le 19/11/2014 19:23, Maxime Chatelle a écrit :
[...]
 The package is cakephp. Upstream maintains 3 main branches: 1.3.x, 2.x and
 3.x
 
 I plan to use the following naming scheme for branches:
 
 upstream/1.3.x(fast-forward only branch feeded by upstream releases)
 debian/1.3.x/master   (devel branch, merged into debian/1.3.x/suite
branches, can be seen as experimental)
 debian/1.3.x/suite  (wheezy, jessie, stretch, ...)
 
 And the same for other series:
 
 upstream/2.x
 debian/2.x/master
 debian/2.x/suite
 
 upstream/3.x
 debian/3.x/master
 debian/3.x/suite
 
 For tag names, as usual I will use:
 upstream/1.3.20
 debian/1.3.20-1
 

That sounds entirely reasonable to me, especially if it is useful in
your workflow (e.g. make a change in debian/1.3.x/master, then merge it
into debian/2.x/master and debian/3.x/master...)

[...]
 Beside of that, what is your opinion about maintaining quilt patches
 into distinct branches (properly named) and generate the quilt patch
 series into a temporary build dir/branch ?

That's entirely up to you. Some helper tools require this scheme, others
don't, and when working manually, you do as you see fit.

Kind regards, Thibaut.




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Re: Using the same Alioth git repo for multiple source packages.

2014-11-19 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 19/11/2014 11:21, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 On Tue, 18 Nov 2014, Maxime Chatelle wrote:
 Is it a good practice to use the same Alioth packaging repository to
 maintain two (and later, three) source packages ? Obviously the three
 source package come from the same upstream git repository. The point is
 to maintain 2 (or 3) development branchs of the same software while
 avoiding repository duplication.
 
 No, few of the helper tools make it really easy to maintain multiple
 source packages in the same repository.
 
 It's certainly possible but it's not what I would call good practices
 in Debian.
 

Hi,

Focusing on the helper tools may not necessarily be the only approach.
I personally only use git, quilt and pbuilder, which would all behave
fine in this context.

Maxime is talking of several branches of the *same* code, that he
packages, apparently, in different source packages.

That makes it likely that he will want to apply the same changes to all
of his branches. Only marginal things like the content of debian/patches
and the actual name of the packages will differ. That's also what I
would do, say, to maintain one upstream version in unstable and another
one in experimental.

In my opinion, in this context, the best course of action is indeed to
maintain the various branches in the same repo, carefully choosing
explicit branch names, and avoiding any tools that may have
unpredictable behaviour.

Maxime, perhaps you can be more explicit about your use case?

Kind regards, Thibaut.



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Bug#762995: RFS: radiotray/0.7.3-2 [RC]

2014-10-01 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Control: tag -1 pending
Control: owner -1 !

I'm on it.



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Re: Bug#742330: RFS: gravit/0.5.1-1 ITP -- visually stunning gravity simulator

2014-09-30 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 30/09/2014 14:58, Tomasz Buchert a écrit :
 It has now a huge d/copyright file. :)

That's how it's done :-) Uploaded.



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Re: Problem Occurred while creating deb package of libreoffice

2014-09-29 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 29/09/2014 12:16, Ritu Panwar a écrit :
 Hello Joachim,
 
 Thanks for quick reply :)  we have our own translations here as i need
 libreoffice in hindi language .our translator had translated the strings
 into hindi language then i compiled libreoffice with hindi langpack and
 --with-package-format=deb on ubuntu after compilation i got the deb
 packages of libreoffice with hindi langpack.
 its getting install successfully if i run the dpkg -i *.deb command on
 terminal. but now i want to create a local repository for the compiled
 libreoffice with hindi langpack for that i am not able to create deb
 package it is the actual problem even i don't know is it possible or not
 can u help me out.

Hi,

I suppose what you want is to be able to distribute your language pack?
You have several possibilities:
 - Read https://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository
   (I personally used reprepro)
 - Contribute your package directly to Debian
 - For the ubuntu packages, use launchpad.

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Bug#742330: RFS: gravit/0.5.1-1 ITP -- visually stunning gravity simulator

2014-09-25 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 25/09/2014 09:15, Tomasz Buchert a écrit :


 Hi Thibaut,
 I corrected these problems: http://mentors.debian.net/package/gravit
 (changes:
http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/debian-astro/packages/gravit.git/)
 I also added cc-by-sa-3.0.txt to gravit-data since in theory every
 license text should be distributed with Debian, but I couldn't find
 it in /usr/share/common-licenses.

 Tomasz



Hi Tomasz,

Not really important, but the purpose of sponsoring is to teach you the
True Way of Debian: you should dump the WTF and the CC-BY-SA licenses
directly in copyright instead of putting them somewhere else. The
sentence On Debian systems, such license can be found... is only for
the licenses in common-licenses. Policy says:

Every package must be accompanied by a verbatim copy of its copyright
information and distribution license in the file
/usr/share/doc/package/copyright (see Copyright information, Section
12.5 for further details).

The common licenses are an exception, where we put only a pointer to
another file. So technically it's an RC bug to put the license in any
other place, although I doubt that you would get a REJECT for that (the
FTP master would file a bug, though, or otherwise remind you to fix this).

Kind regards, Thibaut.



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Bug#742330: RFS: gravit/0.5.1-1 ITP -- visually stunning gravity simulator

2014-09-24 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi Tomasz,

+dfsg should be appended to the upstream part of the version number, not
to the debian revision.

Concerning debian/copyright, no big deal, but I don't want to let the
FTP master waste their time on it:


 The image in data/skybox/purplenebula/* has been relicensed from WTFPL
 to GPL-2 to make debian/copyright simpler.


Relicensed by whom? If it's by you, don't do that, simply add another
paragraph.

Likewise, add another paragraph for the files which are GPL2+ instead of
GPL2.

In other terms, don't try to be clever, just dump the information here.

I'm building the package now, will let you know if there are other problems.

Regards, Thibaut.



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Bug#742330: RFS: gravit/0.5.1-1 ITP -- visually stunning gravity simulator

2014-09-24 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 24/09/2014 17:05, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :

 I'm building the package now, will let you know if there are other
problems


While you're at it, there's a new version of Policy, you should update
Standards-Version:

https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/upgrading-checklist.txt

Package looks good otherwise, I'll upload as soon as you have fixed the
remaining issues: +dfsg in upstream version, nit-picking about
copyright, Standards-Version should be 3.9.6 (I think lintian doesn't
even know about it yet)

Regards, Thibaut.




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Bug#742330: RFS: gravit/0.5.1-1 ITP -- visually stunning gravity simulator

2014-09-23 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 22/09/2014 20:29, Tomasz Buchert a écrit :
 
 Hi Thibaut,
 I' taking liberty to ping you about this RFS.
 
 Cheers,
 Tomasz
 
 

Thanks, I'll see if I can have a look later this week.



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Re: How to resolve circular build dependency?

2014-09-15 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 14/09/2014 06:32, hero...@gentoo.org a écrit :
 The concern of casacore{,-data} being out of sync might be resolved with
 two tarballs supported by quilt 3.0 format[2].  I am not sure how to
 implement it in a clean way by git-buildpackage.  Any examples
 available?

Dear Benda,

If you do that, each time one of the two packages is updated, the other
will also need to be needlessly re-built (on every single arch, for
casacore), re-uploaded to the archive (and its many mirrors), and
re-upgraded by every user. That's a lot of wasted CPU, bandwidth, and
hard-drive space.

Better to just use the bootstrapping scenario and leave the circular
build-dependency.

Kind regards, Thibaut.




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Bug#749096: Updated version

2014-09-03 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 03/09/2014 11:05, Martin Steghöfer a écrit :
 El 29/08/14 a les 23:33, Ghislain Vaillant ha escrit:
 Well, you are supposed to target what's in there in unstable if you
 want your package to be accepted in the archive. Afterwards, Ubuntu
 will automatically pick it up for its current development version
 (14.10 or 15.04) depending on how fast the upload to Debian goes.
 Regarding support for 14.04, this could be done by requesting a
 backport from the Ubuntu package of a newer release (14.10 or 15.04)
 and then adding your 14.04 specific patching to the backported package.
 
 OK, understood. So the bottom-line of your answer, if I understand you
 correctly (taken the fact that the little change in the patch is already
 too much): Helping downstream distributions happens via other channels,
 the Debian package is not supposed/allowed to include anything that is
 unnecessary for Debian unstable.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Martin
 
 

Dear Martin,

I think you are over-interpreting what Ghislain wrote. What he said is
rather that your package will likely build unmodified on the next
release of Ubuntu, if not on the current one, because Ubuntu will also
upgrade there version of libav.

You don't *have* to go out of your way to ease the downstream work.
Likewise, you don't *have* to make any efforts to make it easier to
backport your package to older versions of Debian.

However, when it is practical, it is good practice to make the
adjustments that will make your package compile unmodified on Debian
stable and up-to-date derivative distributions.

On the other hand you don't want to obfuscate your package just for the
sake of backports. If the patch becomes unreadable, your sponsor will
give up on checking it.

In the end, it's up to you (and your sponsor) to decide the level of
complexity you want to allow in your package.

Kind regards, Thibaut.




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Re: ghdl package has been removed from Mentors

2014-07-21 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 19/07/2014 17:00, Guido van Steen a écrit :
 I agree with Joris.
 
 Users are not properly informed that discussions on mentors.debian.net
 may be automatically lost after a package is removed from
 mentors.debian.net. This should be changed. I would rather see the
 information backed-up in some way before it is deleted.
 
 Does this require a bug report again debexpo, or is this mailing list
 the place for a discussion?
 

Hi,

IMHO, the right place for discussing a particular package is it's ITP
bug (when the package is prospective) or the RFS bug.

Kind regards, Thibaut.



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Re: ghdl package has been removed from Mentors

2014-07-21 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 21/07/2014 10:37, Guido van Steen a écrit :
 } IMHO, the right place for discussing a particular package is it's ITP
 } bug (when the package is prospective) or the RFS bug.
 
 AFAIAA there is no ITP or RFS for the package debexpo (the software at
 issue, which is running at mentors.debian.net).
 
 Guido
 

Hi,

this is not what I mean: I don't like the comments feature of debexpo,
my opinion is that comments on a to-be-sponsored package should be sent
to the corresponding RFS bug.

Debexpo has its own bug tracker:
https://alioth.debian.org/tracker/?atid=413115group_id=100127func=browse

I guess it is supposed to be used for feature requests concerning debexpo.

Kind regards, Thibaut.


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Bug#753021: RFS: cpl-plugin-muse/0.18.1+dfsg-1 [ITP] -- ESO data reduction pipeline for MUSE

2014-07-01 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 28/06/2014 18:22, Ole Streicher a écrit :
 Package: sponsorship-requests
 Severity: wishlist
 X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-as...@lists.debian.org, debian-scie...@lists.debian.org, 
 debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
 
 Dear Mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package cpl-plugin-muse.

Hi Ole,

I'm a bit busy right now. Can you ping me around mid July, I should have
more time then!

Kind regards, Thibaut.



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Bug#753021: Aw: Bug#753021: RFS: cpl-plugin-muse/0.18.1+dfsg-1 [ITP] -- ESO data reduction pipeline for MUSE

2014-07-01 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 01/07/2014 10:10, Steffen Möller a écrit :

 Heyho,
 
 I uploaded it, yesterday. At least so I thought. Cannot find it in the new 
 queue. Will do better tonight.

Thanks Steffen :-)





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Bug#742330: RFS: gravit/0.5.1-1 ITP -- visually stunning gravity simulator

2014-06-30 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi Tomasz,

I guess you missed my review!
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=742330#24

Kind regards, Thibaut.


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Bug#742330: RFS: gravit/0.5.1-1 ITP -- visually stunning gravity simulator

2014-04-16 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Control: tag -1 + pending


Dear Tomasz,

debian/copyright is incomplete. Use licensecheck, grep and less to
find out the copyright and license of each individual file. Here are a
few copyright notices which you did not list in debian/copyright:

Copyright:  2003-2014 Gravit Development Team / 2003-2014 Gerald Kaszuba
Copyright: 2008 Matt Gallagher. All rights reserved
Copyright: 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002 Sam Lantinga
Copyright: 2006 Angelo Encelo Theodorou
Copyright (C) 1994-2008 Lua.org, PUC-Rio.  All rights reserved

Some files are not GPL. For some files it's not even clear that they are
DFSG, please check it and document your findings in debian/copyright. If
in doubt (and if those files are not used in building), repack.

debian/changelog is too verbose. It should only list initial upload.
(Closes: ITPbugnr).

The package is not lintian-clean. You need to write a manpage for the
'gravit' binary. I was not able to find out how to use it as a screen
saver, which is certainly not a good idea given the resources it takes!

gravit-data should certainly Recommend gravit, and I believe gravit
should Depend on gravit-data (=${source:Version}) rather than (=
${source:Version}).

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Re: Bug#744280: RFS: cpl-plugin-xshoo/2.4.0+dfsg-1 (name change)

2014-04-14 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Dear Ole,

Le 14/04/2014 07:38, Ole Streicher a écrit :
 So, if you want to keep up-to-date, you should at some point remove
 package A and install package B instead. This is what I think is the
 use of replaces.

Well Replaces alone does not provide this feature. If you want to be
sure that people do upgrade (which may not be necessary, given the low
pop-con), you need to provide a new version of package A (can be built
from the source of package B, is the versioning scheme is correct). This
new package A is a dummy package, in section oldlibs, whose unique
purpose is to pull B.

The dummy package A will stay on the system for a while. Tools like
deborphan will be able to prune it. It's possible that aptitude will do
it automagically at some point too.

If there is a problem with installing new B concurrently with old A,
then you need to put the Breaks/Replaces machinery into place. In this
case it must be a versioned Breaks, since you actually want the dummy
package A to be co-installable with B. With a non-versioned Breaks, A
would depend on B, which would conflict with A, rendering A
uninstallable, which is forbidden.

Note that there is no way to ensure that upgrading A will automatically
end-up with B being installed and A being uninstalled. This is certainly
what you are looking for, it does not exist in Debian.

Now it's your package. I just wanted to be sure that you understand how
this all works, but it's your call whether or not to introduce the dummy
package. The Breaks/Replaces machinery looks quite unnecessary to me
except for the -doc package as you said. I'll upload whatever you decide
to do.

Some more details: in practice, what Replaces does is, in the two
situations:

 File conflict:
Warn dpkg that pkg B may overwrite files in A, which needs to be either
removed or upgraded, which the (possibly versioned) Breaks or Conflicts
ensures. Without the Replaces, dpkg would complain and stop, which is
quite nasty.

 Install only one MTA:
Tell apt that B should win the Conflict over A. This really is scarcely
used, I'm almost certain that the MTA example is the reason why this
machinery was invented.

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Re: Renaming a source package

2014-04-14 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 14/04/2014 09:19, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr a écrit :
 Hi,
 

Hi Ole,

I'll summarize my answers from the bug and perhaps provide some more:

 
 Question is now how to proceed:
 
 * how do I declare that the *source* package cpl-plugin-xshoo is just
   renamed from cpl-plugin-csh?

You don't. You could keep the old name for the source package (which the
users never see), or use the new name.

If you use the new name, and if you build dummy packages with the old
names from the new source package, then the old source package will be
cruft removed automatically at some point. Else, you need to request the
removal of the old source and old binaries.

 * ho do I create a good transition?
 
 I thought of two ways:
 
 1. Just create a new source package cpl-plugin-xshoo that creates the
 new cpl-plugin-xshoo* packages; set Provides and Replaces fields for
 all three binary packages, and a Breaks field for the -doc (because of
 the manpages). When they entered testing, manually remove all old
 cpl-plugin-xsh* source and binary packages

IF you use Conflicts/Provides/Replaces in the new packages, then the old
packages will be removed from the end-user system *when they request
installation of the new package*, but upgrading their system will not do
it automatically.

IF you provide dummy packages with the old names, then the new packages
will be pulled automatically, leaving marginal cruft behind (i.e. empty
packages installed). The dummy packages can be purged by tools like
deborphan.

You can't have both.

 2. From the new source, create a soource package that is still named
 cpl-plugin-xsh that contains the new binary packages, and the old ones
 as transitional dependencies (cpl-plugin-xsh has a Depends:
 cpl-plugin-xshoo etc.) Once this entered testing, create a new source
 package cpl-plugin-xshoo that contains the cpl-plugin-xshoo
 packages. However, how do I declare then that the new source package just
 overtakes the old source package?

Their is nothing in there which requires multiple uploads.

Kind regards, Thibaut.


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Re: Renaming a source package

2014-04-14 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 14/04/2014 11:37, gregor herrmann a écrit :
 On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 10:24:37 +0200, Thibaut Paumard wrote:
 
 I'll summarize my answers from the bug and perhaps provide some more:
 
 There's also https://wiki.debian.org/Renaming_a_Package

And I'd go so far as to say that Method 1 (only useful in very easy
cases) advertised in this page is actually useless in most cases. I
can't see a case where it does anything useful.

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Bug#744280: RFS: cpl-plugin-xshoo/2.4.0+dfsg-1 (name change)

2014-04-13 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 12/04/2014 13:55, Ole Streicher a écrit :
 Package: sponsorship-requests
 Severity: normal
 X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-as...@lists.debian.org, debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
 
 Dear mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package cpl-plugin-xshoo

Hi Ole,

Why does the package Conflict and Replace cpl-plugin-xsh? None of the
files are the same (so at least the Replace is wrong). Conflicts is a
very strong type of dependency, that should be avoided if at all
possible, for instance using Breaks instead.

So the questions are:
 - are there any files in common in the two packages?
 - what happens when the two packages are installed together?
   + are the two packages still usable somehow?
   + is one package simply shadowed by the other?
   + is cpl completely broken in that case?

Depending on the answers to those questions, I would think you could:
 - remove the Replaces line;
 - replace Conflicts with Breaks or remove it altogether;
 - keep Provides if the new package really provides the same API;
 - optional: build cpl-plugin-xsh* as meta-packages that will pull
   their cpl-plugin-xshoo counterpart.

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Bug#744280: RFS: cpl-plugin-xshoo/2.4.0+dfsg-1 (name change)

2014-04-13 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 13/04/2014 15:33, Ole Streicher a écrit :
 Hi Thibaut,
 
 my mail program seemed to eat the citations. 2nd attempt:
 
 Am 13.04.2014 14:45, schrieb Thibaut Paumard:
 Why does the package Conflict and Replace cpl-plugin-xsh? None of
 the files are the same (so at least the Replace is wrong).
 
 I mainly followed the rule of renaming a package.
 Replaces is correct wrt policy:
 
 7.6 Overwriting files and replacing packages - Replaces
 
 Packages can declare in their control file that they should overwrite
 files in certain other packages, or completely replace other packages.
 The Replaces control field has these two distinct purposes.

Dear Ole,

I think you misunderstood the uses of Replaces. Like the other types of
dependencies, Replaces is a technical tool to warrant a certain
behaviour of the package manager. The fact that you are trying to
replace a package by another one in the archive does not mean that
Replaces is useful or even right for your purpose. The two use cases are:

- file f was is package A, now it is in package B. Either package A is
removed from the archive, or there is a new version of package A without
file f. (Normally, Breaks+Replaces).

- packages A and B provide the same functionality, but should not be
installed at the same time on the system. (Only real use case for
Conflicts+Replaces).*

You are in neither of those two situations. Now in Policy there is also
this sentence (near the end of 7.4):

Neither Breaks nor Conflicts should be used unless two packages cannot
be installed at the same time or installing them both causes one of them
to be broken or unusable.

The Provides field is really useful only if there are other packages
already depending on package A.

I think you should just completely remove the three fields. Conflicts is
wrong, Breaks seems wrong too since nothing is broken, and Replaces is
useless without either Conflicts or Breaks.

Kind regards, Thibaut.



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Bug#743691: RFS: wcslib-contrib/4.20 [ITP] -- Draw and label curvilinear coordinate grids with pgplot

2014-04-13 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Control: owner -1 !
Control: tag -1 + pending

I'll take care of this one


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Re: library linking, missing libB.so

2014-03-20 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 20/03/2014 13:22, Nico Schlömer a écrit :
 Hi all,
 
 I'm building a package for a library A that depends on another
 library, libB.so (from its dev-version). When installing library A,
 the package libb is installed, containing libB.so.7.2 and libB.so.7.
 When linking an executable against libA.so, the linker rightfully
 complains about a missing libB.so.
 
 What is the correct fix here?

Install libA-dev, which must depend on libB-dev.

Regards, Thibaut.

 
 Cheers,
 Nico
 
 


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Re: library linking, missing libB.so

2014-03-20 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 20/03/2014 14:06, Nico Schlömer a écrit :
 which must depend on libB-dev.
 
 libB-dev is indeed not explicitly listed as a dependency of libA-dev,
 mostly because I was under the impression that ${shlibs:Depends} takes
 care of this, cf. https://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging. Is
 that not the case?
 

${shlibs:Depends} takes care of the runtime dependency, libB.so.x.y. It
cannot determine that libA-dev requires libB-dev, which contains the
libB.so link.

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Re: Question about a licensing problem

2014-03-17 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 17/03/2014 13:34, Albert van der Horst a écrit :
 one version, 2.21 is GPL, but already for reasonable sized brain image
 data the code crashes, and the way the code is written there is no easy
 way to fix this, and hence, Oscar went with version 3.0, which works.

 However, version 3.0 comes with a license attached that only allows use
 for research purposes and doesn't allow the redistribution of the source
 code.
 
  This seems to like a clear violation of the GPL.
 Just ask them to comply with the GPL.

Not at all. They are upstream, they can change their own licensing terms
for new releases of their code. They are simply not yielding their new
work under the same terms as they did with their preceding work. The GPL
is *not* viral, using it for version 2.21 of your code does not force
you to use it for version 3.0.

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Re: Splitting in /usr/lib/arch and /usr/share

2014-03-10 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 08/03/2014 14:02, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 I am packaging some older software (eso-midas, [1]) that installs
 everything into a common directory (f.e. /usr/lib/eso-midas/). However,
 the FHS requires that this should be split between /usr/share/ and
 /usr/lib/arch/. In the majority of cases, this could be done
 automatically by recognizing the type with the file command: object
 files, libs etc. go to /usr/lib/arch/eso-midas/, all text and data
 files to /usr/share/eso-midas (with a link to
 /usr/lib/arch/eso-midas).
 
 Is there already a little helper script that does this for me?
 

Hi Ole,

Nice you are packaging MIDAS.

I don't know any such script, and I doubt it would do the right job
anyway. Are the indep files generated?

What I would try is to compile the package on two distinct architectures
(or more) and compare the result. That would work unless the build for
these files is non-deterministic or includes timestamps or information
on the build machine.

amd64 and i386 may be sufficient and, if you have an amd64 box, it's
easy enough to install a i386 chroot. Failing that, as a DM, you can
request access to porter boxes (you are not a DD yet, are you?). I could
also do the compilation for you since, as a DD, I have permanent access
to those machines:
https://db.debian.org/machines.cgi

I guess you do realize that this split also implies putting the indep
files in a separate arch:all package.

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Re: Splitting in /usr/lib/arch and /usr/share

2014-03-10 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi,

Le 10/03/2014 10:45, Andrey Rahmatullin a écrit :
 On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:19:29AM +0100, Thibaut Paumard wrote:
 What I would try is to compile the package on two distinct architectures
 (or more) and compare the result. That would work unless the build for
 these files is non-deterministic or includes timestamps or information
 on the build machine.
 ... or files can be same on some different architectures and different on
 others (e.g. because of endianness).

Thanks for clarifying that. Indeed you need to check the files at least
on a 32bit arch, a 64bit arch, a little-endian arch and a big-endian arch.

Actually one way to go would be to upload the package without making the
split, downloading all the binaries, and comparing the files. This is
easier than manually building on porterboxes and covers all the
architectures on which the package compiles.

 I guess you do realize that this split also implies putting the indep
 files in a separate arch:all package.
 It doesn't.

You are right, if the files under /usr/share/ are indeed byte-for-byte
identical.

However, splitting is a good idea if the indep part is large, and works
also if the indep files are not byte-for-byte identical but the
differences are irrelevant (such as information on the build machine
encoded in a comment header, for instance).

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Re: Splitting in /usr/lib/arch and /usr/share

2014-03-10 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi,

Le 10/03/2014 10:50, Оlе Ѕtrеісhеr a écrit :
 [packaging ESO MIDAS]
 Let's see how far I come. BTW, Since I do not use it myself: Is it worth
 to split it into core, applic, stdred, and contrib packages? Is there
 any use for keeping the source?

It's already great to package it, don't overdo it. You won't have that
many installs anyway, and most users will want the full package. I don't
see a need for keeping the source either. I would split like this,
depending on whether it makes sense:

  - midas (binary arch)
  - midas-common (binary indep, if it is big)
  - midas-doc (if it is big, else with -common)

If MIDAS supports plug-ins (that, I don't know), then you could put the
files that are needed only for compiling extensions in midas-dev.

 I was looking for an automated way. I would just do the following:
 
 * put all files that are obviously system dependent to /usr/lib
 * put all files that are obviously system independent to /usr/share
 * Check all other files and put them to the right place

That works, too.

 However, this is (as well as your proposal) manual work, and has to be
 repeated with each release. Therefore I was hoping to have the majority
 of files automatically put to the right place and deal only with the
 ones where the automatic way fails.

I doubt the list of files for this mature piece of software will change
much between releases.

Kind regards, Thibaut.


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Re: Maintainer scripts: execute command as another user: use sudo or su?

2014-02-26 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 26/02/2014 16:07, Emilien Klein a écrit :
 Hi Mentors,
 
 TLDR: in order to execute a command as another user, should `sudo` or
 `su --command` be used?
 
 
 I'd like to get your opinion on how to best solve this issue:
 I've got a package [0] that uses dbconfig-common to manage its
 database. The database is owned by a specific user (not root).

Hi Emilien,

I think you should use su. I am almost certain that sudo can be
configured in such a way that would break your assumptions, whereas su
can simply not be configured.

Besides, as you noted yourself, using sudo would imply a completely
unnecessary new dependency.

su is the right using tool for assuming another personality and dropping
privileges from root.

Kind regards, Thibaut.


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Re: Wish to package astronomy software

2014-01-06 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 05/01/2014 12:42, Bamm a écrit :
 Hello,
 
 I'm Bamm from the Philippines. I'm new to this list and I hope to gain
 advice how to package for Debian. My interest is in astronomy
 software.
 

Dear Bamm,

I should be able to review your package once you think its ready, and
sponsor it when I think its ready. Be patient, it will take some time
for you to learn how Debian packaging works and for people (like me) to
review it.

Kind regards, Thibaut.




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Re: Upgrading the Debian Policy

2013-09-24 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 24/09/2013 15:58, Paul Wise a écrit :
 On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Dominik George wrote:
 
 Sorry to disapoint you, but you should read *all of* DPM before passing
 a package for upload to a sponsor or to mentors.
 
 I don't think we have never expected that new maintainers read policy
 before creating a package.

Hi,

I disagree with that: I expect prospective package maintainers to read
and follow the Debian New Maintainers' Guide, which states:

 The following is the very important documentation which you should
read along with this document:
- debian-policy [...]
- developers-reference - [...]

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/start.en.html#needdocs

I would say that this is what Debian as a whole requires.

I mean that I expect the package maintainer to have read enough of the
policy to know which parts apply to his packages, and to have read these
parts in full.

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Re: Path for search data files in package

2013-07-30 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 30/07/2013 13:28, Anton Balashov a écrit :
 Hello.
 We are creating a game and we can't find answer on question:
 How to set in code path where to search data files (for example sounds,
 images, etc). Of course we can hardcode '/usr/share/game/...' but what
 if game was installed with prefix? What is the best practice?
 
 Thanks for help.
 

Hi,

there is no generic answer to that question.

If your build system supports --prefix, it's not too hard to include the
prefix in the hard coded path. For a Debian package, that's all you
need: a compile-time option.

If you want your build to be relocatable (i.e. install path is not known
at compile time) you can also make the path relative to the executable
binary path.

Finally, your program can accept a command line option or an environment
variable so the user can set the path. Or even an option in a file the
user directory or in /etc.

If you implement several of those possibilities, you should make the
priority in that order: command-line, environment, user file, /etc file,
hard coded value.

Kind regards, Thibaut.


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Re: How to handle a package triggering ice or segv during build?

2013-06-14 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 14/06/2013 08:50, Thomas Moulard a écrit :
 Dear all,
 the ViSP[1] software I maintain is causing GCC[2,3] and Doxygen[4] to crash
 on some platforms.
 
 It is difficult for me to fix or to report these issues as:
 1. I am neither a DD or a DM,
 2. I do not have access to these architectures by myself.

Dear Thomas,

Even if you are not yet a DD or DM, you are the maintainer of the
package and you may (and should) request access to whatever you need to
do your work. The limitations are only technical, just think of it as if
you were learning how to drive with someone sitting next to you as in
the French conduite accompagnée system.

In particular, you can ask for SSH access to porteboxes. See:
http://dsa.debian.org/doc/guest-account/

You will need a DD to support your request. Best would be to ask your
usual (or last) sponsor.

 I was wondering if opening a bug (on the Debian BTS) for GCC and
 Doxygen is acceptable
 in this case?

If you think the bug is in GCC and Doxygen rather than in your own
package, definitely.

If the bug is in visp, file a bug against visp instead, to keep track of
the issue, request help etc.

 Another question is: do DM have SSH access to Debian machines to
 validate packages on
 various architectures?

No, not readily. They need ta ask DSA specifically, just like you. Only
they don't need a DD to support the request.

Kind regards, Thibaut.


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Bug#710103: The mentor package URL changed as well

2013-06-04 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Hi,

Le 31/05/2013 16:22, Eriberto a écrit :
 You musn't initiate the description using the package name or an
 article[1].

This is an RFS bug: yes, the bug title must start with

RFS: package name/version

and since all trafic for RFS bugs is dispatched to the mentors mailing
list, I argue that any answer to such bug should keep this information
in its title.

That being said, Łukasz, I don't know enough of evdev or python to
help you with the package. Have you also tried sending your RFS to the
python mailing list?

Kind regards, Thibaut.
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Bug#710248: RFS: fitsverify/4.16 [ITP] -- FITS File Format-Verification Tool

2013-06-03 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Uploaded.

Le 31/05/2013 12:19, Ole Streicher a écrit :
 Hi Thibaut,
 
 Am 29.05.2013 14:38, schrieb Thibaut Paumard:
 I don't think the FTP master will let the package in with just 
 this short notice (so short that I missed it despite looking for 
 it). Maybe they would be OK if you reproduced said e-mail in
 full.
 
 I have included the E-mail confirmation into the copyright file
 and re-uploaded it to mentor.debian.net.
 
 But the best would of course be to get upstream to just add a 
 copyright notice at the beginning of each source file plus a
 copy of the applicable license and release a new tarball. It
 should be about 15 minutes of their time, well spent.
 
 I have asked upstream, but he refused to do this on a short term. 
 Instead he recommended that I could inserting the License.txt
 myself (what I basically did by creating the debian/copyright
 file). So I would guess it is completely OK to insert the package
 into Debian.
 
 Best regards
 
 Ole
 
 

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Bug#710248: RFS: fitsverify/4.16 [ITP] -- FITS File Format-Verification Tool

2013-05-29 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 29/05/2013 12:44, Ole Streicher a écrit :
 Package: sponsorship-requests
 Severity: normal
 X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-scie...@lists.debian.org
 
 Dear mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package fitsverify

Hi Ole,

package looks good. I couldn't find upstream's license and copyright
statement though, where is it?

Regards, Thibaut.


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Bug#710248: RFS: fitsverify/4.16 [ITP] -- FITS File Format-Verification Tool

2013-05-29 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 29/05/2013 14:02, Ole Streicher a écrit :
 Hi Thibaut,
 
 Am 29.05.2013 13:44, schrieb Thibaut Paumard:
 Le 29/05/2013 12:44, Ole Streicher a écrit :
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package fitsverify
 package looks good. I couldn't find upstream's license and
 copyright statement though, where is it?
 
 Not there. I asked and got a confirmation from William Pence that
 the license is the same as for CFITSIO. I've put a note for that
 in debian/copyright.
 
 Best
 
 Ole

Hi Ole,

I don't think the FTP master will let the package in with just this
short notice (so short that I missed it despite looking for it).

Maybe they would be OK if you reproduced said e-mail in full.

But the best would of course be to get upstream to just add a
copyright notice at the beginning of each source file plus a copy of
the applicable license and release a new tarball. It should be about
15 minutes of their time, well spent.

Regards, Thibaut.
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Re: lintian: no-upstream-changelog + non-standard changelog

2013-05-16 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Hi,

Le 16/05/2013 15:11, Felix Natter a écrit :
 hi,
 
 the package freeplane does not contain an upstream changelog but
 does contain a high-level change history:
 
 === 1.2.23 
 === Bug fix for dragging of nodes when
 node tool tip is shown === 1.2.22 
 === Bug fixes for script based
 conditions for filters and conditional styles [...]

Yes, this _is_ a changelog.

 Eric (the previous packager) installed this file as 
 /usr/share/doc/freeplane/history_en.txt.gz, which seems ok. But
 how should I deal with the no-upstream-changelog lintian warning?
 
 - override it - install this file as
 /usr/share/doc/freeplane/changelog.gz and 
 /usr/share/doc/freeplane/history_en.txt.gz

Rather install as history_en.txt.gz and make changelog.gz a symlink.

 - install this file only as /usr/share/doc/freeplane/changelog.gz

Either of the three options look fine (reasonable, policy compliant)
to me, just paint the bike shed the color you prefer...

Regards, Thibaut.
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Bug#696385: RFS: astromenace/1.3.1+ds-1 [ITP] -- hardcore 3D space shooter with spaceship upgrade possibilities

2013-04-08 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 07/04/2013 23:52, Boris Pek a écrit :
 Hi Thibaut,
 
 I have updated packages astromenace and astromenace-data. Now all issues
 should be solved.
 
 Links for download:
   
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/contrib/a/astromenace/astromenace_1.3.1+ds-1.dsc
   
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/non-free/a/astromenace-data/astromenace-data_1.3.1+ds-1.dsc
 
 Git repos:
   http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-games/astromenace.git
   http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-games/astromenace-data.git
 
 Please have in mind that `cp AstroMenace AstroMenaceFS2VFS` in debian/rules in
 package astromenace is temporary. As you can see in SVN repo [1], special
 separate utility AstroMenaceFS2VFS will be available in next release. But new
 version of program will be released only at summer.
 
 [1] http://sourceforge.net/p/openastromenace/code/261/#diff-8
 
 Best regards,
 Boris


Hi Boris,

We are almost there, but not quite.

Just thinking aloud: the problem with the current scheme is that the
game data file will be present twice in the user system: on real FS and
in VFS. That could be avoided only by copying the fonts in
astromenace-data source, so I guess we'll have to live with that. I'm
wondering whether you could ship the data in a tar.xz archive to at
least save some space?

At least you could avoid duplicating AstroMenace as AstroMenaceFS2VFS:
simply move the postinst/prerm logic in astromenace instead of
astromenace-data. Note that as is, AstroMenace indirectly depends on
AstroMenaceFS2VFS, so you get the two exact same executables twice on
the system. Or you could make AstroMenace a link pointing to
AstroMenaceFS2VFS for the time being.

Typo in astromenace's control:
 - you can skip the line This package contains game executable file.
If you keep it, you need an article in front of game: the game...
 - This package contains utility which generates AstroMenace date
file.: date - data. Here again, you're missing an article: a utility
or the utility.

Thanks for you continued efforts.

Kind regards, Thibaut.



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Bug#696385: RFS: astromenace/1.3.1+ds-1 [ITP] -- hardcore 3D space shooter with spaceship upgrade possibilities

2013-04-03 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi Boris,

In the rules file for astromenace data, you list fonts in
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-liberation/, but the files there are
symlinks to files in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/liberation/. The symlinks
are provided by a compatility package which is not listed in your
build-dependencies, so building fails in a clean chroot. Can you fix that?

There is a more serious problem. You copy font files which end-up
(AFAIU) in gamedata.vfs. You therefore need to abide by the
redistribution terms of the license of those fonts. The Debian way of
insuring that in a generic manner (for DFSG-free material) would be to
list the font packages in Built-Using. This ensures that the user can
get the source for whatever ended-up in the binary package.

The problem here is that astromenace-data is not in main but in
non-free. I'm not sure that the Built-Using mechanism is sufficient to
ensure that the source package for the fonts remain in the archive. Can
you check that on -devel or -legal?

Else I see two solutions:

 - copy (part of) the font source packages in astromenace-data (I didn't
check: if the ttf files are their own source, you only need to copy them
and amend debian/copyright);

 - pack gamedata.vfs on the end-user system to avoid redistribution.

Kind regards, Thibaut.



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Bug#696385: RFS: astromenace/1.3.1+ds-1 [ITP] -- hardcore 3D space shooter with spaceship upgrade possibilities

2013-03-27 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 27/03/2013 09:21, Boris Pek a écrit :
 Hi Thibaut,
 
 Can you explain why you chose to split the source? This forces you to
 have astromenace only recommend astromenace-data, which is not good
 since you can't play the game without the data.
 
 I have at least three reasons for this:
 1) It is more convenient in maintaining. Data files are changed rarely. There
is no need to rebuild and re-upload huge package with them each time.
 2) As I wrote earlier [1] package astromenace should recommend
astromenace-data only at initial upload (to avoid circular dependencies).
In next upload astromenace-data can be moved to dependencies.
 3) IIRC buildd does not build packages in non-free area and pre-build binary
packages should be uploaded into it manually. In this case binary packages
will be available on less number of architectures than it should be
possible.
 
 [1] http://bugs.debian.org/696385#19
 
 Best regards,
 Boris

Hi Boris,

That makes sense. I was also thinking that the root of this was the
ability to autobuild the binary.

However, I have an alternative proposal which would avoid the problem
and should not impose too much hassle on you: ship the entire source in
astromenace-data, build the executable there, use it to package the
data, but do not ship the built executable.

This way, astromenace-data does not need to build-depend on astromenace,
which can rightfully Depend on astromenace-data. You don't need to
bootstrap by first only Recommending astromenace-data.

Kind regards, Thibaut.



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Bug#696385: RFS: astromenace/1.3.1+ds-1 [ITP] -- hardcore 3D space shooter with spaceship upgrade possibilities

2013-03-27 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 27/03/2013 13:43, Boris Pek a écrit :

 If you agree with this tricky/artful solution I will prepare updated package
 astromenace this evening.
 

Forget it, I will upload as is after a last round of checks and after I
manage to setup a local repo for use with pbuilder.

Cheers, Thibaut.



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Bug#696385: RFS: astromenace/1.3.1+ds-1 [ITP] -- hardcore 3D space shooter with spaceship upgrade possibilities

2013-03-26 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Dear Boris,

Sorry for the delay and thanks for the ping.

Can you explain why you chose to split the source? This forces you to
have astromenace only recommend astromenace-data, which is not good
since you can't play the game without the data.

Kind regards, Thibaut.



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Bug#696385: astromenace: reviewing

2013-03-07 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi,

I'm reviewing astromenace. Looks pretty good so far, you seem to have
already tackled the license problems. Looks technically sound.

Regards, Thibaut.



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Re: debian/bug-control: report bug against unofficial debianpackages

2012-11-07 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 07/11/2012 15:30, bilibop project a écrit :
 Hi, and thanks for your replies
 
 message d'origine 
 De: Russ Allbery r...@debian.org
 A: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
 Sujet: Re: debian/bug-control: report bug against unofficial debianpackages
 Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 12:46:29 -0800
 
 what can happen if a user reports a bug against one of my packages by
 using 'reportbug' ?
 Must I explicitly add 'Send-To: quid...@poivron.org' in debian/bug-control
 to avoid conflicts with Debian BTS ?

 I use Bugs: mailto:address as a source package header in debian/control
 instead.
 
 message d'origine 
 De: Thibaut Paumard thib...@debian.org
 A: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
 Sujet: Re: debian/bug-control: report bug against unofficial debianpackages
 Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:19:39 +0100
 
 The .dsc and .tar.gz files in the personal repository are exactly
 the sames than those I have uploaded on mentors.debian.net. If the
 answer to the previous question is YES, must I send a different
 version on mentors, even if the package is not sponsored (because
 if it is sponsored a day, the source will be modified and the
 personal repository will disappear) ?

 Actually, I consider it a good idea for both packages to differ: the
 packages you provide on your personal repository can be considered
 pre-releases of the upcoming official Debian package and their version
 should perhaps be of the form: x.y.z-1~rc1 to sort strictly before
 x.y.z-1, which will be the first package in Debian.

 This way, when your package gets finally included in Debian, your
 users will automatically get it as a routine update.
 
 message d'origine 
 De: Arno Tölla...@debian.org
 A: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
 Sujet: Re: debian/bug-control: report bug against unofficial debianpackages
 Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:52:04 +0100
 
 The .dsc and .tar.gz files in the personal repository are exactly the
 sames than those I have uploaded on mentors.debian.net. If the answer to
 the previous question is YES, must I send a different version on mentors,
 even if the package is not sponsored (because if it is sponsored a day,
 the source will be modified and the personal repository will disappear) ?

 Yes, you may need to do so. Alternatively you can just upload the
 package including the debian/bug-control file you mentioned to mentors
 and hope your future sponsor will hopefully detect it and ask you to
 remove it by then.
 
 So now, I'm a little bit confused...
 @Thibaut:
 Given that I'm a 'git' beginner, I don't know exactly how to deal with
 *parallel* versions. More exactly, how to manage the changelog entries?
 If I ship x.y.z~rc1 in my personal repository for each x.y.z version that
 I upload on mentors.debian.net, as you suggest me, does it mean that for
 each version, there should be TWO entries in the changelog, as:
 

Hi,

You can do like for backports.debian.org packages: keep the official
package changelog, and simply add an entry for the backport. Real life
example:

iceweasel (10.0.10esr-1~bpo60+1) squeeze-backports; urgency=low

  * Rebuild for squeeze-backports.

 -- Mike Hommey gland...@debian.org  Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:37:26 +

iceweasel (10.0.10esr-1) unstable; urgency=high

  * New upstream release.
  * Fixes for mfsa2012-90, also known as CVE-2012-4194 and CVE-2012-4196.

 -- Mike Hommey gland...@debian.org  Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:19:35 +0200

iceweasel (10.0.9esr-1) unstable; urgency=high

  * New upstream release.
  * Fixes for mfsa2012-89, also known as CVE-2012-4192 and CVE-2012-4193.

 -- Mike Hommey gland...@debian.org  Sat, 13 Oct 2012 00:05:54 +0200



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Bug#692366: RFS: kbibtex/0.4-3 [RC][ITA]

2012-11-06 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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package sponsorship-requests
owner thib...@debian.org
tag 692366 + pending
user sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org
usertags 692366 for-wheezy not-fit-fot-wheezy
thanks

Dear Bastien,

The debdiff is enormous, because you have renamed patches and added a
README.source, because you have decided to use gitpkg.

Please revert the unnecessary changes. Remember that you will have to
send a debdiff to the release team and explain the purpose of each change.

A larger debdiff means more work for the release team and less chances
for your package to be accepted in Wheezy.

I'll sponsor this upload when it is ready.

Regards, Thibaut.

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Re: Bug#691780: RFS: imagemagick

2012-11-05 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Dear Bastien,

Le 04/11/2012 17:25, roucaries bastien a écrit :
 I could as a mainteners open artificially a bug on the bts

This would not be artificial, this would be good practice (assuming
the info is not embargoed by the security team).

The BTS is a central place to communicate with sponsors, with the
release team, with users.

Regards, Thibaut.
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Bug#686070: libpam-ssh/1.92-15

2012-11-05 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Dear Jerome,

 - I would be much more comfortable if you asked the previous
   maintainer for comments on the ITP (even if he never answers!)

 - You could comment on #691988 explaining why you think the package
   should be accepted for Wheezy:
   + insist that two users already requested reintroduction;
   + explain why you only took action after the freeze (perhaps you
 used the squeeze version happily before that?);
   + explain that your RFS was filled in August and that you are not
 responsible for the 2 month delay since then.

 - That said, the package still contains non-minimalistic changes. You
need to produce a debdiff on the source package in squeeze and your
source package and comment on this debdiff. Every single change must
relate to fixing a RC bug or a release goal. For instance, I don't get
why you made those changes:

+ why introduce fix-debian-adhoc.patch, build-depend on
  du-autoreconf etc? This seems to be replacing this:
$(MAKE) CFLAGS=$(cflags) -Wl,--version-script,debian/pam_ssh.version
  which I find simpler and more elegant.
  Perhaps some of these changes are to fix a bug, please undo
  whatever is unnecessary and explain (in this bug thread) what is
  necessary.
+ Why remove the VCS control field? You should use the repository
  instead.
+ the clean rule changes also seem unnecessary.

 - Perhaps your package will not be unblocked for wheezy. In any case
   you probably want to upload a new upstream soon enough. I would not
   upload a new upstream to unstable at this point because it would
   lower still the chances that the packages makes it into wheezy.
   However, you can prepare the best possible package with new upstream
   for experimental. In this package, you can do all the changes you
   want.

I'm willing to sponsor your package (either 1.92 to unstable or 1.97 to
experimental, or both) but please try contacting the previous maintainer
for comments.

Note: I'm subscribed to the RFS, the ITP, and the release.d.o bugs. no
need to CC me.

Regards, Thibaut.
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Re: debian/bug-control: report bug against unofficial debian packages

2012-11-05 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 05/11/2012 17:43, bilibop project a écrit :

 The .dsc and .tar.gz files in the personal repository are exactly
 the sames than those I have uploaded on mentors.debian.net. If the
 answer to the previous question is YES, must I send a different
 version on mentors, even if the package is not sponsored (because
 if it is sponsored a day, the source will be modified and the
 personal repository will disappear) ?
 

Actually, I consider it a good idea for both packages to differ: the
packages you provide on your personal repository can be considered
pre-releases of the upcoming official Debian package and their version
should perhaps be of the form: x.y.z-1~rc1 to sort strictly before
x.y.z-1, which will be the first package in Debian.

This way, when your package gets finally included in Debian, your
users will automatically get it as a routine update.

Regards, Thibaut.
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Bug#691780: RFS: imagemagick/8:6.7.7.10-5

2012-11-03 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 02/11/2012 16:46, Bastien ROUCARIES a écrit :
 Yes for wheezy and asap due to security problem that could lead to
 dos
 

Bastien, have you contacted the security team? If this is a security
issue, the security team should always be contacted and they can
certainly sponsor the upload for you.

Regards, Thibaut.

 Le 31 oct. 2012 15:09, Thibaut Paumard thib...@debian.org 
 mailto:thib...@debian.org a écrit :
 
 package sponsorship-requests user
 sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org 
 mailto:sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org usertags 691780
 for-wheezy thanks
 
 Bastien says before end of the freeze, so I guess this is 
 for-wheezy.
 
 Regards, Thibaut.
 
 
 
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Bug#686070: libpam-ssh/1.92-15

2012-11-03 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 02/11/2012 16:33, Jerome BENOIT a écrit :
 Hello:
 
 On 31/10/12 14:36, Thibaut Paumard wrote: package
 sponsorship-requests user sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org 
 usertags 686070 - not-fit-for-wheezy thanks
 
 I'm removing the not-fit-for-wheezy tag since Thomas claims to
 have improved on that matter.
 
 It still have the tag `not-fit-for-wheezy'.

Actually, you have it *again*, I don't know how set it back.

 
 I don't have time to check the package right now.
 
 Do you have the intention to sponsor it ?
 

I plan on reviewing it in the next few days and sponsor it if it's
fine. You will need an unblock in any case for Wheezy.

Regards, Thibaut.

 Best wishes, Jerome
 
 
 Regards, Thibaut.
 
 

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Bug#686070: libpam-ssh/1.92-15

2012-10-31 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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package sponsorship-requests
user sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org
usertags 686070 for-wheezy
thanks

Le 30/10/2012 21:21, Michael Gilbert a écrit :
 control: retitle -1 RFS: libpam-ssh/1.92-15 [ITP] [REINTRODUCTION]
 
 Unfortunately this package was removed from unstable, so it won't
 be considered for upload until after wheezy unfreezes.  Removing RC
 since as a NEW package the RC categorization does not apply.
 
 Best wishes, Mike

Hi,

Mike, I don't agree: this package *is* a valid candidate for an
unblock, as is every package already in Squeeze.

Jerome, seeking pre-approval from the release team would help your case.

Since Jerome explicitly said he was targeting wheezy, I'm setting the
corresponding usertag.

Regards, Thibaut.
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Bug#686070: libpam-ssh/1.92-15

2012-10-31 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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package sponsorship-requests
user sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org
usertags 686070 - not-fit-for-wheezy
thanks

I'm removing the not-fit-for-wheezy tag since Thomas claims to have
improved on that matter.

I don't have time to check the package right now.

Regards, Thibaut.
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Bug#691780: RFS: imagemagick/8:6.7.7.10-5

2012-10-31 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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package sponsorship-requests
user sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org
usertags 691780 for-wheezy
thanks

Bastien says before end of the freeze, so I guess this is for-wheezy.

Regards, Thibaut.

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Re: (Non-)Usefulness of the current for-wheezy and fit-for-wheezy usertags

2012-10-29 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 26/10/2012 00:55, Michael Gilbert a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 I feel like the current for-wheezy and fit-for-wheezy usertags 
 actually make the sponsorship-requests bug page harder to use than
 it needs to be.

Hi,

(I tried answering on Saturday but I believe my e-mail never arrived,
or perhaps I sent it only to Michaël. This is a slightly different
answer).

First of all, you are free to view the bug page with the ordering you
prefer. Try using ordering=standard:

 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=sponsorship-requests;ordering=standard

 In actuality, any bug tagged ITP and QA should not have either of 
 those tags (since no itp or qa upload is going in until the freeze
 is lifted unless the qa is rc, and in that case it should be tagged
 rc), and any bug tagged RC or NMU should have those tags.  So, why
 then are we using an orthogonal system?  Why not just have usertags
 itp, rc, qa, and nmu?  There are two orthogonal categorizations,
 and I'm not sure how that helps.
 
 Best wishes, Mike

Discussion has started about here:
 https://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2012/07/threads.html#00030
and the tags are explained here:
 http://wiki.debian.org/Mentors/BTS
 http://wiki.debian.org/Mentors/UserCategories

The goal of the for-wheezy and not-for-wheezy usertags is to get the
maintainer to explicitly state her intent. The goal of the
(not-)fit-for-wheezy usertags is mainly to allow for reviews by people
who will not sponsor the package themselves (which experienced DMs and
some DDs sometimes do).

At that time, there was only positive feedback. You are indeed the
first person to express reservations.

Now that three months have passed, perhaps we can gather some more
enlightened feedback on whether the four usertags are useful or
whether we should simplify.

On the other hand there is some overhead inherent to changing how
things work: if you want to introduce the usertags itp, rc, qa, and
nmu, it will take some time before people actually use them. I would
tend to defer that until after the release, when we will retire
(not-)(fit-)for-wheezy any way.

Regards, Thibaut.
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Re: Lots of problems with upstream, please help!

2012-10-23 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 23/10/2012 06:38, David Smith a écrit :
 Hello, I hope this is the right mailing list.
 
 I've been a Debian user for over 10 years, but due to schoolwork
 and work i haven't been very involved in Debian. Mostly I have
 submitted patches to upstream or helping upstream debug rather than
 helping Debian specifically.

When you help upstream, you do even more than helping Debian.

 For a long time, I always end up with a dozen or so of my own
 custom packages which I derive from official debian source packages
 with an extra tiny bugfix patch or two I've thrown in on top and
 recompiled. Sounds pretty selfish, I know.

Well, now you may have the skills to submit your patches :-)

 With Wheezy coming out, I'm trying to help any way I can but I'm 
 having some problems.

If they're release critical, please do so. Else, just prepare Wheezy+1
:-) When Wheezy is out, you can *backport* those features in
wheezy-backports...

As a general remark on all your problems, you have already realized
something very important about how free software development (does
not) work. Actually, this is not limited to free software (like, at
all): nothing worth having comes easy. Very often it takes months of
prodding the right person before your patch is accepted.

 Technically they are all problems with upstream and they're all
 for different software.  I really don't know how to deal with them
 to help Debian.
 
 1. As a big regression from Squeeze,  I had to blacklist an HP 
 platform driver from loading into the kernel in order for my
 wireless to work well. I filed a debian bug report about it and the
 debian maintainers helped me collect all the information I needed
 and submit it to upstream.  I did all that, it's been 3 weeks, and
 the upstream kernel platform devs seem to have completely ignored
 it, although linux-wireless confirmed the platform driver is doing
 something very strange.  So I don't know what to do. Maybe I just
 need to wait longer?

3 weeks is short. Is the bug release-critical?

 2. About 8 months ago, an upstream developer wrote a patch to
 enable a feature in upstream software.  Upstream didn't review the
 patch so it never officially made it into upstream software.
 Requests to review the patch by me and others are getting
 completely ignored upstream. The upstream dev that made the patch
 looks to have disappeared. Upstream seems reluctant to accept,
 reluctant to reject and reluctant to review, so it stays in limbo.
 Without upstream's proper review / approval of the patch, in
 addition to the fact that the patch essentially enables a feature,
 it's probably unlikely to ever make it into Wheezy, right? I filed
 a bug report saying that the feature didn't work as the feature is
 listed in the software as being available, but it's not actually
 enabled in the code.  I'd imagine an NMU for enabling this feature
 in Wheezy would be inappropriate and the proper Debian thing to do
 would be to just write a different patch to remove the feature so
 the user doesn't see it in the software? Although, that's pretty
 much the exact opposite of what I'm doing on my PC so I really
 don't have much motivation to do that.

Unless the feature is central to the software, this doesn't sound
release-critical and even a patch to remove any trace of the ghost
feature would be inappropriate. On the other hand, if you can convince
the release team, the upstream patch could perhaps directly be
included in the Debian package. Or you can fix it post Wheezy and
provide a backport.

 
 3. A couple months ago, an upstream developer wrote a patch to fix 
 what I consider to be a serious bug that makes a lot of apps
 unusable under normal (aka user customized) conditions. Upstream
 reviewed and approved the patch but the patch is written for KDE
 4.9. 1.   I tried applying the patch to KDE 4.8. 4 in Wheezy which
 ended up as a spectacular failure during compile. I asked upstream
 to back port the patch to kde 4.8. 4 in Debian and they said that
 they do not control the release of Debian and that KDE 4.8.5 is
 available.   I'm almost certain the patch upstream wrote isn't
 going to work with 4.8.5 either, but I haven't tried it as I don't
 want to be that far away from Debian's packages.  There is a
 work-around that's very easy to do, but it's not obvious, and it
 saps performance from my PC.  I'm certain some Debian users running
 KDE will eventually run into this very annoying problem and have to
 Google and enable the work around. I will likely end up backporting
 the patch myself for my own personal needs if the workaround annoys
 me enough some day, which it probably will eventually...  I
 worry that if I backport this patch, it might be a little ugly and
 probably not suitable for Debian anyway, although I really haven't
 looked at backporting the patch yet.

Bug report number please? If the conditions under which the bug bites
are really normal as in statistically 

Re: Renaming files, patching, renaming files, unpatching, and 3.0 (quilt)

2012-10-10 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Hi,

Le 10/10/2012 09:20, Jasmine Hassan a écrit :
 I believe unstable should move to 0.9.x, and let me fork 0.8.8 for 
 MATE. I have it running rock solid atm, completely integrated with 
 marco 1.4 (metacity's replacement) as the decorator, and even
 emerald 0.8.8 as an additional option for decorator.

You are right: forking is OK for your case.

Raphaël is right:
  - you should try to collaborate with other distributions on a
*single* fork.
  - your fork should not be called compiz, please pick a unique
name, such as compiz-mate or matepiz or whatever

In addition, but I believe you realize that already, your fork and the
mainstream compiz packages should remain co-installable at all time:
you need to rename/move all files, programs, libraries etc.

As for unstable should move to 0.9.x, that's entirely up to the
compiz maintainers and the release team. Remember we are in a freeze
period, experimental has 0.9.2.1+git...

Regards, Thibaut.
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Re: Question about debian experimental.

2012-10-09 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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(This thread is better suited for debian-mentors, setting
mail-followup-to accordingly)

Le 08/10/2012 18:30, Andrej N. Gritsenko a écrit :
 Hello!
 
 I have a question. Since maintainers of LXDE are extremely busy
 last few months I would like to find a way to upload latest
 upstream version of libfm and pcmanfm into experimental
 repository.

Hi,

Please don't feel sorry for trying to help. But also understand that the
maintainers of a specific package usually work on there spare time and
are concentrating on the release.

I'm not sure if anyone but the LXDE maintainers would upload these
packages for you, even in experimental.

There are two things you can do:
 1- make your packages readily available on the internet, but not in
the official archive;
 2- help the official maintainer integrate your changes.

1- make the packages publicly available:

I would try building the binaries on at least the two most popular
architectures, i386 and amd64. Choose a version number such as
 x.y.z-0~andrej
to make it sorts before any future official version, including NMUs
and backports.

You would then need to upload the source and binary packages to some
website. github can serve you here.

Finally, just mention it in the bug reports, so users can find your
updated packages.

2- Two things to do to help your work reach the official archive:
 a- Send your changes to the bugreport(s) as a patch and tag the bug(s)
+patch (this is almost a must do)
 b- Prepare another source package (with version such as x.y.z-1~exp1,
sorting after your personal package), make it available on the web
(e.g. on http://mentors.debian.net/) and send an RFS
_to_the_official_maintainers_. You can also, in addition, make this
RFS a bug against the sponsorship-requests pseudo package but
please explain the situation carefully there.

Kind regards, Thibaut.

Rest of original post:

 I feel sorry that I constantly bug the maintainers with the same
 question and I think they already hate me that I ask them despite
 they are still have no time for that. So I would like do not bore
 them anymore. I have all the required debian/* files which are
 files from 0.1.17 / 0.9.10 versions with some corrections needed to
 conform Debian Policy rules where they were not and adapted to all
 what was changed in upstream. Packages made with those files are
 proven to be created and installed smoothly on Wheezy. Those 
 debian/* files are public available on
 https://github.com/LStranger/. Why I would like to upload them into
 experimental? That is simple - I would like to let people in Debian
 BTS who are struggling from bugs that prevent them from usage of
 old versions of pcmanfm to get current version which is free of all
 those bugs. So question is - may it be possible to upload them into
 experimental or I have still to bother maintainers? I feel sorry to
 do that again.
 
 Thank you very much. Andriy.
 
 

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Re: exclude

2012-10-08 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 04/10/2012 23:10, Bas van den Dikkenberg a écrit :
 Maybe of my package burp,
 
 Hurd-i386 and s390x keeps failing.
 
 And can't find the problem
 

Hi,

This is no reason to remove those arches from the list. It's OK to
fail (unless, of course, your package takes hours to build and you
upload a new version every day).

You should rather file wishlist bugs against your own package and ask
for help on the porters' list.

Kind regards, Thibaut.
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Re: exclude

2012-10-04 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 04/10/2012 16:53, Boris Pek a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 How can i exclude hurd-i386 from a build
 
 Architecture: linux-any kfreebsd-any
 
 Best wishes, Boris
 
 

Hi,

Please note that it is usually not useful to manually exclude
architectures. It should be reserved for cases where it would not make
sense to port your package to the Hurd.

Regards, Thibaut.
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Re: [RC bug fix] Sponsor needed

2012-08-10 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 10/08/12 23:05, Noel David Torres Taño a écrit :
 Hi all
 
 I need a sponsor in order to upload an updated package which
 resolves an RC bug.
 
 I'm quite surprised nobody has stepped in before.
 
 Bug number is #681654.
 
 Package is kstars-data-extra-tycho2 - Tycho-2 star catalog for
 KStars
 
 To access further information about this package, please visit the
 following URL: 
 http://mentors.debian.net/package/kstars-data-extra-tycho2
 
 Regards Noel Torres er Envite
 

Hi,

I am not a DD, so I can't sponsor you.

However, you don't seem to have filled an RFS bug. Although it is not
mandatory, it would help you finding a sponsor.

Please read:
http://wiki.debian.org/Mentors/BTS

Regards, Thibaut.
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Re: how to consult who has set usertag not-fit-for-wheezy

2012-07-21 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 21/07/12 09:26, Bart Martens a écrit :
 Hello,
 
 Is there a way to consult who has set the usertag not-fit-for-wheezy for a
 particular RFS bug ?
 
 For normal tags like patch, upstream, moreinfo and so on, there are 
 links
 to the messages sent to cont...@bugs.debian.org on the bug log, but for
 usertags I don't see such links.
 
 Regards,
 
 Bart Martens
 
 


Yep, I've seen that too and I have no answer...



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Re: how to consult who has set usertag not-fit-for-wheezy

2012-07-21 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Hi again,

Le 21/07/12 15:32, Damien Raude-Morvan a écrit :
 Le 21/07/12 09:26, Bart Martens a écrit :
 Is there a way to consult who has set the usertag
 not-fit-for-wheezy for a particular RFS bug ?
 You can use this : 
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=not-fit-for- 
 wheezy;users=sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org

The question is not to list the packages with the tag set, but to know
_who_ has set the tag.

I am under the impression that it's not possible at the moment. I
don't have time to request this feature now and to follow-up.

I think it's best to always comment the bug when setting a tag by
sending the mail to both control _and_ the bug report (e.g. to
nnn...@.bugs.debian.org or to NN-submitter@b.d.o).

Kind regards, Thibaut.
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Re: Bug#681968: RFS: scscp-imcce/0.6.4+ds-1 [ITP] -- IMCCE SCSCP C Library

2012-07-21 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 21/07/12 13:38, Jerome BENOIT a écrit :
 Hello:
 
 On 19/07/12 16:13, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
 On 18/07/12 11:22, Thibaut Paumard wrote:
 Le 18/07/12 10:40, Jerome Benoit a écrit :
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package scscp-imcce
 [...]
 
 SCSCP stands for Symbolic Computation Software Composibility
 Protocol. This protocol is developed by the European project
 SCIEnce - Symbolic Computation Infrastructure for Europe: 
 http://www.symbolic-computing.org/
 
 Dear Jérôme,
 
 What about putting your package under collaborative maintenance
 in by the Debian Science Team?
 
 I am on my way to do so.
 
 See:
 
 http://debian-science.alioth.debian.org/debian-science-policy.html


 
It may then be easier for you to find a sponsor within the team.
 
 I can help you with that (setting up a git repository on alioth
 and all)
 
 I will have an attentive look before asking.
 
 I have an account at Debian-Science. But I am confused now because
 it is not clear what is the next step. (The document seems very
 terse.)
 
 Any hint to step further is welcome.

(Moving the discussion to debian-science, where it belongs).

You mean to set-up the git repository?

Once you have an Alioth account and you are in the debian-science
group, you can

ssh alioth-login@vasks.debian.org
cd /git/debian-science/packages
mkdir package.git
cd package.git
git init --bare

On your local machine, you should then be able to use:
 git checkout
git+ssh://alioth-login@git.debian.org/git/debian-science/packages/package.git
or
 git remote add alioth
git+ssh://alioth-login@git.debian.org/git/debian-science/packages/package.git

Make sure the package itself follows the debian-science policy.

Good luck.

Regards, Thibaut.
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Re: freeze policy - open requests for sponsorship

2012-07-20 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 19/07/12 21:30, Paul Tagliamonte a écrit :
 On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 07:27:01PM +, Bart Martens wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 04:57:44PM +0200, Thibaut Paumard wrote:
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=sponsorship-requests;ordering=wheezy-bilevel

 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=sponsorship-requests;ordering=wheezy-view
 http://wiki.debian.org/Mentors/BTS#Usertags
 
 If consensus is reached (or if noone reacts negatively)
 
 I'm happy with your efforts on this.  Please continue.
 
 Seconded, for sure. Thanks, Thibaut!
 

OK, since that can be easily reverted, I have proceeded (and made some
little modifications). The usual default view should be available soon at:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=sponsorship-requests;ordering=standard

I will vanish into VAC-air in a nearing future, it case anything goes
wrong and you need to revert this change, this e-mail sent to control
should suffice:

user sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org
usercategory normal
 * status
 * severity
 * classification
thanks

Everything is documented in:
http://wiki.debian.org/Mentors/BTS#Usertags
http://wiki.debian.org/Mentors/UserCategories

Cheers, Thibaut.
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Bug#679344: RFS: bzr-email/0.0.1~bzr58-1 [ITA] is not-fit-for-wheezy

2012-07-20 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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package sponsorship-requests
user sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org
usertags 679344 not-fit-for-wheezy
thanks

Hi,

Now that the freeze has started, this package is not fit for wheezy.
During freeze, it is generally better to upload new upstream releases
to experimental instead of unstable, to allow important fixes to the
wheezy version to go through unstable as usual. Please state your
intention (usertag for-wheezy or not-for-wheezy) and amend your
package accordingly, either abiding by the [Freeze Policy] or setting
the distribution to experimental.

Please see:
[Freeze Policy] http://release.debian.org/wheezy/freeze_policy.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2012/07/msg00030.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2012/07/msg00210.html
http://wiki.debian.org/Mentors/BTS#Usertags

Kind regards, Thibaut.
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Bug#679344: RFS: bzr-email/0.0.1~bzr58-1 [ITA] is not-fit-for-wheezy

2012-07-20 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 20/07/12 17:14, Satoru KURASHIKI a écrit :
 hi,
 
 On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Thibaut Paumard 
 paum...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
 package sponsorship-requests user
 sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org usertags 679344
 not-fit-for-wheezy
 
 Now that the freeze has started, this package is not fit for
 wheezy. During freeze, it is generally better to upload new
 upstream releases to experimental instead of unstable, to allow
 important fixes to the wheezy version to go through unstable as
 usual. Please state your intention (usertag for-wheezy or
 not-for-wheezy) and amend your package accordingly, either
 abiding by the [Freeze Policy] or setting the distribution to
 experimental.
 
 I've already given up this package for wheezy, so I will delete 
 package from mentors.d.o soon.
 
 (As you've already tagged this RFS, I will untag it and re-put on 
 mentors after releasing wheezy.)
 
 regards,
 

As you wish.

No need to remove the not-fit-for-wheezy tag, on the contrary you
could do one of the following:

 - close the RFS;
 - tag it wontfix and not-for-wheezy;
 - re-upload with distribution set to experimental and tag it
not-for-wheezy.

Kind regards, Thibaut.

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Re: freeze policy - open requests for sponsorship

2012-07-19 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 19/07/12 15:15, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :
 user sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org usercategory
 wheezy-status * Wheezy Status [tag=] + Intended for Wheezy
 [for-wheezy] + Not Intended for Wheezy [not-for-wheezy] + Fit for
 Wheezy [fit-for-wheezy] + Not Fit for Wheezy [not-fit-for-wheezy] +
 Uncategorized [] usercategory wheezy-view * status * wheezy-status 
 * severity thanks
 

I think this is better:

user sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org
usercategory wheezy-intention
 * Wheezy Status [tag=]
   + Intended for Wheezy [for-wheezy]
   + Not Intended for Wheezy [not-for-wheezy]
   + No Intention Stated []
usercategory wheezy-fitness
 * Wheezy Fitness [tag=]
   + Fit for Wheezy [fit-for-wheezy]
   + Not Fit for Wheezy [not-fit-for-wheezy]
   + Unreviewed for Wheezy Fitness []
usercategory wheezy-bilevel
 * status
 * wheezy-intention
 * wheezy-fitness
 * severity
thanks

This way, bugs are sorted
 1- by status (Outstanding/Resolved), as usual;
 2- then by intention (for-wheezy, not-for-wheezy, unstated);
 3- then by fitness for Wheezy (fit-for-wheezy, not-fit-for-wheezy,
unstated)
 4- then by severity.

Check it out on:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=sponsorship-requests;ordering=wheezy-bilevel

You can also try (from my previous experiment):
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=sponsorship-requests;ordering=wheezy-view

I have documented that in
http://wiki.debian.org/Mentors/BTS#Usertags

If consensus is reached (or if noone reacts negatively), I propose to
eventually have wheezy-bilevel become the default BTS view by sending
to control:

user sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org
usercategory normal
 * status
 * wheezy-intention
 * wheezy-fitness
 * severity
thanks

Regards, Thibaut.
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Bug#681968: RFS: scscp-imcce/0.6.4+ds-1 [ITP] -- IMCCE SCSCP C Library

2012-07-18 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 18/07/12 10:40, Jerome Benoit a écrit :
 Package: sponsorship-requests
 Severity: normal
 
 Dear mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package scscp-imcce
[...]
 
 SCSCP stands for Symbolic Computation Software Composibility Protocol.
 This protocol is developed by the European project SCIEnce - Symbolic
 Computation Infrastructure for Europe: http://www.symbolic-computing.org/

Dear Jérôme,

What about putting your package under collaborative maintenance in by
the Debian Science Team? See:

http://debian-science.alioth.debian.org/debian-science-policy.html

It may then be easier for you to find a sponsor within the team.

I can help you with that (setting up a git repository on alioth and all)
but I can't sponsor you (yet).

Regards, Thibaut.


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Re: freeze policy - open requests for sponsorship

2012-07-18 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 16/07/12 11:05, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :
 Le 03/07/12 08:20, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :
 Le 03/07/12 01:41, Adam Borowski a écrit : Hi,
 
 We could agree on a usertag then, for instance:
 
 User: sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org Usertags: 
 not-for-wheezy
 
 Using sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org as the User, we 
 should be able to rearrange the default view of 
 bugs.debian.org/sponsorship-requests to have the for-wheezy
 bugs on top (subclassified by severity) followed by the
 not-for-wheezy bugs.
 
 cf. http://wiki.debian.org/bugs.debian.org/usertags
 
 Hi,
 
 (For the record, IANADD... yet)
 
 I was about to triage some bugs with these two usertags
 (for-wheezy and not-for-wheezy), but I realized it is impossible to
 do without the assent from the submitter. Actually, I have read the
 first 10 RFSes or so, and if I could, I would not upload any of
 them because they are not fit for wheezy and they don't state
 whether they are aiming for wheezy.

Hi again,

I propose two _additional_ tags that could be set independently from
the maintainer: fit-for-wheezy and not-fit-for wheezy. Those two would
be used to show that the package has been reviewed and is/is not fit
for wheezy. For instance if I review a package and it does too much
modifications, I tag it not-fit-for-wheezy. The maintainer has then
two basic options:
  - revert the useless changes, remove the not-fit-for-wheezy tag
and add the for-wheezy tag;
  - tag the package not-for-wheezy and/or set distribution to
experimental.

Unless there are objections, I will start setting the
(not-)fit-for-wheezy usertags tomorrow.

Reminder: this is to help our sponsors, I can't sponsor myself. If you
don't like the idea, please say so.

Kind regards, Thibaut.

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Re: freeze policy - open requests for sponsorship

2012-07-18 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 18/07/12 15:42, Paul Tagliamonte a écrit :
 On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 02:31:16PM +0200, Thibaut Paumard wrote: Le
 16/07/12 11:05, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :
 Le 03/07/12 08:20, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :
 Le 03/07/12 01:41, Adam Borowski a écrit : Hi,
 
 We could agree on a usertag then, for instance:
 
 User: sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org Usertags: 
 not-for-wheezy
 
 Using sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org as the User,
 we should be able to rearrange the default view of 
 bugs.debian.org/sponsorship-requests to have the
 for-wheezy bugs on top (subclassified by severity)
 followed by the not-for-wheezy bugs.

 
 Hi again,
 
 I propose two _additional_ tags that could be set independently
 from the maintainer: fit-for-wheezy and not-fit-for wheezy.
 Those two would be used to show that the package has been
 reviewed and is/is not fit for wheezy.
 
 This would be (to me anyway) be very useful. -- if you wouldn't
 mind using debian-mentors@lists.debian.org as the user, that'd be
 awesome.
 
 barring considered and correct objection, of course.

Hi,

I think sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org is better because, as
I understand it, this would allow to show those tags by default and
even to organize the bug list according to those tags.

Regards, Thibaut.
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Re: freeze policy - open requests for sponsorship

2012-07-16 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 03/07/12 08:20, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :
 Le 03/07/12 01:41, Adam Borowski a écrit : Hi,
 
 We could agree on a usertag then, for instance:
 
 User: sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org Usertags:
 not-for-wheezy
 
 Using sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org as the User, we
 should be able to rearrange the default view of 
 bugs.debian.org/sponsorship-requests to have the for-wheezy bugs
 on top (subclassified by severity) followed by the not-for-wheezy
 bugs.
 
 cf. http://wiki.debian.org/bugs.debian.org/usertags

Hi,

(For the record, IANADD... yet)

I was about to triage some bugs with these two usertags (for-wheezy
and not-for-wheezy), but I realized it is impossible to do without the
assent from the submitter. Actually, I have read the first 10 RFSes or
so, and if I could, I would not upload any of them because they are
not fit for wheezy and they don't state whether they are aiming for
wheezy.

So, dear prospective sponsees, although I am not yet in a position to
sponsor you, I think I'm not wrong in telling you that: do yourself a
favour and _tell_ in your bugreport whether or not you are targeting
wheezy.

One proposed way to do that is to set the usertag for-wheezy or
not-for-wheezy with user sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org.
Since no bug have yet been thus tagged, you need to also spell it out
in your bugreport.

Uploads targeted for Wheezy should fix bug of severity important or
above, and the severity of your RFS should match the highest severity
of the bugs you are fixing (so a RFS targeted at wheezy should be of
severity important or more).

If your RFS does NOT target wheezy:
 - you can do whatever changes to your package, but you should almost
certainly set the distribution to experimental. This will help you get
important fixes to Wheezy should this prove necessary later on. This
does not apply to packages which are not in Wheezy anyway.

If you DO target Wheezy:
 - say so in your bugreport
 - keep your changes minimal
 - fix only important bugs (RC bugs, release goals)
 - set the severity of the RFS accordingly
 - for fixes involving a library transition, get it pre-approved by the
   release team
 - it will always help if you get your upload pre-approved by the
   release team

A few things that you should not do if you want your package to reach
wheezy:
 - update to a new upstream release
 - change from dh to cdbs or other
 - rewrite your rules file from scratch
 - rewrite your copyright file from scratch or convert it to 1.0
   machine readable format
 - ...
All those things are likely to be rejected by the release team, so you
will need to revert them and reupload. New upstream is the worst: it
would force you to reupload to testing-proposed-updates instead of
unstable, and the release team may not allow you to if they don't
think your changes are worth the risk.

Kind regards, Thibaut.
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Re: nbc package has been removed from Mentors

2012-07-16 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 16/07/12 11:17, Slavko a écrit :
 Dear mentors,
 
 Dňa Sun, 15 Jul 2012 09:54:17 + (UTC) mentors.debian.net 
 supp...@mentors.debian.net napísal:
 
 Your package nbc all versions has been removed from
 mentors.debian.net for the following reason:
 
 Your package found no sponsor for 20 weeks
 
 I was patient with my package, but i was no success to find the
 sponsor. Please, what did i wrong? Or, please, what i must do
 better? Need i upload it again? Or something other?
 
 Or i need to suppose, that this package is not interested for
 Debian people and do not waste the sponsor's and my time with it,
 please?
 
 thanks
 

Dear Slavko,

It's not easy to get a sponsor, especially during a freeze (please
read my previous message from 15min ago entitled Re: freeze policy -
open requests for sponsorship).

Don't give up, re-upload and try to send your RFS to maintainers (team
or other) who you think should be interested (not only to
debian-mentors). When I'm looking for a sponsor, I personally answer
my own RFS with a [ping] message every month or so, just to show I'm
still there, waiting for a sponsor.

Concerning your RFS: you should perhaps explain why you think nbc is
good for Debian, whether you intend on maintaining it on the longer
run (think 5-10 years) and why...

In the meantime you can upload your package on a personal repository
(have a look at the reprepro package) and try building a userbase
outside Debian. Reading the ITP, I see you already have a prospective
user, contact him.

Regards,Thibaut.



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Re: nbc package has been removed from Mentors

2012-07-16 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Hi again Slavko,

Le 16/07/12 11:58, Slavko a écrit :
 Don't give up, re-upload and try to send your RFS to maintainers
 (team or other) who you think should be interested (not only to 
 debian-mentors). When I'm looking for a sponsor, I personally
 answer my own RFS with a [ping] message every month or so, just
 to show I'm still there, waiting for a sponsor.
 
 I tried post to electronics team, but without any reply. I am
 confused with these pings now - after the sponsorship-request
 pseudo package was introduced (and RFS bugreports) i understand,
 that there are no pings needed.

You're right, that why I'm not saying you should send them. It may be
considered harassment by some sponsors, I don't know. I still send
~monthly pings, and each time try to rephrase why I think it's good to
have the package and I try to send it to other people who may want to
sponsor it.

 Another confusion is about the existing RFS bugreport now. It will
 be closed and new one must be created? Or after new upload i will
 only need to post reply to existing bug? Is this somewhere
 documented, please?

There is no reason why it would be closed automatically, just answer
it. IF it is closed, reopen it. IF it is retitled, retitle it back.

In short, as long as your reasonable and don't spam people, it's OK to
insist. Being stubborn is not a bad thing :-) Put your heart into it,
document in your RFS the fact that you have been effectively
maintaining the package for three years already...

Also, move on: take care of other packages, find a good sponsor to
whom you can then personally ask to review nbc. Enter the NM process,
become a DD and then you can finally upload it yourself if everything
else fails...

Kind regards, Thibaut.

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Re: freeze policy - open requests for sponsorship

2012-07-03 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 03/07/12 01:41, Adam Borowski a écrit :
 On Mon, Jul 02, 2012 at 09:06:25AM -0600, Paul Wise wrote:
 Perhaps use wheezy-ignore for stuff that shouldn't be in wheezy?
 
 Isn't that completely contrary to that tag's usual meaning?
 
 You set it for stuff that should be in wheezy despite the bug.
 
 What we'd want here, is some way to convey do not waste your time messing
 with this bug if you care only about the next stable release.  This
 includes unstable-only packages like gcc-snapshot.
 

Hi,

We could agree on a usertag then, for instance:

User: sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org
Usertags: not-for-wheezy

Using sponsorship-reque...@packages.debian.org as the User, we should be
able to rearrange the default view of
bugs.debian.org/sponsorship-requests to have the for-wheezy bugs on
top (subclassified by severity) followed by the not-for-wheezy bugs.

cf. http://wiki.debian.org/bugs.debian.org/usertags

Regards, Thibaut.


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Bug#679509: RFS: yorick-av/0.0.1-2 [Release goal: hardening]

2012-06-29 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Package: sponsorship-requests
Severity: important

Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package yorick-av. This upload fixes issues
with the hardening flags, a Wheezy release goal:
 http://wiki.debian.org/ReleaseGoals/SecurityHardeningBuildFlags
In addition, this upload puts yorick-av in compliance with the debian-science
team like the rest of the Yorick packages.

 * Package name: yorick-av
   Version : 0.0.1-2
   Upstream Author : Thibaut Paumard paum...@users.sourceforge.net
 * URL : http://paumard.github.com/yorick-av/
 * License : permissive
   Section : science

It builds those binary packages:
  yorick-av  - write movies from Yorick in various formats

To access further information about this package, please visit the following
URL:
  http://mentors.debian.net/package/yorick-av

Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:
  dget -x http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/y/yorick-av/yorick-
av_0.0.1-2.dsc

yorick-av is also available from Alioth:
Vcs-Git: git://git.debian.org/git/debian-science/packages/yorick-av.git
Vcs-Browser: http://git.debian.org/?p=debian-science/packages/yorick-av.git

Changes since the last upload:

  * Move to maintenance to the debian-science team. Update debian/control
to comply with their policy:
+ change Maintainer, put self in Uploaders;
+ DM-Upload-Allowed: yes;
+ fill-in Vcs-* fields;
+ Priority is extra.
  * Fix machine-readable copyright format.
  * Add lintian override about no fortified functions.
  * Fortify (don't rely on yorick to pass the right build flags)

Note the lintian warning remains. Yet you will see the correct flags during
build.

  Regards,
   Thibaut Paumard



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Bug#679512: RFS: yorick-mpeg/0.1-2 [Release goal: hardening]

2012-06-29 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Package: sponsorship-requests
Severity: important

Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package yorick-mpeg.

This upload fixes issues with the hardening flags, a Wheezy release goal (in
addition to complying with the debian-science policy).

 * Package name: yorick-mpeg
   Version : 0.1-2
   Upstream Author : Dave Munro
 * URL : https://github.com/dhmunro/yorick-mpeg
 * License : BSD
   Section : science

It builds those binary packages:
yorick-mpeg - MPEG output support for the Yorick language

To access further information about this package, please visit the following
URL:
  http://mentors.debian.net/package/yorick-mpeg

Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:
dget -x http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/y/yorick-mpeg/yorick-
mpeg_0.1-2.dsc

The package is also available on Alioth:
Vcs-Git: git://git.debian.org/git/debian-science/packages/yorick-mpeg.git
Vcs-Browser: http://git.debian.org/?p=debian-science/packages/yorick-mpeg.git

To test the installed package:
$ yorick
 Copyright (c) 2005.  The Regents of the University of California.
 All rights reserved.  Yorick 2.2.02 ready.  For help type 'help'
 #include mpgtest.i
 mpgtest
200.00 frames of filled surface drumhead completed in 10.763189 sec
Rate for filled mesh is 64.096504 frames/(CPU sec), 18.581681 frames(wall sec)
 quit
$ mplayer test.mpg

Changes since the last upload:

  * Move to maintenance to the debian-science team. Update debian/control
to comply with their policy:
+ change Maintainer, put self in Uploaders;
+ DM-Upload-Allowed: yes;
+ fill-in Vcs-* fields;
+ Priority is extra.
  * Configure in a patch rather than running yorick -batch make.i at build
time which may cause unpatch to fail because it's not a good idea to
modify the same file (Makefile) both at patch-time and build-time.
  * Fix machine readable copyright format
  * Remove dh-make template header from rules
  * Suggest yorick-av
  * Simplfiy debian/rules with short dh notation
  * Fortify (don't rely on yorick to provide right flags)

Regards,
   Thibaut Paumard




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Bug#669016: Two astronomy-related RFSes up for sponsoring (since 2 months)

2012-06-25 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi,

I have sent these two RFS a little bit more than two months ago. I have
put a lot of effort into them (for instance I've worked with upstream to
fix bugs in yp-svipc and port it to Python 3) and I'd be sorry if they
missed Wheezy for lack of a sponsor.

yp-svipc: System V InterProcess Communication
ITP: http://bugs.debian.org/668841
RFS: http://bugs.debian.org/669209
http://mentors.debian.net/package/yp-svipc

This package builds plug-ins for the Python and Yorick interpreter to
expose the SysV IPC to interpreted code. This permits building parallel
codes and sharing memory segments between processes.

The Yorick plug-in can be used by [YAO], an adaptive optics simulator,
to make faster computations thanks to parallelisation. The combination
of the two plug-ins allows building mixed Python/Yorick applications.
[YAO] http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/yorick-yao


gyoto: General relativistic geodesic integration and ray-tracing
ITP: http://bugs.debian.org/640809
RFS: http://bugs.debian.org/669016
http://mentors.debian.net/package/gyoto

Gyoto allows computing trajectories (e.g. of stars) and ray-tracing
images in the vicinity of compact objects such as black holes. It is
usable as a C++ library, a stand-alone utility executable, and a Yorick
plug-in.

I'd be really, really grateful if someone from the community would have
a look.

Kind regards, Thibaut.



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Re: Force rebuild of only 1 arch

2012-06-22 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 22/06/12 10:36, Bas van den Dikkenberg a écrit :
 Is there way to force a failed build to retry ?



Yes there is:
http://release.debian.org/wanna-build.txt
or otherwise
http://www.google.fr/search?q=debian+rebuild+request

Kind regards, Thibaut.



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[PING] Re: Bug#669209: RFS: yp-svipc/0.13-1 [ITP] -- System V InterProcess Communication for Python/Yorick

2012-06-12 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi guys,

it's been two months since I initially posted this RFS, and the release
is getting nearer...

Regards, Thibaut.

Le 26/05/12 11:05, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :
 Le 08/05/12 09:43, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :
 Hi guys,
 
 I'd love it if someone could have a look at this package: 
 http://mentors.debian.net/package/yp-svipc
 dget -x
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/y/yp-svipc/yp-svipc_0.14-1.dsc
 
 It gives access to the system V interprocess communication
 mechanisms to the [1]yorick and python (2-3) interpreters. With
 this mechanisms, it becomes possible to do multi-process parallel
 scripting and to develop mixed yorick/python applications. [1]
 http://packages.debian.org/sid/yorick
 
 The Yorick plug-in can optionally be used for faster computations
 by YAO, a scientific software already in Debian: 
 http://packages.debian.org/sid/yorick-yao
 
 Since the initial ITP, I've worked with upstream to port the
 software to python 3 and to fix a couple of bugs.
 
 Best regards, Thibaut.
 
 
 Le 18/04/12 09:32, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :
 Package: sponsorship-requests Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: 
 debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org
 
 Dear mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package yp-svipc
 
 * Package name: yp-svipc Version : 0.13-1 Upstream 
 Author : Matthieu Bec * URL : 
 https://github.com/frigaut/yorick-svipc/ * License :
 GPL-3 Section : Python, Science Programming Lang: C,
 Yorick, Python Description : System V InterProcess
 Communication for Python/Yorick ITP :
 http://bugs.debian.org/668841
 
 It builds those binary packages:
 
 python-svipc - interprocess communication (shared memory...) for 
 Python yorick-svipc - interprocess communication (shared
 memory...) for Yorick
 
 To access further information about this package, please visit
 the following URL: http://mentors.debian.net/package/yp-svipc
 
 Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this 
 command: dget -x 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/y/yp-svipc/yp-svipc_0.13-1.dsc
 
  When the two packages are installed, they can be tested with: - 
 yorick-only multiprocess computing: yorick -i 
 /usr/share/doc/yorick-svipc/examples/timing-demo.i -
 yorick/python communication: yorick -i 
 /usr/share/doc/yorick-svipc/examples/ping.i
 
 I have not been able to make it work under python3 so far (on 
 Linux: it works on a Mac).
 
 Regards, Thibaut Paumard.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 




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Re: Bug#669016: RFS: gyoto/0.0.1-1 [ITP] -- general relativistic ray-tracing and orbit computation

2012-06-12 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi,

Could someone have a look at this 2-month-old RFS?

Kind regards, Thibaut.

Le 19/04/12 11:35, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :
 Hi,
 
 I've updated the package which now installs the headers in a
 subdirectory of /usr/include:
 
 http://mentors.debian.net/package/gyoto
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gyoto/gyoto_0.0.2-1.dsc
 
 Regards, Thibaut.
 
 
 
 Le 16/04/12 17:10, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :
 Package: sponsorship-requests
 Severity: wishlist

 Dear mentors,

 I am looking for a sponsor for my package gyoto

  * Package name: gyoto
Version : 0.0.1-1
Upstream Author : Frédéric Vincent  myself
  * URL : http://gyoto.obspm.fr
  * License : GPL-3+
Section : science

 Gyoto aims at providing a framework for computing orbits and ray-traced 
 images
 in General relativity. It consists in a shared library (libgyoto0), utility
 programs (in the gyoto package), and a plug-in for the Yorick programing
 language (in yorick-gyoto). Gyoto can be extended with plug-ins (see
 libgyoto0-dev).

 The source package builds those binary packages:
  gyoto - General relativistic ray-tracing
  gyoto-dbg  - debugging symbols for gyoto, libgyoto0 and yorick-gyoto
  gyoto-doc  - documentation for the Gyoto library
  libgyoto0  - General relativistic geodesic integration and ray-tracing
  libgyoto0-dev - development files for libgyoto
  yorick-gyoto - General relativistic geodesic integration for the Yorick
 language

 To access further information about this package, please visit the following
 URL:
   http://mentors.debian.net/package/gyoto

 Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:
  dget -x http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gyoto/gyoto_0.0.1-1.dsc

 Once installed, the packages can be tested as follows (a test suite is 
 already
 ran during build):
  - gyoto package:
 Compute the example sceneries with
 for file in /usr/share/doc/gyoto/examples/example-*.xml; do gyoto ${file}
 `basename ${file%xml}fits`; done
 The two *rotstar* example file won't run, they depend on the option al plug-
 in lorene which is not compiled. The other files should produce FITS image
 files which you can visualize using e.g. spydr from the yorick-spydr package 
 or
 simply with the gimp :
 spydr *.fits

  - yorick-gyoto package:
 You can first run gyotoy:
 gyotoy
 You should see a plot representing the orbit of a star around a black hole. 
 You
 can play with the
 projection, the initial parameters etc.

 Then you can run the test suite:
 ln -s /usr/share/doc/gyoto/ doc
 cp -R /usr/share/doc/yorick-gyoto/examples ./
 cd examples
 gunzip *.gz
 yorick -batch check.i

 Best regards, Thibaut.



 -- System Information:
 Debian Release: wheezy/sid
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 Architecture: i386 (i686)

 Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-2-686-pae (SMP w/1 CPU core)



 
 
 
 




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Bug#669209: [PING] Re: Bug#669209: RFS: yp-svipc/0.13-1 [ITP] -- System V InterProcess Communication for Python/Yorick

2012-05-26 Thread Thibaut Paumard
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Le 08/05/12 09:43, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :
 Hi guys,
 
 I'd love it if someone could have a look at this package: 
 http://mentors.debian.net/package/yp-svipc
 
 It gives access to the system V interprocess communication
 mechanisms to the [1]yorick and python (2-3) interpreters. With
 this mechanisms, it becomes possible to do multi-process parallel
 scripting and to develop mixed yorick/python applications. [1]
 http://packages.debian.org/sid/yorick
 
 The Yorick plug-in can optionally be used for faster computations
 by YAO, a scientific software already in Debian: 
 http://packages.debian.org/sid/yorick-yao
 
 Since the initial ITP, I've worked with upstream to port the
 software to python 3 and to fix a couple of bugs.
 
 Best regards, Thibaut.
 
 
 Le 18/04/12 09:32, Thibaut Paumard a écrit :
 Package: sponsorship-requests Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: 
 debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org
 
 Dear mentors,
 
 I am looking for a sponsor for my package yp-svipc
 
 * Package name: yp-svipc Version : 0.13-1 Upstream 
 Author : Matthieu Bec * URL : 
 https://github.com/frigaut/yorick-svipc/ * License :
 GPL-3 Section : Python, Science Programming Lang: C,
 Yorick, Python Description : System V InterProcess
 Communication for Python/Yorick ITP :
 http://bugs.debian.org/668841
 
 It builds those binary packages:
 
 python-svipc - interprocess communication (shared memory...) for 
 Python yorick-svipc - interprocess communication (shared
 memory...) for Yorick
 
 To access further information about this package, please visit
 the following URL: http://mentors.debian.net/package/yp-svipc
 
 Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this 
 command: dget -x 
 http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/y/yp-svipc/yp-svipc_0.13-1.dsc

  When the two packages are installed, they can be tested with: - 
 yorick-only multiprocess computing: yorick -i 
 /usr/share/doc/yorick-svipc/examples/timing-demo.i -
 yorick/python communication: yorick -i 
 /usr/share/doc/yorick-svipc/examples/ping.i
 
 I have not been able to make it work under python3 so far (on 
 Linux: it works on a Mac).
 
 Regards, Thibaut Paumard.
 
 
 
 
 

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Bug#674564: RFS: gimp-gap/2.6.0+dfsg-3 [RC]

2012-05-25 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Package: sponsorship-requests
Severity: important

Dear mentors,

I am looking for a sponsor for my package gimp-gap

 * Package name: gimp-gap
   Version : 2.6.0+dfsg-3
   Upstream Author : Wolfgang Hofer h...@gimp.org  Sven Neumann
s...@gimp.org
 * URL : http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Using_GAP/
 * License : GPL-2+
   Section : graphics

It builds those binary packages:
  gimp-gap   - animation package for the GIMP

To access further information about this package, please visit the following 
URL:
  http://mentors.debian.net/package/gimp-gap

Alternatively, one can download the package with dget using this command:
  dget -x 
http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gimp-gap/gimp-gap_2.6.0+dfsg-3.dsc

More information about hello can be obtained from http://www.example.com.

Changes since the last upload:
  * fix FTBFS: http://bugs.debian.org/674393
  * add homepage control field
  * bump standards

Regards,
  Thibaut Paumard





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Re: SONAME best practice

2012-05-15 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 15/05/12 11:26, Daniel Pocock a écrit :
 I agree that this is valid and that these libs/pkgs can co-exist
 
 My preference would be for the soname libmusicbrainz.so.5, is there any 
 outright reason to avoid the other way of doing it, or it is largely at the 
 discretion of upstream in each case?
 
 

Upstream are free to do whatever they see fit (and Debian is free to
override it whenever *necessary*). As upstream, it's not easy to guess
what will more manageable in the longer run and what really matters is
that ABI changes end-up in SONAME changes. If those changes are funky...
sort of breaks the monotony of a rainy day :-)

Regards, Thibaut.


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Re: Changing SONAME in library version

2012-05-14 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 14/05/12 11:15, Olе Streicher a écrit :
 Dear mentors,
 
 could someone give me a hint on how to proceed here?

Dear Ole,

The release team will answer your [request] soon and let you know
whether it's OK to transition your packages. In the meantime you could
upload them to experimental to see whether they compile and run fine.
 [request] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671853

As a matter of fact, the new release of CPL fails to build on most
architectures! This is the reason for all the out of date excuses. In
addition, the package was [reported] to be uninstallable:
 [reported] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671675

You have two options:
 - work on the current release to get a decent version of DS9
   in wheezy, if not the most recent;
 - work on the transition, but it will be a lot of work and you
   are likely to miss wheezy.

One option is to do both:
 - push the working version of your packages in sid (depending on
   CPL 5.3).
 - push the next generation (depending on CPL 6.0) in experimental.
 - work on the build failures and on 671675 in experimental.
 - explain this plan to the release team. If they are OK, all you
   will have to do once the next generation is really ready in
   experimental is ask them (the release team) to migrate the whole
   to unstable and, eventually, testing.

To work on the build failures, you will need to:
 - read the build [logs];
 - ask for a [guest] account on the portboxes.
 [logs]  https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=cpl
 [guest] http://dsa.debian.org/doc/guest-account/

Best regards, Thibaut.



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Re: Changing SONAME in library version

2012-05-14 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 14/05/12 15:06, Olе Streicher a écrit :

 To work on the build failures, you will need to:
  - read the build [logs];
  - ask for a [guest] account on the portboxes.
  [logs]  https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=cpl
  [guest] http://dsa.debian.org/doc/guest-account/
 
 Since I am still a Newbee, I would need a sponsor to do so. Would you
 like, and are you already able to sponsor a guest account for me?

I would like to, but I can't.

Regards, Thibaut.


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Re: Changing SONAME in library version

2012-05-14 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 14/05/12 15:06, Olе Streicher a écrit :
 Some of the out-of-date excuses, however, result from the SONAME
 change (libcplcore12 -- libcplcore20), and I don't know hoe to handle
 them. 

As part of the transition, libcpl*12 will be removed from the archive,
which will suppress this excuse (so don't worry for that yet).

However, I don't get the deal will libcext-dev: why is it still at 5.3.1
whereas libcext0 has been updated to 0.6?

Regards, Thibaut.


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Re: Changing SONAME in library version

2012-05-14 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 14/05/12 16:31, Olе Streicher a écrit :
 Hi Thibaut,

Hi Ole,

 Thibaut Paumard mlotpot.n...@free.fr writes:
 Le 14/05/12 15:06, Olе Streicher a écrit :
 Some of the out-of-date excuses, however, result from the SONAME
 change (libcplcore12 -- libcplcore20), and I don't know hoe to handle
 them. 
 
 As part of the transition, libcpl*12 will be removed from the archive,
 which will suppress this excuse (so don't worry for that yet).
 
 Can't I remove them myself (together with the old esorex and python-cpl
 versions) when they all are in unstable?
 

Actually the removal from SID should occur automatically:
http://wiki.debian.org/ftpmaster_Removals

But the removal from testing is part of the transition and managed by
the release team.

In any case, the package won't migrate until you have resolved the
FTBFS: that's the real problem at hand.

 However, I don't get the deal will libcext-dev: why is it still at 5.3.1
 whereas libcext0 has been updated to 0.6?
 
 The cause for the RC bug is just that I accidently removed the
 libcext-dev section from the debian/control file. Simply re-inserting
 does the job (already done in the git repository; not uploaded yet
 because of the unresolved FTBS).

You should include this information in the bug report and tag it pending.

Regards, Thibaut.


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Re: (un)patching patched files

2012-05-10 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi Ole,

Le 10/05/12 13:18, Olе Streicher a écrit :
 Gergely Nagy alger...@balabit.hu writes:
 The patch in debian/patches will be large, possibly complicated and
 whatnot, but you can explain how it is created in debian/README.source,
 and live happily ever after.

 There are cases where a bit of ugliness is acceptable. This is one such
 case.
 
 I still do not see what one would gain with this compared to the
 debian/rules based solution. In principle, I would just need a target
 that is applied just before dpkg--after-build is called.

If you use a patch system, you should use it to do the patching: it's
just more consistent and much clearer for your fellow developers who
will look after your package should a NMU ever be necessary or to help
porting to other architectures for instance. Do yourself a favour and
just use a patch to patch whatever has to be patched.

 I have the same problem in another package: here, an executable is going
 to be renamed, and therefore also the manpage. Additionally, the manpage
 needs a patch. Since the manpage is renamed, unpatching it after build
 fails. Also for this case I would need a place to undo the renaming just
 before dpkg--after-build is called.

Why not copying instead of moving?

That said, I really don't get why dpkg--after-build does not call
debian/rules clean. It also causes breakages to my packages. I'll
investigate that someday.


Regards, Thibaut.


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