On Jan 14 2007, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
I think Daniel's quality standards are not exceptionally high, or low,
compared to other sponsors. That is, if you don't consider a newline
in a textfile a quality measure of course.
But the other comments he makes, regarding: proper attribution of
On Jan 14 2007, Muammar Wadih El Khatib Rodriguez wrote:
In the other hand I don't think he has something to change, I really
do appreciate all the work he does and how he does. He imposes a high
quality standard when he sponsors a package.
And this is what sets Debian apart from other
On Jan 14 2007, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
I think Daniel's quality standards are not exceptionally high, or low,
compared to other sponsors. That is, if you don't consider a newline
in a textfile a quality measure of course.
But the other comments he makes, regarding: proper attribution of
Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
If you take a look at some other sponsors,
you will see that if they have some criticism on a package, they will
often include *why* it is a problem, and/or how to solve it. This
doesn't have to be long.
this would take me
On Tuesday 16 January 2007 19:52, Jari Aalto wrote:
As to comes to removing # dh_* comments we agree to disagree on
this. I have no problem with
[name omitted]
considering that a good
practice, but I hope that all understad that developers may have
other views that may be equally valid.
* Roberto C. Sanchez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070114 20:43]:
Now, if something is a legitimate issue, it should be identified by
lintian and/or linda in addition to being mentioned in policy and/or the
developer reference.
Agreed.
Cheers,
Andi
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To
Jens Peter Secher wrote:
As others have mentioned,
some of the nitpicking is really your personal preferences, and not
really something that makes a new Developer much better at the tasks
involved in maintaining a package.
I disagree. While a superfluous dh_* command or blank line here and
Hi,
Marc Haber wrote:
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 04:58:13PM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
I often find the lists that Daniel posts to resemble commands remove
this., do not do that, this is bogus, that is useless but lacking
of background or guidance.
This might be a language problem. I am
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 21:21:00 +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
He imposes a high quality standard when he sponsors a package.
I'm not sure about this reference to a quality standard multiple people
in this thread are making. I did not question anything about the
quality, just about
Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
if you insist on keeping the useless stuff, i consider the package as to
ugly according to my mesures of beauty, and hence i'm not sponsoring it.
I think it would be better if you toned down this
do-as-I-say-or-I-wont-sponsor-you attitude. As others
On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 15:39 +0100, Jens Peter Secher wrote:
Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
if you insist on keeping the useless stuff, i consider the package as to
ugly according to my mesures of beauty, and hence i'm not sponsoring it.
I think it would be better if you toned
On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 16:43 +0100, Bart Martens wrote:
On the other hand, the sponsor is completely free to choose which
packages he wants to sponsor. And it is good that sponsors encourage
new packagers to have an eye for the little things too. Let's not shoot
Daniel for being just a bit
El dom, 14-01-2007 a las 16:58 +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst escribió:
On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 16:43 +0100, Bart Martens wrote:
On the other hand, the sponsor is completely free to choose which
packages he wants to sponsor. And it is good that sponsors encourage
new packagers to have an eye for the
Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
If you take a look at some other sponsors,
you will see that if they have some criticism on a package, they will
often include *why* it is a problem, and/or how to solve it. This
doesn't have to be long.
this would take me much more time to write the mail.
besides from
On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:39:45 +0100, Jens Peter Secher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
if you insist on keeping the useless stuff, i consider the package
as to ugly according to my mesures of beauty, and hence i'm not
sponsoring it.
As others have
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 04:58:13PM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
I often find the lists that Daniel posts to resemble commands remove
this., do not do that, this is bogus, that is useless but lacking
of background or guidance.
This might be a language problem. I am also a native speaker of
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 05:35:02PM +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote:
Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
If you take a look at some other sponsors,
you will see that if they have some criticism on a package, they will
often include *why* it is a problem, and/or how to solve it. This
doesn't have to be
Marc Haber wrote:
Since you regularly complain about the same things, you could use
Textbausteine. Whatever that might be in English ;)
this is work on progress, once i've completed it (in some years or so
:), i'll be able to point with numbers in a footnote to the verbose
explenations.
Jens Peter Secher wrote:
Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
if you insist on keeping the useless stuff, i consider the package as to
ugly according to my mesures of beauty, and hence i'm not sponsoring it.
I think it would be better if you toned down this
On 1/14/07, Thomas Goirand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jens Peter Secher wrote:
Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
if you insist on keeping the useless stuff, i consider the package as to
ugly according to my mesures of beauty, and hence i'm not sponsoring it.
I think it would be better
* Daniel Baumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070114 17:55]:
Marc Haber wrote:
Since you regularly complain about the same things, you could use
Textbausteine. Whatever that might be in English ;)
this is work on progress, once i've completed it (in some years or so
:), i'll be able to point with
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 03:11:54PM -0400, Muammar Wadih El Khatib Rodriguez
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 1/14/07, Thomas Goirand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jens Peter Secher wrote:
Daniel Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
if you insist on keeping the useless stuff, i consider the package as
Andreas Barth wrote:
(Taste
issues however won't go there, different people have different tastes,
that's a feature).
jftr: that is why i didn't, don't and will not consider to submit it for
the forseeable future, aside from that it is far from complete. however,
you and i said both excately
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 08:34:21PM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
Well, I would recommend that common packaging hints should go to the
developers reference, and please only one thing per bug report. (Taste
issues however won't go there, different people have different tastes,
that's a feature).
Mike Hommey wrote:
Too bad he doesn't apply his sponsoring standards on his own packages.
nobody is perfect, only a few old ones are not (yet) complying.
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Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
Now, if something is a legitimate issue, it should be identified by
lintian and/or linda in addition to being mentioned in policy and/or the
developer reference.
first, i'm a debian developer without any delegation (especially not for
anything mentors related). i'm
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 02:43:12PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
I agree. However, I think the issue concerns the requirement that
someone's preferences be followed. For example, it is one thing to say,
I can't sponsor your package because you use cdbs and I don't know
anything about it.
On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 15:11 -0400, Muammar Wadih El Khatib Rodriguez
wrote:
He imposes a high quality standard when he sponsors a package.
I'm not sure about this reference to a quality standard multiple people
in this thread are making. I did not question anything about the
quality, just about
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
I agree. However, I think the issue concerns the requirement that
someone's preferences be followed. For example, it is one thing to say,
I can't sponsor your package because you use cdbs and I don't know
anything about it. It is completely different to say, I
On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 04:29:58AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
Daniel many times told me that for example, I shouldn't use 2 blank
lines on my debian/rules, don't have empty space a end of line in my
copyright, and things like that.
I agree it doesn't mater MUCH, but it's still better the
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 09:09:30PM +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote:
first, i'm a debian developer without any delegation (especially not for
anything mentors related). i'm not even involved in anything with the
mentors infrastructure.
I applaud your work. There are too few people who are
Thomas Goirand wrote:
Daniel many times told me that for example, I shouldn't use 2 blank
lines on my debian/rules, don't have empty space a end of line in my
copyright, and things like that.
I agree it doesn't mater MUCH, but it's still better the way he advise
me to correct.
I would much
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
I would not seriously expect anyone to sponsor a package of mine with an
outstanding
issue like that.
please read the whole mail about his debian/rules and why i prefere to
not sponsor such packages. giving the impression, i wouldn't sponsor
packages due to
Roberto C Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
However, I choose to not change things which are a matter of preference,
then that should not impact the sponsor's willingness to sponsor the
package. For the potential sponsor to do that would come off as
elitist. What if I like two blank lines
On Sun, Jan 14, 2007 at 09:57:14PM +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote:
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
I would not seriously expect anyone to sponsor a package of mine with an
outstanding
issue like that.
please read the whole mail about his debian/rules and why i prefere to
not sponsor such
Muammar Wadih El Khatib Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In the other hand I don't think he has something to change, I really
do appreciate all the work he does and how he does. He imposes a high
quality standard when he sponsors a package.
Erm. Fixing the number of whitespaces in scripts,
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
Muammar Wadih El Khatib Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In the other hand I don't think he has something to change, I really
do appreciate all the work he does and how he does. He imposes a high
quality standard when he sponsors a package.
Erm. Fixing the
On 1/14/07, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Muammar Wadih El Khatib Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In the other hand I don't think he has something to change, I really
do appreciate all the work he does and how he does. He imposes a high
quality standard when he sponsors
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