Re: http://wiki.debian.org/FrontDesk/Tips
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 06:21:32PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: The first bit that I wanted to add to it was Things to do before asking questions from the templates, where I'd like to condensate some of the things discussed during Debconf. Ah. Are there records of those discussions? Was DAM involved? It seems to involve trying to reduce the templated questions asked so I was wondering how as an AM you know if you've asked enough to satisfy FD and DAM. -- ,--huggie-at-earth-dot-listuff-thing-stuff--DF5CE2B4--. _| Cows turn themselves inside out all the time. - Officer, South Park |_ | | ` http://www.earth.li/~huggie/ ---' signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: http://wiki.debian.org/FrontDesk/Tips
Hi! Simon Huggins schrieb: Ah. Are there records of those discussions? No, not all sessions could be covered :( Was DAM involved? Yes, at least Jörg Ganneff Jaspert and Wouter were present, maybe Christoph Myon Berg, too, but I could be wrong with Christoph (having a seat in the row behing the last one). Best regards, Alexander signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
AM report for Carl Worth cwo...@cworth.org
1. Identification Account Data First name: Carl Last name: Worth Key fingerprint: 1024D/AF2A4968 FA69 2554 8C9A C52C 311B 4A9D E890 DD36 AF2A 4968 Account: cworth Forward email: cwo...@cworth.org ID check passed, key signed by several existing developers. Output from keycheck.sh: Syncing Debian Keyrings with rsync from keyring.debian.org Receiving and checking key gpg: requesting key AF2A4968 from hkp server keys.gnupg.net gpg: NOTE: signature key D70AAFF9 expired Tue Feb 17 09:15:24 2009 GMT gpg: NOTE: signature key D70AAFF9 expired Tue Feb 17 09:15:24 2009 GMT gpg: NOTE: signature key D70AAFF9 expired Tue Feb 17 09:15:24 2009 GMT gpg: NOTE: signature key D70AAFF9 expired Tue Feb 17 09:15:24 2009 GMT gpg: NOTE: signature key D70AAFF9 expired Tue Feb 17 09:15:24 2009 GMT gpg: NOTE: signature key D70AAFF9 expired Tue Feb 17 09:15:24 2009 GMT gpg: NOTE: signature key D70AAFF9 expired Tue Feb 17 09:15:24 2009 GMT pub 1024D/AF2A4968 2001-12-11 Key fingerprint = FA69 2554 8C9A C52C 311B 4A9D E890 DD36 AF2A 4968 uid Carl Worth cwo...@cworth.org sig! F2CF01A8 2005-04-23 Bdale Garbee bd...@gag.com sig! B28C5995 2005-04-25 Brendan O'Dea b...@debian.org sig! 37A79149 2005-07-21 Stuart R. Anderson ander...@netsweng.com sig! 6ADBB200 2005-07-21 Michel Daenzer mic...@daenzer.net sig!125BCD5BF 2005-04-20 Pascal Hakim p...@jhk.net.au sig!2D70AAFF9 2005-04-20 Matthias Urlichs sm...@smurf.noris.de sig!2A7D91602 2005-04-20 Andrew Pollock apoll...@debian.org sig!2E160649A 2005-04-25 Matt Hope do...@debian.org sig!28E7C03FF 2005-05-19 Matthew Wilcox wi...@debian.org sig!2128287E8 2005-06-04 Dafydd Harries d...@rhydd.org sig!3096C4DD3 2005-01-08 Keith Packard kei...@keithp.com sig!364011A8B 2005-04-26 Jonathan Oxer (Linux Australia) j...@linux.org.au sig!31880283C 2005-05-02 Anibal Monsalve Salazar ani...@debian.org sig!3AF2A4968 2004-11-16 Carl Worth cwo...@cworth.org [...cut away revoked UIDs...] sub 1024g/8E3CD8D6 2001-12-11 sig! AF2A4968 2001-12-11 Carl Worth cwo...@cworth.org Let's test if its a version 4 or greater key Key is OpenPGP version 4 or greater. Good! Check for key expire stuff Valid e flag on key 0xE890DD36AF2A4968, no expiration Valid s flag on key 0xE890DD36AF2A4968, no expiration 2. Background - Applicant writes: I have been running Linux-based free-software distributions since 1996. My first exposures were to Slackware and Red Hat Linux, but as soon as I discovered Debian it felt immediately like home to me, and I've been running it ever since. I've been making free-software contributions since about 2000 with my most significant contribution being the creation and maintenance of the cairo graphics library (http://cairographics.org). I also make regular contributions to the X.org, (particularly the intel driver). Bdale Garbee has been encouraging me to become more formally involved with Debian, and invited me to start co-maintaining several of his packages. I've been working through the bug lists for gzip and tar and fixing as much as possible there. In the future I'd like to take a more active role in helping with the maintenance of software I've actually written, (such as cairo and X). And I might have the odd project or two to contribute as new packages. Google says: From a quick search, there are computer science papers with Carl's name, activity in X since at least 2002, he founded the Cairo project together with Keith Packard (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cairo_(graphics)), he created (or was among the creators of) the ipkg package manager for Embedded systems (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipkg), he seems to have been a RedHat maintainer since at least 2002 and he has worked for RedHat for 4 years. There is indeed much more, but I think this gives the idea. Also, this is a result of my playing with Google and is by no means intended to be complete or precise. 3. Philosophy and Procedures - Carl has a good understanding of Debian's philosophy and procedures and answered all my questions about the social contract, DFSG, BTS, etc. in a good way. Carl committed to uphold the SC and DFSG in his Debian work and accepts the DMUP. 4. Tasks and Skills --- Carl has a good understanding of the technical side of Debian. Carl is comaintainer of gzip and tar (sponsored by Bdale Garbee). All packages are in good shape. Carl also answered my other questions regarding TS without problems and provided manpages and patches for RC bugs. 5. Recommendation - I recommend to
Re: http://wiki.debian.org/FrontDesk/Tips
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 10:07:53AM +0100, Simon Huggins wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 06:21:32PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: The first bit that I wanted to add to it was Things to do before asking questions from the templates, where I'd like to condensate some of the things discussed during Debconf. Ah. Are there records of those discussions? Was DAM involved? It seems to involve trying to reduce the templated questions asked so I was wondering how as an AM you know if you've asked enough to satisfy FD and DAM. The notes have been posted here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2009/07/msg00034.html I think that the main thing that can be extracted from the notes to answer your question is this one: - common sense is more effective that you'd imagine I'm neither part of FD nor DAM, but that was IIRC the consensus during the BOF. Ciao, Enrico -- GPG key: 4096R/E7AD5568 2009-05-08 Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: http://wiki.debian.org/FrontDesk/Tips
Enrico Zini dijo [Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 04:58:22PM +0100]: The first bit that I wanted to add to it was Things to do before asking questions from the templates, where I'd like to condensate some of the things discussed during Debconf. Ah. Are there records of those discussions? Was DAM involved? It seems to involve trying to reduce the templated questions asked so I was wondering how as an AM you know if you've asked enough to satisfy FD and DAM. The notes have been posted here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-newmaint/2009/07/msg00034.html I think that the main thing that can be extracted from the notes to answer your question is this one: - common sense is more effective that you'd imagine I'm neither part of FD nor DAM, but that was IIRC the consensus during the BOF. A couple of weeks before this discussion, I was talking about this same topic with Mako, who stopped by for some days in Mexico (and who I am adding as a Cc: in case he does not follow -newmaint). He strongly stressed that he never follows the template questions, and I found his position quite sound. Although more time-consuming and engaging for the AM (and possibly for FD+DAM at the review, as they would not be familiar at all with the topics discussed), engaging in a true conversation leading to find the weakest -or most interesting- spots in an applicant's PP and TS. Mako told me he used to push people to stay away from templates, but is less pushy nowadays as he is less active/visible here. He told me he would publish (at least in an AM-visible way) a couple of his mail interchanges — I believe we can learn a bit from that approach. So, this mail is basically to push him to do so :) -- Gunnar Wolf • gw...@gwolf.org • (+52-55)5623-0154 / 1451-2244 pgpo5bUxLfu08.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: http://wiki.debian.org/FrontDesk/Tips
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote: Simon Huggins schrieb: Ah. Are there records of those discussions? No, not all sessions could be covered :( This one was specifically not recorded in case we had to discuss examples of problematic NM. Was DAM involved? Yes, at least Jörg Ganneff Jaspert and Wouter were present, maybe Christoph Myon Berg, too, but I could be wrong with Christoph (having a seat in the row behing the last one). Ganneff was there but not Myon. Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-newmaint-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: AM report for Franck Joncourt franck.m...@dthconnex.com
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:09:46 +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: 2. Background - Applicant writes: In the meantime, I found a nice software to work on: fwknop. Unfortunately, there was no Debian package. Thus, I decided to do my first package. It took me a while to make it work as I wanted, but I really enjoyed it. Talking with upstream and Debian members to get something nice was really a pleasure. I joined the Debian perl group for that purpose and I try to help when I can. 4. Tasks and Skills --- He is also a member of the debian-perl group, and has done several uploads of various perl packages. Right, Franck is a member of the pkg-perl group since May 2005 or so; it was pleasant to prepare the first packages with him, and since then he steadily takes care of them and helps out with others. 5. Recommendation - I recommend to accept Franck as a Debian Developer. /me 2 Cheers, gregor -- .''`. http://info.comodo.priv.at/ -- GPG Key IDs: 0x00F3CFE4, 0x8649AA06 : :' : Debian GNU/Linux user, admin, developer - http://www.debian.org/ `. `' Member of VIBE!AT, SPI Inc., fellow of FSFE | http://got.to/quote/ `-NP: Bettina Wegner: Für meine weggegangenen Freunde signature.asc Description: Digital signature