Re: development package in devel?

2005-04-26 Thread Russ Allbery
David Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tuesday 26 April 2005 20:53, Russ Allbery wrote: >> If there is some good documentation of archive sections that I've >> overlooked, please do let me know. > I tend to use dselect, but there are others who like aptitude more. > In case of utter conf

Re: development package in devel?

2005-04-26 Thread David Schmitt
On Tuesday 26 April 2005 20:53, Russ Allbery wrote: > If there is some good documentation of archive sections that I've > overlooked, please do let me know. I tend to use dselect, but there are others who like aptitude more. In case of utter confusion, asking on -mentor is probably a good idea to

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:57:53AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> dbs, one of the larger contributors to this particular packaging style, >> uses "setup", so if "setup" was used all the dbs packages at least >> would immediately satisfy the should. > Y

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:57:53AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > David Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Tuesday 26 April 2005 16:14, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > >> True. What I'm looking for is something unique; so 'source' is clearly > >> right out. Perhaps 'edit' could be better, or 'fin

Re: development package in devel?

2005-04-26 Thread Luk Claes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Russ Allbery wrote: > David Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >>As a non-DD I'd say that that is not a question of policy, but of >>quality of implementation: There are tools which rely on the section of >>a package to reason about them (deborp

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Russ Allbery
David Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tuesday 26 April 2005 16:14, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> True. What I'm looking for is something unique; so 'source' is clearly >> right out. Perhaps 'edit' could be better, or 'finish'. Suggestions are >> most certainly welcome. > 'prepare' ? dbs, on

Re: development package in devel?

2005-04-26 Thread Russ Allbery
David Schmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As a non-DD I'd say that that is not a question of policy, but of > quality of implementation: There are tools which rely on the section of > a package to reason about them (deborphan for example). > So unless you have a good reason for putting that pac

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread David Schmitt
On Tuesday 26 April 2005 16:14, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 04:07:01PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > Don't know why, this must be way before my time in Debian... > > It would be good to check for the amount of packages affected by that > > nevertheless. > > True. What I'm

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 04:07:01PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 02:37:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:26:41PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:32:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > > + In ad

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Andreas Barth
* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050426 15:10]: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:26:41PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:32:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > + In addition, maintainers should create a target > > > + source to the debian/rules file. This >

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 02:37:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:26:41PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:32:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > + In addition, maintainers should create a target > > > + source to the debian/rules f

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 04:07:01PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 02:37:34PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Both cases where I used 'must' do not make packages instantly buggy, > > since they only apply to the 'source' target (that is the idea, at > > least; if the wor

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:32:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > I'm hereby rescinding all previous proposals I made on #250202, to > replace them with the following: > > --- policy.sgml.orig 2005-04-26 11:02:02.0 +0200 > +++ policy.sgml 2005-04-26 11:28:10.0 +0200 > (...)

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 01:26:41PM +0200, Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:32:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > + In addition, maintainers should create a target > > + source to the debian/rules file. This > > + target, if present, should unpack source archives

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Tue, Apr 26, 2005 at 11:32:17AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > + In addition, maintainers should create a target > + source to the debian/rules file. This > + target, if present, should unpack source archives, apply > + patches, generate files, and generally prepare the

Bug#250202: Alternate proposal

2005-04-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Hi, There have been two suggestions to fix this issue: * Mandate common names for debian/rules targets, * Use a debian/README.source to document used debian/rules targets. At first sight, these seem to be conflicting, especially if one considers Bill's objection to suggesting names. However, as I

Re: development package in devel?

2005-04-26 Thread David Schmitt
On Tuesday 26 April 2005 02:49, Joerg Sommer wrote: > must be a development package (with header files) be in libdevel? > Currently libmodplug-dev is in sound, but I thought the policy says > packages they are intented on development must be in devel or libdevel. > But I can't find where it is said