Re: Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1999-01-30 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Santiago Vila) wrote on 15.01.99 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 14 Jan 1999, Ian Jackson wrote: Santiago Vila writes (Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases): ... Policy says: A package may not modify a configuration file of another package

Re: Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1999-01-16 Thread Steve Greenland
On 14-Jan-99, 08:03 (CST), Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Santiago Vila writes (Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases): ... Policy says: A package may not modify a configuration file of another package. Why don't we change this to: A package may

Re: Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1999-01-14 Thread Ian Jackson
Santiago Vila writes (Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases): ... Policy says: A package may not modify a configuration file of another package. Why don't we change this to: A package may not modify a configuration file of another package, except by arrangement

Re: Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Santiago == Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Santiago On 2 Dec 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Why is this report a policy bug? I see no contradicxtion here at all, I just see two buggy MTA packages. /etc/aliases, as reading policy tells one, can not, and should not, be a conffile

Re: Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-04 Thread Steve Greenland
On 03-Dec-98, 18:21 (CST), Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Polcy is very confused about configuration file as opposed to conffile, and appears to use the terms inter changeably (I have copies of a large post I made to the policy list a few months ago). Clarifying

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-04 Thread Manoj Srivastava
retitle 29770 [PROPOSED] Differentiate between conffile and configuration file severity 29770 wishlist thanks -- If a guru falls in the forest with no one to hear him, was he really a guru at all? Strange de Jim, The Metasexuals Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Processed: Re: Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-04 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: retitle 29770 [PROPOSED] Differentiate between conffile and configuration file Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases Changed bug title. severity 29770 wishlist Bug#29770: [PROPOSED] Differentiate between conffile and configuration

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-04 Thread Santiago Vila
On 4 Dec 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: retitle 29770 [PROPOSED] Differentiate between conffile and configuration file severity 29770 wishlist thanks Thank you :-) -- f39c2ad9c1af409d7b03cfec33c3d04c (a truly random sig)

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote: Why is this report a policy bug? I see no contradicxtion here at all, I just see two buggy MTA packages. /etc/aliases, as reading policy tells one, can not, and should not, be a conffile at all. I reopened it since your reason for closing it was

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-03 Thread Joel Klecker
At 02:41 +0100 1998-12-03, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote: Why is this report a policy bug? I see no contradicxtion here at all, I just see two buggy MTA packages. /etc/aliases, as reading policy tells one, can not, and should not, be a conffile at all. I

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-03 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Wichert == Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wichert I reopened it since your reason for closing it was Wichert false. Incorrect? Does not false imply intent? Wichert Feel free to close this, as long as you also file bugs Wichert against sendmail and exim at the same

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-03 Thread Santiago Vila
On 2 Dec 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Why is this report a policy bug? I see no contradicxtion here at all, I just see two buggy MTA packages. /etc/aliases, as reading policy tells one, can not, and should not, be a conffile at all. Even if /etc/aliases stops being a conffile, it

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-03 Thread Richard Braakman
Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, Wichert == Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wichert I reopened it since your reason for closing it was Wichert false. Incorrect? Does not false imply intent? Not in computing science :) I don't know what the terminology is in the US, but

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Manoj Srivastava wrote: Incorrect? Does not false imply intent? Not that I know of. Then again, I'm not a native English speaker so I might just not know that. Wichert. -- == This combination of bytes

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-03 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Joel Klecker wrote: Huh? exim doesn't claim /etc/aliases as a conffile. Even better! (I forgot who, but someone said both sendmail and exim listed aliases as a conffile, which is why I mentioned it). WIchert. --

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-03 Thread Mark Baker
On Wed, Dec 02, 1998 at 11:23:19PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I shall file a bug against sendmail ,which I do have installed. I shan't file one against exim, since I can't verify that, and some one has posted saying that exim does not declare /etc/aliases a conffile. Indeed it

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Why is this report a policy bug? I see no contradicxtion here at all, I just see two buggy MTA packages. /etc/aliases, as reading policy tells one, can not, and should not, be a conffile at all. In this particular case I agree with policy. I do not think that any

Processed: Re: Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-12-01 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: reopen 29770 Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases Bug reopened, originator not changed. thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. Ian Jackson (administrator, Debian bugs database)

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-11-30 Thread Santiago Vila
On 28 Nov 1998, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Since /etc/aliases is not a conf file belonging to any package whatsoever, sectiosn 4.7 and 5.5 are not in conflict. I am closing this report. Please, read carefully the bug report. Policy says: A package may not modify a configuration file of

Re: Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-11-29 Thread Joey Hess
4.7. Configuration files If two or more packages use the same configuration file, one of these packages has to be defined as _owner_ of the configuration file, i.e., it has to list the file as `conffile' and has to provide a program that

Re: Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-11-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 4.7. Configuration files If two or more packages use the same configuration file, one of these packages has to be defined as _owner_ of the configuration file, i.e., it has to list the file as `conffile' and

Re: Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-11-29 Thread Joey Hess
Manoj Srivastava wrote: Please explain the rationale for this. As long as user changes are preserved, why should a program designed to modify a conffile not modify it? I was using conffile to mean anything registered as a conffile with dpkg - just to make sure we have our terminology

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-11-29 Thread Richard Braakman
Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, Since /etc/aliases is not a conf file belonging to any package whatsoever, sectiosn 4.7 and 5.5 are not in conflict. I am closing this report. This is not true. Both smail and sendmail have /etc/aliases as a conffile. Richard Braakman

Re: Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-11-29 Thread Bob Hilliard
I believe that part of policy was put in for a purpose, and I think it has legitimate uses. A developer who uses it must be careful to avoid harmful consequences, but in some cases it is necessary to avoid disrupting messages during installation, and to avoid user surprise. Bob Joey Hess

Re: Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-11-29 Thread Adam Di Carlo
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Braakman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Manoj Srivastava wrote: Since /etc/aliases is not a conf file belonging to any package whatsoever, sectiosn 4.7 and 5.5 are not in conflict. I am closing this report. This is not true. Both smail and sendmail have

Re: Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-11-29 Thread Joey Hess
Bob Hilliard wrote: I believe that part of policy was put in for a purpose, and I think it has legitimate uses. A developer who uses it must be careful to avoid harmful consequences, but in some cases it is necessary to avoid disrupting messages during installation, and to avoid user

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-11-28 Thread Adam Di Carlo
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have discovered a little inconsistency in the policy. Section 5.5, Mail transport agents says: /etc/aliases is the source file for the system mail aliases (e.g., postmaster, usenet, etc.)--it is the one which the

Bug#29770: Policy contradicts itself about /etc/aliases

1998-11-20 Thread Santiago Vila
Package: debian-policy Version: 2.5.0.0 I have discovered a little inconsistency in the policy. Section 5.5, Mail transport agents says: /etc/aliases is the source file for the system mail aliases (e.g., postmaster, usenet, etc.)--it is the one which the sysadmin and postinst scripts