Bug#268377: Bug#291939: Support for arch aliases

2005-01-24 Thread Guillem Jover
On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 03:50:17PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Guillem Jover [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On another thread, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Could we automatically define some @linux@ or @any-i386@ variables the same way shlidbs or other substitutions work? That's

Re: Limiting non-build-time relationships to a set of architectures?

2010-02-19 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! [ CCing #400322 for the additional data. ] On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 20:25:11 +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl (09/02/2010): On Tuesday 09 February 2010, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Frans Pop elen...@planet.nl (09/02/2010): This format is not (yet) allowed by

Bug#578852: prohibit usage of Breaks for file conflicts

2010-04-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2010-04-23 at 10:51:56 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Package: debian-policy Version: 3.8.4.0 Severity: normal to test the actual behaviour of dpkg for this situation I created the following 5 packages: [...] Test 1 == I start with version 1 installed and update to

Bug#562506: init scripts should not use set -e

2010-06-02 Thread Guillem Jover
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 10:42:35 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Here is proposed wording, which hopefully reflects the subsequent discussion. I'm looking for seconds. diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index d16df70..1871d4c 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -6011,7 +6011,7 @@

Re: [PATCH] bug530687-srivasta: Support for architecture wildcards

2010-06-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 13:28:30 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes: + p + Specifying a list of architecture wildcards indicates that +the source will build an architecture-dependent package on +the union of the

Re: [PATCH] bug530687-srivasta: Support for architecture wildcards

2010-06-02 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 00:06:39 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-02 at 13:28:30 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Manoj Srivastava sriva...@debian.org writes: + p + Specifying a list of architecture wildcards indicates that +the source will build

Bug#224509: Don't require a TTY during maintainer script execution

2010-06-03 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 12:51:33 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Julien Cristau jcris...@debian.org writes: what does this change mean for essential packages that want to prompt the user when debconf isn't available? E.g. libc6.postinst tries to use debconf, and if that's not available and

Bug#224509: Don't require a TTY during maintainer script execution

2010-06-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 09:34:32 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I'm looking for seconds or further discussion if people don't believe that this is the right direction to go. diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index af00c0e..3f6b82d 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -3557,15

Bug#530687: [PATCH] bug530687-srivasta: Support for architecture wildcards

2010-06-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 09:56:30 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Okay, here's another try at this patch that removes some extraneous information that it sounds like we shouldn't get into, from this message and your other message, and tries to simplify the wording to address the issue raised in

Bug#530687: [PATCH] bug530687-srivasta: Support for architecture wildcards

2010-06-03 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 13:09:38 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org writes: On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 09:56:30 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: p In the main filedebian/control/file file in the source - package, this field may contain the special value

Bug#555977: debian-policy: Constraints on binary package control files

2010-07-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! Here's a review from a non-native speaker. On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 17:40:49 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index bad28af..3d5334d 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -804,6 +804,35 @@ in the tt.deb/tt file format. /p + p

Bug#402721: Please make clear, that conflicts should only be used when really necessary

2010-07-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 13:28:26 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Tobias Frost t...@frost.de writes: Looking at #262257, as an exampple, there are packages which declares conflicts for whatever reason. However, the reason is NOT, that thec packages could not co-existent on the same system (For

Bug#400322: Limiting non-build-time relationships to a set of architectures?

2010-07-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 22:26:27 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: If this already works, we should document it, since it can be quite useful. Here's an attempt at wording. Please check this and make sure that I'm correctly documenting what works. Do architecture restrictions work with

Bug#445203: debian-policy: 10.8. Log files: /etc/logrotate.d/package preferred

2010-07-08 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 08:59:24 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I propose the following patch for this bug instead in order to get it clear of this discussion. We can always go back and sort out whether it should use invoke-rc.d after we work through the other bug. Does this look okay?

Bug#184064: debian-policy: [PROPOSAL] Every window manager should provide an alternative to the x-window-manager.1 manpage

2010-07-18 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2010-07-17 at 18:36:50 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Here, many years later, is a proposed patch implementing that, omitting www-browser because it's not (yet) documented by Policy and adding x-terminal-emulator. Objections or seconds? diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml

Bug#589609: debian-policy: No substvars for dpkg-source and dpkg-genchanges.

2010-07-19 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 17:03:21 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: t a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 0b3c1a1..597100e 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -2190,10 +2190,9 @@ endif headingVariable substitutions: filedebian/substvars/file/heading p - When

Bug#218897: Explicitily disallow adding local diversion by package

2010-08-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 10:30:50 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 9fe7158..c7f2a4e 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -1214,9 +1214,11 @@ /p p - You should not use prgndpkg-divert/prgn on a file - belonging to

Bug#594542: debian-policy: add descriptions for main, contrib, and non-free archive areas

2010-08-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 18:16:21 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes: Actually, with the release of GNU/kFreeBSD variants for Squeeze, this paragraph is not totally accurate. That's a very good point. Yeah, I was about to comment on just that but then I

Bug#594656: debian-policy: Refer generically to the Debian distribution

2010-08-28 Thread Guillem Jover
. regards, guillem From 4d13fa337774fc540b87e4e607bdb04e7ee94a83 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 08:11:28 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] Refer generically to Debian instead of the GNU/Linux instance --- debian-menu-policy.desc |2 +- debian-mime

Bug#594658: debian-policy: Add FHS exception for GNU/Hurd directories

2010-08-28 Thread Guillem Jover
, and the footnote might need to be clarified probably. regards, guillem From 199ea60ca6e9a879f043fba7a588e71ad241468d Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:00:17 +0200 Subject: [PATCH] Add FHS exception for GNU/Hurd top-level directories --- policy.sgml

Re: Source architecture field?

2010-11-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 16:25:35 +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: In #509702, Philipp Kern says that a particular package's list of architectures should be specified in the source stanza of the control file, not in the binary packages' descriptions, to avoid any attempt to build the package on

Re: Source architecture field?

2010-11-25 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 19:51:17 +0100, Philipp Kern wrote: On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 07:45:16PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: On 11/25/2010 07:18 PM, Guillem Jover wrote: On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 16:25:35 +0200, Peter Pentchev wrote: In #509702, Philipp Kern says that a particular package's list

Bug#587377: debian-policy: Decide on arbitrary file/path names limit

2011-01-25 Thread Guillem Jover
reassign 587377 debian-policy retitle 587377 debian-policy: Decide on arbitrary file/path names limit severity 587377 wishlist thanks [ Resending to the list, forgot the first time, setting Reply-To to the bug report. ] Hi! On Sun, 2010-06-27 at 21:03:28 -0400, Aaron M. Ucko wrote: Package:

Re: [PATCH] Specify policy for use of revision IDs in version numbers

2011-05-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 17:27:39 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 09:00:14PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: So the reason for imposing a length restriction on version numbers in particular is due to the UI display of aptitude? I'm a bit dubious that this is a good

Re: [PATCH] Specify policy for use of revision IDs in version numbers

2011-05-11 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 17:00:17 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 12:46:15PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: Well, this has already been solved long time ago, although the restrictions were different then, the dselect methods have supported the MSDOS-Filename field

Bug#626779: debian-policy: Improve Architecture field in source package (updated to match dpkg-source)

2011-05-15 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 10:32:17 +0200, Raphaël Hertzog wrote: diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 9b4a93e..cbc8049 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -2975,10 +2975,14 @@ Package: libc6 p In the source package control file file.dsc/file, this -

Bug#627490: debian-policy: Description field specification is ambiguous

2011-05-21 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.9.2.0 Severity: normal User: debian-pol...@packages.debian.org Usertag: issue Hi! The current specification for the Description field in §5.6.13 seems to be ambiguous regarding what can or cannot follow the initial characters. It specifies that a line can start

Bug#627490: debian-policy: Description field specification is ambiguous

2011-05-21 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 16:10:59 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sat, May 21, 2011 at 08:47:22AM +0200, Guillem Jover a écrit : The current specification for the Description field in §5.6.13 seems to be ambiguous regarding what can or cannot follow the initial characters. It specifies

Bug#627490: debian-policy: Description field specification is ambiguous

2011-05-21 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 10:53:13 +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: dpkg errors out on empty lines inside a field value, but not blank lines (those consisting only of spaces/tabs). Sorry, this was not clear. dpkg errors out when it expects only one stanza, otherwise an empty line (not a blank one

Bug#604397: debian-policy: require build-arch and build-indep targets

2011-06-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 03:59:43 -0600, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Did you read the rest of the message? But okay, I am willing to accept that this is an approach we do not want to use. Which still leaves us with a number of options. To help some existing packages today (and break others):

Bug#604397: debian-policy: require build-arch and build-indep targets

2011-06-06 Thread Guillem Jover
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 12:29:20 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org, 2011-06-06, 09:55: I'd even go further and combine that with dpkg-buildpackage stopping to set compilation flags on the environment, so we only have to deal once with possible mass FTBFS on the archive

Bug#604397: debian-policy: require build-arch and build-indep targets

2011-06-06 Thread Guillem Jover
On Mon, 2011-06-06 at 13:37:22 +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 09:55:25AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: To help no existing packages today but make it easy for packages to opt in (and not break the others): 1. Introduce a Build-Options facility for packages

Bug#542288: Version numbering: native packages, NMU's, and binary only uploads

2012-01-08 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2012-01-08 at 10:07:15 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Following the further discussion of sorting issues and Jonathan's point about ambiguity about using +nmu in the upstream_version of a native package, I updated this some more (mostly by adding back in the language that Charles had

Bug#656637: debian-policy: §5.1 is slightly ambiguous on space

2012-01-20 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 17:45:32 +0100, Niels Thykier wrote: Package: debian-policy Severity: minor I would like to request a clarification on whether spaces are allowed in fields. My first thought was that it is not allowed. However units-filter/3.5-2 has a a space in the fields of its

Bug#661933: debian-policy: mandate UTF-8 encoding for copyright files

2012-03-02 Thread Guillem Jover
On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 19:29:27 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Ben Finney ben+deb...@benfinney.id.au writes: Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org writes: I propose that all copyright files must use UTF-8 encoding. Lintian has been emitting a warning for copyright files using obsolete national

Bug#190753: Proposing to appeal to the tech. comittee about language extensions in scripts.

2012-04-28 Thread Guillem Jover
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 18:01:52 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: As proposed in 2010 (http://bugs.debian.org/190753#98), I would like to ask the Technical Comittee to reconsider our Policy, and restrict it to cases where the name of a program is an interface (http://bugs.debian.org/190753#128).

Bug#291148: Proposal

2012-05-12 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 23:10:50 +0300, Peter Eisentraut wrote: So since no one had anything to add, here is a concrete proposal. All of this reflects current practice, I believe. Since the addition of status_of_proc to /lib/lsb/init-functions, this has been quite standardized in practice, and

Bug#681289: debian-policy: Changelog and copyright should be package metadata

2012-07-14 Thread Guillem Jover
On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 23:29:48 +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: * Raphael Hertzog [2012-07-13 09:00 +0200]: Guillem introduced the --control-list and --control-show interfaces … If … , we should IMO create a new package that will hook into dpkg --post-invoke and … … should create dpkg

Re: Bug#273093: dpkg: Unpredictable behavior when two packages want to divert the same file

2012-07-18 Thread Guillem Jover
reassign 273093 debian-policy retitle 273093 policy: Document interactions of multiple clashing package diversions severity 273093 wishlist thanks Hi! On Thu, 2004-09-23 at 22:25:58 +0200, Frank Küster wrote: Package: dpkg Version: 1.10.23 Severity: normal Feel free to reassign this to

Bug#681833: developers-reference: please document a package salvaging process

2012-09-07 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 18:35:33 -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: package: developers-reference severity: normal version: 3.4.8 tag: patch I've prepared an initial draft of a developers reference patch that would document a package salvaging process. Please see below. Bart has already

Bug#71621: Policy on update-alternatives still needed

2012-09-23 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2012-09-23 at 10:03:29 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: In prerm: if [ $1 = remove ] || [ $1 = deconfigure ] ; then update-alternatives --remove tf /usr/bin/tf5 fi is correct I think. The possible invocations of prerm are: prerm remove old-prerm upgrade new-version

Bug#679326: debian-policy: DMUA should covered more explicitly

2012-11-26 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2012-09-23 at 09:59:37 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: This patch creates a new subsection for obsoleted fields. Alternatively we can concentrate the information where it is, in 5.6.25. Deleting it would cause some other sub-subsections to be renumbered, so I think that it is better to

Bug#697433: Is the Package-List field necessary for uploads ?

2013-01-09 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2013-01-10 at 07:32:54 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 02:42:30PM +0100, Ansgar Burchardt a écrit : I don't think the description for the Package-List field should document the valid package types. There's already a Package-Type field for that (defaults to

Bug#697433: Is the Package-List field necessary for uploads ?

2013-01-11 Thread Guillem Jover
On Fri, 2013-01-11 at 21:05:21 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 03:58:31AM +0100, Guillem Jover a écrit : It will only list binary packages, not all the information for the source package is currently available from other fields in the .dsc file, but it could be exported

Bug#697433: Is the Package-List field necessary for uploads ?

2013-01-12 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2013-01-12 at 15:29:13 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: here is a new version trying to addres Simon's and Guillem's comments. @@ -2671,6 +2671,7 @@ Package: libc6 itemqref id=f-DescriptionttDescription/tt/qref (mandatory)/item itemqref

Bug#700536: debian-policy: Update dak reference from old katie name

2013-02-13 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.9.4.0 Severity: minor Hi! Prompted by 700532 I noticed a reference to the old katie name. Here's a patch updating it to dak. Thanks, Guillem From d8badfe86c67797701bb7d8281e7cb6206344e8e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org Date: Thu

Bug#700574: debian-policy: Remove outdated mention of dselect documentation

2013-02-14 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.9.4.0 Severity: minor Tags: patch Hi! Here's a patch removing a mention of dselect access methods documentation that's not present in the manual anymore. Thanks, Guillem From 8c23c71cd1f7f68e06e37af5491cab5dba4ec970 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Guillem Jover

Bug#598645: debian-policy: Remove minimal trailing appendix sections

2013-02-14 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! Here's two patches to start cleaning up the appendix sections. I can file independent bug reports for each change instead if you want. Thanks, Guillem From c7572d7660140a3f61c922cde11be823dfa58a32 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:26:06

Bug#598645: debian-policy: Switch appendix section for dpkg-buildpackage into a stub

2013-02-14 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! Here's a patch switching the dpkg-buildpackage appendix section into a stub, as it's only documenting (some oudated) stuff that's already present in the man page. Thanks, Guillem From c8475a14c99b3d88f8f9bd8b18d3fd68892f237c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org

Bug#598645: debian-policy: Switch appendix section for dpkg-buildpackage into a stub

2013-02-14 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! Here's a patch delegating the deb(5) format described in the appendix to the man page, as the section is not very complete anyway. Thanks, Guillem From dca71a36ea82b8679d552bfd6179d6a925029ef0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:29:05

Bug#598645: debian-policy: Delegate deb(5) format description to the man page (was: Switch appendix ...)

2013-02-14 Thread Guillem Jover
Sorry, missed fixing up the subject. On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 19:34:02 +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: Here's a patch delegating the deb(5) format described in the appendix to the man page, as the section is not very complete anyway. Thanks, Guillem -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ

Bug#598645: debian-policy: Delegate deb(5) format description to the man page (was: Switch appendix ...)

2013-02-24 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 12:53:51 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Thanks Guillem for your patches. After the quick exchange with Russ this week on this list, Yeah, being able work on the appendices piecemeal will make it easier, otherwise it gets difficult to see what's done and what's pending, as

Bug#582109: debian-policy: document triggers where appropriate

2013-03-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2013-03-02 at 18:45:30 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 04:41:55PM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : I am having a look at how to document triggers. In order to simplify the explanation and re-use more easily material from the file above, I think that we

Bug#701081: debian-policy: mandate an encoding for filenames in binary packages

2013-03-02 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2013-02-23 at 13:31:32 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 03:48:15PM +0100, Bill Allombert a écrit : - Is there anybody following the preparation of the FHS 3.0 or the LSB, who could tell us if a broader guideline on name encoding for files distributed in core

Bug#701081: debian-policy: mandate an encoding for filenames in binary packages

2013-03-02 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2013-02-24 at 11:54:01 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: This could be done by an addition like the following, after section 10.9 (Permissions and owners). The wording is still a bit clumsy also, I am not sure if installed includes files created by maintainer scripts (which would be

Bug#703022: debian-policy: Appendix G: Diversion example faulty (doesn't work for conffiles)

2013-03-14 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 10:34:58 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Torsten Jerzembeck t...@nightingale.ms.sub.org writes: The example provided in Appendix G of the DPM regarding the removal of diversions doesn't work if the file diverted is a conffile. This is due to the fact that conffiles are not

Bug#705403: Correcting non-standard dpkg states in the Policy.

2013-04-20 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sun, 2013-04-14 at 20:58:04 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Package: debian-policy Severity: minor would you mind if I make the follwing replacements as non-normative changes in the Policy ? - configuration files only state - Config-Files state - not installed state -

Bug#706778: debian-policy: Please explicitly forbid - at the start of Deb822 field names

2013-05-05 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2013-05-04 at 20:27:50 +0200, Niels Thykier wrote: Package: debian-policy Severity: minor Policy §5.1 states that: [...] The field name is composed of US-ASCII characters excluding control characters, space, and colon (i.e., characters in the ranges 33-57 and 59-126, inclusive).

Re: obsolete conffiles: s/may/should/

2013-05-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 15:18:04 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: In policy section 10.7.3 Behavior, there is this sentence: Obsolete configuration files without local changes may be removed by the package during upgrade. I would like to suggest that may be replaced with should.

Bug#708566: library -dev naming policy encourages unnecessary transitions (was: Re: Upcoming libgd2-{xpm,noxpm}-dev - libgd2-dev transition)

2013-05-16 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! [ Just saw while drafting this, that you filed the bug on policy, so sending a copy there too, let's continue the discussion there then. ] On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 09:51:23 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Andreas Beckmann a...@debian.org writes: On 2013-05-15 09:58, Ondřej Surý wrote: The '2'

Bug#720507: .dsc field for dgit

2013-08-23 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 18:48:02 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Package: debian-policy Version: 3.9.4.0 I have been working on a new tool for integration between the Debian archive and git. The best available description is probably its manpage:

Bug#720507: .dsc field for dgit [and 1 more messages]

2013-09-10 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2013-08-31 at 18:17:29 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: In any case, we need one more Developer to support this patch before applying to the Policy. Once we have this extra assessment for consensus, I will apply it unless there are clear objections. Guillem, please raise your hand

Bug#706778: debian-policy: Please explicitly forbid - at the start of Deb822 field names

2013-09-16 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2013-09-16 at 11:32:14 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org writes: I concur completely, and I'm considering rejecting such fields from dpkg 1.17.x, for the reason above. I've got a local commit now rejecting these, targetted for 1.17.2. how about

Bug#727610: debian-policy: clearer discussion of why build-indep implies building the whole package

2013-10-26 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2013-10-24 at 15:47:56 +0100, Ximin Luo wrote: Package: debian-policy Severity: normal I was recently told to split part of my Build-Depends field into a separate Build-Depends-Indep field. Not one to follow orders without question, I went and did some research, and found this

Re: Updating the Policy Editors delegation

2014-01-04 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2014-01-04 at 22:37:59 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Fri, Jan 03, 2014 at 05:58:19PM +, Ian Jackson a écrit : I think that the current policy maintenance approach is too bureaucratic and relies too little on the technical judgement of the policy editors. I would like to see

Bug#628515: recommending verbose build logs

2014-02-10 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2014-02-09 at 15:35:02 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: I raise similar concerns in #680686. There is also discussion there of making dpkg-buildpackage produce a smart display for interactive builds (fleeting display of verbose messages with warnings separated out and highlighted) while

Bug#732445: debian-policy should encourage verification of upstream cryptographic signaturse

2014-03-24 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2014-03-24 at 16:51:53 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I use: gpg --export --armor --export-options export-minimal key \ debian/upstream/signing-key.asc to generate this file for my packages. I've been using pgp-clean (signing-party), which seems to generate even

Re: Bug#748936: apt doesnt understand architecture wildcards

2014-06-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 22:04:48 +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: * Johannes Schauer j.scha...@email.de [140522 13:30]: Debian policy 11.1.1 [1] and the associated footnote [2] allow architecture wildcards of the form os-any and any-cpu. Apt seems to equal cpu with debian architecture

Bug#750988: developers-reference: dpkg-buildpackage does not require an explicit -rfakeroot argument

2014-06-09 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: developers-reference Version: 3.4.12 Severity: wishlist Hi! For a long time dpkg-buildpackage does not need an explicit «-rfakeroot» argument if fakeroot is installed, it will try to use it automatically. So it would be nice to update the fakeroot section to that effect. Thanks,

Bug#750990: developers-reference: debsums package mostly unnecessary with stock dpkg

2014-06-09 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: developers-reference Version: 3.4.12 Severity: wishlist Hi! Since dpkg 1.17.2, there's a new --verify option that can be used to verify the integrity of packages, for now only the md5sums are being checked, but more checks will be added in the future. Also since dpkg 1.16.3 md5sum files

Bug#750991: developers-reference: Possible mention of nmudiff in NMU section

2014-06-09 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: developers-reference Version: 3.4.12 Severity: wishlist Hi! The NMU section could mention the nmudiff tool. Thanks, Guillem -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Bug#750993: developers-reference: Please mention more lint-style tools

2014-06-09 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: developers-reference Version: 3.4.12 Severity: wishlist Hi! There are several very useful lint-style tools that would be nice to mention so that people are aware of them. Here's a non-exhaustive list that would be nice to add: duck adequate piuparts i18nspector Thanks, Guillem

Bug#750994: developers-reference: Please mention shasums being in .dsc too

2014-06-09 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: developers-reference Version: 3.4.12 Severity: wishlist Hi! The Packages section states the the .dsc contains checksums but only lists md5sums, it would be nice to say that shasums are also included. Thanks, Guillem -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-policy-requ...@lists.debian.org

Bug#750993: developers-reference: Please mention more lint-style tools

2014-06-09 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 18:34:51 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:26:07PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: There are several very useful lint-style tools that would be nice to mention so that people are aware of them. Here's a non-exhaustive list that would be nice to add

Bug#759492: File conflicts between /bin and /usr/bin

2014-08-27 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2014-08-27 at 09:59:10 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Package: debian-policy Severity: wishlist I could have sworn we already had a bug open about this, but I couldn't find it. If someone else does find it, please merge. I'm not sure if you were thinking about #562863? Although

Bug#759491: Defining pseudo-essential

2014-08-27 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Wed, 2014-08-27 at 09:22:42 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org writes: That's related to being (pseudo-)essential and not to priority. Package of Priority: required do not have to be pseudo-essential, but packages of lower priority can be pseudo-essential:

Bug#761219: debian-policy: document versioned Provides

2014-09-11 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2014-09-11 at 21:57:57 +0300, Niko Tyni wrote: dpkg 1.17.11 and apt 1.0.7 recently implemented support for versioned provides. From the dpkg changelog: * Add versioned Provides support: - Add a new dpkg --assert-versioned-provides command. - Packages can provide a

Bug#759491: Defining pseudo-essential

2014-09-12 Thread Guillem Jover
[ Only found time to finish up the reply I started weeks ago now, so I might lost my train of thought from then. :/ ] Hi! On Wed, 2014-08-27 at 18:02:29 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org writes: On Wed, 2014-08-27 at 09:22:42 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote

Bug#148194: debian-policy: Clarification needed regarding multi-line fields

2006-03-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.6.2 Hi, Definitions === I'll define «physical line» as the stream of bytes ending with an EOL character (usually '\n', but it could be DOS style as well). «multi line» as one or more physical lines with the following ones starting with at least a space.

Bug#359817: debian-policy: dpkg-gencontrol now uses -isp by default

2006-03-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.6.2.2 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch Hi, As of dpkg version 1.13.16, dpkg-gencontrol now uses -isp by default, thus including the Section and Priority fields in the generated binary debian control files. Attached a patch. regards, guillem diff -Naur

Bug#148194: Policy amendment to permit multi-line fields in debian/control

2006-04-18 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 17:04:17 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: I have proposed a modification for Policy that will permit wrapping in the following fields in debian/control: Depends Recommends Suggests Enhances Pre-Depends Conflicts Provides Replaces Build-Depends Build-Depends-Indep

Bug#374029: Fixing inconsisten and unusefull Build-Depends/Conflicts definition

2006-06-18 Thread Guillem Jover
On Fri, 2006-06-16 at 23:10:36 +0200, Goswin Brederlow wrote: Package: debian-policy Severity: normal [Side note: Buildds/dpkg-buildpackage has no robust way of telling if the optional build-arch field exists and must call build. This is wastefull for both build dependencies and build time.]

Re: binNMU safe and ${binary:Version} or ${source:Version}

2006-10-13 Thread Guillem Jover
[ Found this today on the web archives. ] Hi, On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:11:23 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: The documentation for this probably belongs in debian-policy; current versions of policy seem to mention Source-Version, though, not the new substvars, and I'm not sure if anyone has

Re: binNMU safe and ${binary:Version} or ${source:Version}

2006-10-16 Thread Guillem Jover
On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 10:01:08 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 04:13:07AM +0300, Guillem Jover wrote: On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:11:23 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: The documentation for this probably belongs in debian-policy; current versions of policy seem to mention

Re: Please review Policy change for ~ in versions

2006-11-06 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi Russ, On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 18:50:26 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Could you please review the following patch to Debian Policy to document the use of ~ in version numbers and confirm that this matches dpkg's behavior? I'd like to get this into Policy since it's already in widespread use in

Bug#209008: debian-policy: [PROPOSAL] common interface for parallel building in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2007-03-20 Thread Guillem Jover
On Wed, 2007-03-07 at 18:08:52 +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Bug #209008 proposed to have a common interface to tell packages to do parallel building (make -j). For some reason, the discussion that happened back in 2003 isn't logged on the BTS, but can be read in [2]. Everyone seemed to agree

Bug#416450: [PROPOSAL] New option in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to avoid running test-suites

2007-03-27 Thread Guillem Jover
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.7.2.2 Severity: wishlist I'd like to propose to formalize a new option («nocheck») in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to make the build skip running any test-suites. This helps for example when doing iterations of patching, building and testing, until you want to do the final

Bug#241333: policy mentions that changelogs should be utf-8; this is a bug

2007-05-26 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Thu, 2004-04-01 at 04:09:51 -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 16:02:52 -0600 (CST), Adam Heath said: This is not supported by any tool in debian. Control files are ascii, 7-bit, period. And, when generating the .changes for an upload, the changelog is included,

Re: Source version in .changes

2007-07-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Wed, 2007-07-04 at 00:49:13 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Magnus Holmgren [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Section 5.6.1 of the DPM states: In a main source control information, a .changes or a .dsc file this may contain only the name of the source package. In the control file of a

Bug#442134: Inconsistency/typo: half-configured vs. failed-config

2007-09-14 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2007-09-13 at 14:59:11 +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: Package: debian-policy The description of Pre-Depends in section 7.2 says that half-configured packages can satisfy pre-dependencies. However, chapter 6 does not mention that package state. Instead, it talks about Failed-Config

Re: Debian policy manual CVS address?

2007-11-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Thu, 2007-11-29 at 19:59:20 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: [...] Is there a specification somewhere for the Vcs-* fields for arch repositories? I remember a discussion, but I don't remember the conclusions. If someone could point me at the specification or even just send me the correct

Bug#379150: Documentation for Breaks in dpkg

2008-01-03 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Tue, 2008-01-01 at 13:46:58 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Ian Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Package: debian-policy Version: 3.7.2.1 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch As I report in #379140 (against dpkg), I have implemented Breaks in dpkg. The attached patch is the

Bug#430649: New proposed wording for DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2008-01-07 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 19:23:58 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Okay, here's a revised proposal to address both Bug#209008 (parallel) and Bug#430649 (DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS parsing). This proposal does the following: --- orig/policy.sgml +++ mod/policy.sgml + sect id=debianrules-options +

Bug#452105: debian-policy: Homepage field in debian/control undocumented

2008-01-07 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Mon, 2008-01-07 at 12:37:14 -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I try that, I get: dpkg-source: warning: unknown information field 'Homepage' in input data in package's section of control info file ... dpkg-genchanges: warning: unknown

Bug#440420: [PROPOSAL] Manual page encoding

2008-01-28 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 12:29:35 +, Colin Watson wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 02:37:48PM +, Colin Watson wrote: On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 10:28:12PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I propose that policy should standardise that we move to using

Bug#458910: debian-policy: Policy and dpkg disagree on debian revision tests.

2008-04-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 19:04:44 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Here is a proposed patch that also clarifies the comparison of version numbers a bit. Seconds? diff --git a/policy.sgml b/policy.sgml index 1c9a339..b7ac92e 100644 --- a/policy.sgml +++ b/policy.sgml @@ -2877,19 +2877,22 @@

Bug#426877: dpkg: Option --oknodo should be the default behaviour for start-stop-daemon (LSB specs)

2008-07-04 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Fri, 2008-07-04 at 01:47:39 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: I think being LSB compliant is good for Debian. The LSB init script specification *is a specification for the init scripts of LSB packages*. It has NOTHING to do with LSB compliance of LSB implementations. Debian is an LSB

Bug#163666: debian-policy: Unclear result with [arch] and |

2008-07-05 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi, On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 17:09:48 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Bug#163666 against debian-policy points out that arch-specific build dependencies are unclearly specified in Policy currently in the presence of alternatives. The current wording says: All fields that specify build-time

Bug#416450: [PROPOSAL] New option in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to avoid running test-suites

2008-07-05 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 14:01:26 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Guillem Jover [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to propose to formalize a new option («nocheck») in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS to make the build skip running any test-suites. This helps for example when doing iterations of patching

Bug#473019: debian-policy: clarification needed for local builtin exception for /bin/sh

2008-07-05 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 13:31:20 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: Clint Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I observe that a) POSIX specifies the behavior of 'export' and 'readonly' b) Implementation of 'local' is often very similar to 'export' and 'readonly' and in the absence of a

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