make NM steps more healthy (Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-22 Thread Hideki Yamane
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:53:04 -0400 Stephen Birch sgbi...@imsmail.org wrote: * we don't want to blame someone * we don't want to be harmed or ignored by someone * we know everyone has their own issues (on the job, with family, etc...) but applicants want to get the reply as soon as possible

Re: make NM steps more healthy (Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-22 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Sun Mar 22 16:30, Hideki Yamane wrote: So... we should improve NM process in this time. There is already a discussion about changing our membership process going on[0]. When we get to more concrete parts of the discussion this should certain be part of it. Matt 0.

Re: make NM steps more healthy (Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-22 Thread Steffen Joeris
On Sun, 22 Mar 2009 06:30:17 pm Hideki Yamane wrote: On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:53:04 -0400 Stephen Birch sgbi...@imsmail.org wrote: * we don't want to blame someone * we don't want to be harmed or ignored by someone * we know everyone has their own issues (on the job, with family, etc...)

Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-21 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi Enrico, thanks for reply. On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 15:41:20 + Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org wrote: Accounts are created in batch. For this reason, you will see a lot of reports with 0 applicants became maintainers and sometimes you will see a report with a lot of applicants becoming

Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-21 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi Gunnar, On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:40:58 -0600 Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote: NM is far from perfect, as it has already been said, but it is what we have. And FWIW, we have improved it quite a bit. Yes, yes. But I think more improvements are required for Debian now. # Kaizen is good thing

Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-21 Thread Stephen Birch
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hideki Hideki Yamane wrote: And Timing is important factor. For example, some of people who applies to NM has changed his job (some are doctors) and became so busy for work while its process, and they cannot do anything with Debian. It's sad

Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:35:14AM -0400, Stephen Birch wrote: During my own own multi year attempt I passed all the tests and then waited and waited and waited. Gave up ... requested a new AM The new AM wanted my packages cleaned a little, so I took care of that. Then I waited and waited

Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-21 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi Lucas, On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 16:36:14 +0100 Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net wrote: Check https://nm.debian.org/nmlist.php: Okay, I saw it. 4 applicants are waiting for Front Desk approval. 14 applicants are waiting for DAM approval. In both case, we already have a team of people

Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-17 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 17/03/09 at 21:22 +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: Hi, Just a question. # I'm not familiar with NM process now. On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:56:02 -0600 NM Front Desk new-maintai...@debian.org wrote: Weekly Summary Statistics = 2 more people applied to become a new

Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-17 Thread Ďoďo
Another question Patrick, Real example: More then year ago I applied to become Debian developer. After some time I got answer that rule has change and I need to maintain at least to packages and I should wait for 1 year. My question is: Why should I come after 1 year again? I continue to maintain

Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-17 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 09:22:12PM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 23:56:02 -0600 NM Front Desk new-maintai...@debian.org wrote: Weekly Summary Statistics = 2 more people applied to become a new maintainer 0 applicants became maintainers. Why any

Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-17 Thread Patrick Ouellette
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:31:58PM +0100, Ďoďo wrote: Another question Patrick, Real example: More then year ago I applied to become Debian developer. After some time I got answer that rule has change and I need to maintain at least to packages and I should wait for 1 year. My question

Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-17 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Lucas Nussbaum dijo [Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:36:14PM +0100]: Why any people cannot become a new Debian Developer in these days? What is the bottleneck for that, or there is any reason? We needs more and more developers, I think. # but I don't want to blame someone. Just want to

Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-17 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Ďoďo dijo [Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 04:31:58PM +0100]: Another question Patrick, Real example: More then year ago I applied to become Debian developer. After some time I got answer that rule has change and I need to maintain at least to packages and I should wait for 1 year. My question is:

Re: Why 0 new developer? (Re: NM Report for Week Ending 15 Mar 2009)

2009-03-17 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Hideki Yamane dijo [Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 09:22:12PM +0900]: Weekly Summary Statistics = 2 more people applied to become a new maintainer 0 applicants became maintainers. Why any people cannot become a new Debian Developer in these days? What is the bottleneck