Re: Bug#538392: group staff: moving forward

2009-08-12 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Don Armstrong wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Santiago Vila wrote: Could we please move the default to 755, not 2775, like every other normal directory in Debian? There is little point in keeping those directories world-writable if they stop being owned by group staff.

Bug#538392: group staff: moving forward

2009-08-12 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Santiago Vila wrote: No need to add configuration stuff. If a user wants something different than the default, he/she can easily make a chown and a chgrp. chown and chgrp is exactly the method of configuration I mean. Let's keep it simple: Beginning squeeze, base-files

Re: Bug#538392: group staff: moving forward

2009-08-12 Thread Russ Allbery
Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es writes: Let's keep it simple: Beginning squeeze, base-files will no longer create those directories with special permissions. I think this respects the principle of least surprise, as already created directories (from lenny) will be kept in whatever status they

Bug#538392: group staff: moving forward

2009-08-11 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
Hi, The TC has decided on the following resolution for the group staff issue: | 2. Decide to change the default so that /usr/local is not writeable by | group staff anymore. This change should only be implemented after an | appropriate transition plan exists which enables system

Bug#538392: group staff: moving forward

2009-08-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Thijs Kinkhorst th...@debian.org writes: The TC has decided on the following resolution for the group staff issue: | 2. Decide to change the default so that /usr/local is not writeable by | group staff anymore. This change should only be implemented after an | appropriate transition plan

Re: Bug#538392: group staff: moving forward

2009-08-11 Thread Santiago Vila
Could we please move the default to 755, not 2775, like every other normal directory in Debian? There is little point in keeping those directories world-writable if they stop being owned by group staff. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Bug#538392: group staff: moving forward

2009-08-11 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, August 11, 2009 22:53, Russ Allbery wrote: Thijs Kinkhorst th...@debian.org writes: The TC has decided on the following resolution for the group staff issue: | 2. Decide to change the default so that /usr/local is not writeable by | group staff anymore. This change should only be

Bug#538392: group staff: moving forward

2009-08-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Thijs Kinkhorst th...@debian.org writes: I'm not sure it's entirely equivalent, as the directory in the new situation would be owned by group 0 / root. This is clearly a special group just as user root is a special user; much more clearly than staff would be. Hm, it is? I don't know of

Bug#538392: group staff: moving forward

2009-08-11 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Tue, August 11, 2009 23:22, Russ Allbery wrote: Thijs Kinkhorst th...@debian.org writes: I'm not sure it's entirely equivalent, as the directory in the new situation would be owned by group 0 / root. This is clearly a special group just as user root is a special user; much more clearly

Bug#538392: group staff: moving forward

2009-08-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, Santiago Vila wrote: Could we please move the default to 755, not 2775, like every other normal directory in Debian? There is little point in keeping those directories world-writable if they stop being owned by group staff. The group for the directories can still be staff,