Russ,
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Paul Hardy writes:
>
> > Osamu: I did not mean just accept one format--I meant accept both ".asc"
> > and ".sig" files for ".changes", ".dsc", and uscan files. I suppose all
> > three manuals you mentioned could be modified to docume
Paul Hardy writes:
> Osamu: I did not mean just accept one format--I meant accept both ".asc"
> and ".sig" files for ".changes", ".dsc", and uscan files. I suppose all
> three manuals you mentioned could be modified to document this.
> I had not brought this up until the latest lintian check on
Sean Whitton:
> [..]
>
> Here is an updated patch addressing these. I reworded it to use
> 'recommended' and changed the tone to better suit policy.
>
> Thank you Ximin, Russ and Johannes!
>
>> "precisification" -> "more precise version"
>
> Our definition is not actually a /version/ of the
>
Hello,
On Sat, Aug 12 2017, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I suspect we want to say build and host architecture for right now.
> (Maybe we can later aspire to making the build architecture not
> matter.)
On Sat, Aug 12 2017, Ximin Luo wrote:
> To echo dkg and others' comments, it would be nice if we cou
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:13 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 10:48:08AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> ...
> > On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 20:26:41 -0700, Paul Hardy wrote:
> > > Also, where signature files are desired, I think it would be
> beneficial to
> > > also accept binary
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 08:35:47PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Daniel Kahn Gillmor writes:
> > I don't like the idea of hard-coding a fixed build path requirement into
> > debian policy.
I don't *like* it neither but I think it's the sensible thing to do now.
> > We're over 80% with variable b
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Sean Whitton writes:
> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 02:43:36PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> diff --git a/policy.xml b/policy.xml
>> index 7ba5fc0..daf4c3c 100644
>> --- a/policy.xml
>> +++ b/policy.xml
>> @@ -595,7 +595,9 @@
>>Build-Depends,
>>
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Bill Allombert writes:
> This require policy to define the build environment and build
> instruction much more precisely than it does now, which does not seems
> to be practical. Unless maybe if a reference implementation is provided.
I don't see anything in this proposal that would require a mo
Johannes Schauer writes:
> Policy §4.9 defines "build architecture" in the context of
> dpkg-architecture already and I think what you mean here is either "host
> architecture" or at least "build and host architecture" or you need to
> mention that you are only talking about native builds where b
Hi,
Quoting Sean Whitton (2017-08-13 03:23:14)
> +Reproducibility
> +---
> +
> +Packages should build reproducibly, which for the purposes of this
> +document [#]_ means that given
> +
> +- a version of a source package unpacked at a given path;
> +- a set of versions of installed buil
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 01:18:23PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > +Packages are encouraged to produce bit-for-bit identical binary packages
> > even
> > +if most environment variables and build paths are varied. This is
> > technically
> > +more difficult at the time of writing, but it is intende
Ximin Luo writes:
> To echo dkg and others' comments, it would be nice if we could add here:
> +Packages are encouraged to produce bit-for-bit identical binary packages even
> +if most environment variables and build paths are varied. This is technically
> +more difficult at the time of writing,
Sean Whitton:
> diff --git a/policy/ch-source.rst b/policy/ch-source.rst
> index 127b125..cc4b020 100644
> --- a/policy/ch-source.rst
> +++ b/policy/ch-source.rst
> @@ -661,6 +661,22 @@ particularly complex or unintuitive source layout or
> build system (for
> example, a package that builds the s
Sean Whitton writes:
> diff --git a/policy/ch-source.rst b/policy/ch-source.rst
> index 127b125..cc4b020 100644
> --- a/policy/ch-source.rst
> +++ b/policy/ch-source.rst
> @@ -661,6 +661,22 @@ particularly complex or unintuitive source layout or
> build system (for
> example, a package that bui
Hi,
2017-08-12 14:23 GMT-04:00 Sean Whitton :
> control: tag -1 +patch
>
> This patch incorporates the feedback given on the proposal I sent
> yesterday, both in this bug and in person from Russ and Holger (thank
> you to all).
>
seconded, thanks for working on this.
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Ondřej No
On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 11:23:14AM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
> I am seeking formal seconds for this patch, from any DD.
>
> In particular:
>
> - for now, we only require reproducibility when the set of environment
> variable values set is exactly the same
>
> This is because
>
> - the re
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This patch incorporates the feedback given on the proposal I sent
yesterday, both in this bug and in person from Russ and Holger (thank
you to all).
I am seeking formal seconds for this patch, from any DD.
In particular:
- for now, we only require reproducibility when the
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On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 08:06:46PM -0400, Chris Lamb wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> > How do you define "moderated" ?
>
> I can't really, sorry. I guess getting a "Your message awaits moderator
> approval" quasi-bounce… but that's not exactly right.
If the list is moderated correctly, the message will g
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 04:08:47PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote:
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>
> Hello,
>
> Proposal:
>
> This is what Holger and I think we should add to Policy, after
> readability tweaks:
>
> Packages sh
Hi,
Quoting Russ Allbery (2017-08-12 09:57:44)
> I think we need to add all environment variables starting with DEB_* to
> the prerequisites. If you set DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip or
> DEB_BUILD_MAINT_OPTIONS=hardening=all, you'll definitely get a different
> package, for instance.
>
> I feel lik
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