Re: Advocating Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc

2010-05-09 Thread Enrico Zini
On Sun, May 02, 2010 at 11:10:31AM +0800, LI Daobing wrote:

 He has become Debian maintainer since 2010-02-27, it's a little short
 between the end of DM process and the start of DD process, but the DD
 process is very long, so we still have enough time to check his skill
 and perseverance on Debian project.
 And Debian is really lack of manpower.

Sorry for my delay, I have been caught in a mix of family business and
ash clouds.

I am afraid I have a bit of a problem with your advocacy. Please see:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/11/msg5.html

  Advocation in the NM process
  
  [...]
  When you advocate a person, you are saying that they need and should get
  unsupervised upload rights on the entire archive, right now. In the past
  some people were advocated who at the time had not yet done any Debian
  related work. Please only advocate people who have contributed to Debian
  already, don't advocate someone that you expect will get involved in
  Debian later on. Having to cancel an application, or having someone
  disappear while in the NM process, is a waste of time and motivation for
  everyone involved.

  As such, we prefer that people who want to apply to NM have been active
  in Debian for a while already, and have built up some experience. In the
  last few months, we've already redirected some people to the DM process
  when we felt that they were not ready to become a DD yet, and we will
  continue to do so. Please consider this an official policy as of now.

Please note that I am not questioning Luke's knowledge, motivation or
experience, since I do not yet know anything about them.

There used to be a habit of advocating people for DD early, reasoning
that NM takes a long time and there will be an AM checking the applicant
anyway. We found that this approach was one of the main reasons the NM
process took a long time, and that since now with sponsorship and then
DM there are plenty of ways to gain Debian experience, it's best to
reduce the NM process to a quick oh, yes, indeed you're good[1], which
makes it easier for the applicant as well as for the AM.

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/FrontDesk/Tips

So I'd rather you advocated Luke when you know he should get an
account ASAP, make a good case for it, and then we get him an account
ASAP, than risking to start a long, hideous mix of AM/mentoring that
would be a waste of time and enthousiasm both for Luke (who could have
more fun, and learn more, doing actual real Debian work) and for the AM.


Ciao,

Enrico

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Re: Advocating Adam Schmalhofer adam.schmalho...@gmx.de

2010-05-09 Thread Enrico Zini
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 08:29:45PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote:

  Auth-Key: nmauth8fe886f8106aba6aab9d45532d419081
  Applicant: Adam Schmalhofer adam.schmalho...@gmx.de
  
  Why do you advocate this person? (please provide a 5-10 line summary).
 
 I have been sponsoring three of Adam's packages [0][1][2] since December
 2009.
 
 In this time Adam has shown he is skillful and he understands Debian's
 processes, policies and technical requirements. I find he is also friendly
 and responds quickly to feedback and new upstream releases.
 
 
  [0] http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/execnet.html
  [1] http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/apipkg.html
  [2] http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pytest-xdist.html

Hello Chris,

is there a reason you have not advocated Adam for DM yet?

I'd like to make sure this is really a DD advocacy and not a mistargeted
DM advocacy: those three packages have really low popcon and look like
they never received a single bug report. I see other activity of Adam in
the BTS, though.

There is now a preference to have people enter DD once they have
accumulated some experience, possibly also as DM which allows
unsupervised uploads, unless there are reasons not to do so.

The goal is to have people advocated when they are ready to have a DD
account *right now*, and aim at a swift NM process both for the
applicant and for the AM.  See 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/11/msg5.html
at Advocation in the NM process.


Ciao,

Enrico

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Re: Advocating William Vera bi...@billy.com.mx

2010-05-09 Thread Enrico Zini
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 11:06:13PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:

 I have not directly worked Debian-wise with William, but know him from
 the Free Software activities in my country - and have talked with him
 several times. I have reviewed his currently sponsored work in Debian,
 and is very well kept, which speaks well about his personal abilities

Just one clarification: you say I have not directly worked Debian-wise
with William, and that phrase raises a FD alarm bell about this size:
http://www.1-800-4clocks.com/images/Big-Ben-Clock-Bell-London.jpg

However you say that you have reviewed his sponsored work in Debian. The
two statements are, as I see it, contradictory, unless it was just a
quick review.

Also considering how it went 6 months ago, I would feel more comfortable
if I saw another advocacy message from one of the people who actually
sponsor his uploads. 

I see many people are sponsoring his packages, so it should not be a big
problem:

  $ who-uploads shtool
  Uploads for shtool:
  2.0.8-4 to unstable: Jan Hauke Rahm j...@debian.org
  2.0.8-3 to unstable: Daniel Baumann dan...@debian.org
  2.0.8-2 to unstable: Daniel Baumann dan...@debian.org
  $ who-uploads hwinfo
  Uploads for hwinfo:
  16.0-2 to unstable: Barry deFreese bdefre...@debian.org
  16.0-1 to unstable: Alexander Schmehl toli...@debian.org
  15.3-2 to unstable: Alexander Schmehl toli...@debian.org
  $ who-uploads scrot
  Uploads for scrot:
  0.8-11 to unstable: George Danchev danc...@spnet.net
  0.8-10 to unstable: Patrick Matthäi (Debian) pmatth...@debian.org
  0.8-9 to unstable: unrecognised public key (73CDA455)

I am not in fact Cc-ing them now because there are too many and I don't
want to end up spamming people :)  But if you could please ask whoever
of them you think is more appropriate to chime in, I'd really appreciate
it. Feel free to quote this message to them if you think it would help.


Ciao,

Enrico

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NM Report for Week Ending 09 May 2010

2010-05-09 Thread NM Front Desk
  Weekly Report on Debian New Maintainers
  ===

For week ending 09 May 2010.

Weekly Summary Statistics
=
1 more people applied to become a Debian Developer
9 applicants became maintainers.

New Maintainers
===
The following applicants became new maintainers last week:
Kanru Chen kos...@debian.org.tw
Mikhail Gusarov dotted...@dottedmag.net
Obey Arthur Liu art...@milliways.fr
Thierry Soloniaina Randrianiriana randrianiri...@gmail.com
Ritesh Sarraf r...@researchut.com
Tommi Vainikainen t...@iki.fi
Thomas Weber thomas.weber.m...@gmail.com
Hideki Yamane henr...@debian.or.jp
Serafeim Zanikolas ser...@hellug.gr


The following DDs are now 6 months old and can decide to become AMs: ;)
David Paleino d.pale...@gmail.com

Applicants with no advocate
===
The following applicants have no advocate and have been waiting in the queue
for longer than 3 weeks but less than 6 weeks:
dhinu varma enjoy_life2...@breakthru.com
Email will be sent to the applicants.

Random checks
===
The following applicants have completed all checks but are not
approved by their AM:

  m.schutte...@gmail.com (petere)
  sc...@kitterman.com (pkern)
  jeffrey.ratcli...@gmail.com (winnie)

The following applicants are not AM approved but have an inactive AM:

  jeremie.corb...@resel.enst-bretagne.fr (adeodato)

The following applicants have been on hold longer than 6 months:

  timo.schnei...@s2004.tu-chemnitz.de (bas) 2007-08-20
  inv...@edena-fr.org (bas) 2007-08-20
  marc...@gmail.com (madcoder)  2007-11-10
  michael.ha...@gmail.com (adn) 2007-11-17
  heik...@gmail.com (bas)   2008-04-18
  j...@apuntale.com (bzed)  2008-06-29
  j...@freedesktop.org (lucas)  2008-07-13
  hfren...@scunc.net (brlink)   2008-10-31
  cesar.go...@gmail.com (bzed)  2009-01-15
  dan...@daniel-watkins.co.uk (bzed)2009-01-18
  wi...@wm1.at (bzed)   2009-01-22
  mar...@stigge.org (anibal)2009-01-23
  deb...@psabs.com.br (francois)2009-06-20
  andr...@putzo.net (bzed)  2009-06-23
  harsh...@gmail.com (enrico)   2009-08-23
  garridom...@gmail.com (enrico)2009-09-03
  bryan.sut...@hp.com (don) 2009-10-06
  arnaud.kyh...@free.fr (don)   2009-10-06
  manphiz-gu...@users.alioth.debian.org (gwolf) 2009-10-19
  miguelangel.frei...@gmail.com (enrico)2009-11-05
  matth...@sigxcpu.org (enrico) 2009-11-05

The following assigned NMs had no apparent activity in the last 18 months:

  Gerardo Curiel gcur...@debianvenezuela.org (kroeckx) since 47 months
  Julian Mehnle jul...@mehnle.net (moray) since 45 months
  Ralph Amissah ralph.amis...@gmail.com (marga) since 44 months
  Kęstutis Biliūnas ke...@kaunas.init.lt (formorer) since 41 months
  Ernesto Crespo ecre...@debianvenezuela.org (formorer) since 39 months
  Marcus Better mar...@better.se (jcristau) since 39 months
  Luca Bedogni m...@lucabedogni.it (anibal) since 33 months
  Alan Baghumian a...@technotux.org (don) since 33 months
  Muammar El Khatib muammarelkha...@gmail.com (santiago) since 20 months


Database inconsistency errors
-
  AM name is in brackets.
AM confirm date occurs before AM assignment date
  m...@tls.msk.ru: 2010-04-01 occurs after 2009-12-09 (spectra)
  henr...@debian.or.jp: 2010-03-29 occurs after 2009-09-01 (enrico)
  randrianiri...@gmail.com: 2010-01-25 occurs after 2006-02-20 (zack)
  d.pale...@gmail.com: 2009-06-23 occurs after 2008-05-03 (bzed)
  fsate...@gmail.com: 2010-04-08 occurs after 2009-09-03 (gwolf)
  manphiz-gu...@users.alioth.debian.org: 2009-07-30 occurs after 2008-08-05 
(gwolf)
  s...@linux.it: 2009-10-06 occurs after 2008-09-26 (enrico)


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