Bug#685039: developers-reference: please document what is needed to reintroduce a package

2012-08-16 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
;/removals.html;removals/ulink. Perhaps there should be a note making clear that only removal from unstable (and experimental) is what is meant here; removals from testing do not give cause to use this procedure. -- Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho, Jyväskylä, Finland http://antti-juhani.kaijanaho.fi/newblog

Bug#374029: Fixing inconsisten and unusefull Build-Depends/Conflicts definition

2006-06-17 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
Goswin Brederlow wrote: Two new fields are introduced: Build-Depends-Arch, Build-Conflicts-Arch You are aware, I hope, that the original proposal for the Build-* fields contained these fields, and they were dropped from the proposal after several people (buildd admins, if I recall

Re: build-depends-indep and arch: all source packages

2003-09-15 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
in Policy as long as Build-Depends. -- Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho, Debian developer http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ pgpBOO1lmOYET.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Software Licenced Under a Specific Version of GPL

2001-08-31 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
package. The policy group does not have objections to using that symlink if it is created? (Note that policy only refers to GPL and LGPL, not to GPL-2 or LGPL-2.) -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Re: Software Licenced Under a Specific Version of GPL

2001-08-30 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010830T084026-0400, Jonathan D. Proulx wrote: $ head -3 /usr/share/common-licenses/GPL GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE Version 2, June 1991 Yes, but that will probably not be true forever. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http

Re: Software Licenced Under a Specific Version of GPL

2001-08-30 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
the GPL-2 symlink now, and not in some far-off point in the future. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Bug#99933: Comments on Unicode

2001-07-06 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Re: Bug#94827: tktable; Build-Depends: debhelper

2001-05-06 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010502T202937-0400, Joey Hess wrote: Nah, I know how to munge things to produce its brand of ar files. :-) That does not address my point. (Anyway, I can only see a policy should supporting my view, so...) -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Re: Bug#94827: tktable; Build-Depends: debhelper

2001-05-02 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010501T114542-0500, Steve Greenland wrote: On 30-Apr-01, 14:33 (CDT), Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could probably do without the latter two, but IIRC the deb format is internal to dpkg and dpkg-deb is the only supported interface for creating debs. Not true

Re: Bug#94827: tktable; Build-Depends: debhelper

2001-04-30 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
is the only supported interface for creating debs. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Re: Bug#94827: tktable; Build-Depends: debhelper

2001-04-29 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
) -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Re: Must and should: new proposal (was: Re: Must and should again)

2001-04-18 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
as the lintian maintainer says lintian is ready for that. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Bug#72335: PROPOSAL] Optional build-arch and build-indep targets for debian/rules

2001-04-11 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
. It was intentional: we decided back then that doing that would render the fields useless. (It turned out they are useless anyway, but...:-) -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Bug#72335: PROPOSAL] Optional build-arch and build-indep targets for debian/rules

2001-04-11 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010329T112958+0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: OK, after Wichert's comments, here is a new version of the proposed amendment to policy. Seconded. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% pgpHcMbbIlovJ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Bug#93047: debian-policy: tells GNU Public Licence

2001-04-06 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010406T060953-1000, Brian Russo wrote: so it is the GGPL then? No, it's GNU GPL. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Re: where are valid sections defined?

2001-03-26 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
in auric and pandora. There may be corner cases. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Bug#90989: proposal] making all control fields multi-line

2001-03-25 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010325T001056+0100, Cyrille Chepelov wrote: Issues: allowing multiple lines in control fields breaks the use of grep ; however, grep-dctrl exists to alleviate this problem. It is my understanding that this breaks sbuild too. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http

Re: [control] continuation lines on relation fields ?

2001-03-18 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
believe that sbuild expects them to be on only one line. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Re: the math section should really be science

2001-03-13 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
there. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Bug#88249: PROPOSAL] policy process must explicitly include relevant package maintainers

2001-03-02 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Bug#88029: allow rules file to be non-makefile

2001-03-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
to the wording are provided. I support the general spirit of this proposal, though. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Bug#72335: ACCEPTED 31/10/2000] Optional build-arch and build-indep targets for debian/rules

2001-03-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010301T103402+, Julian Gilbey wrote: (and notwithstanding that we're going to require both or neither), it should say that debian/rules -q with one of the not-provided targets ... Sounds like a good idea. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Bug#88111: policy should not dictate implementation details

2001-03-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
VAR=VALUE ... syntax is used by dpkg-buildpackage. Once that is done, I think I'll be happy with the proposal. There is already another proposal about this. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Bug#88111: policy should not dictate implementation details

2001-03-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
. As such I propose that the statement that debian/rules has be to a makefile be removed. I object to this proposal, since it leaves debian/rules interface and behaviour unspecified in many instances. And there is already another proposal about this. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL

Bug#88111: policy should not dictate implementation details

2001-03-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
amendment. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Bug#88111: policy should not dictate implementation details

2001-03-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
just want to shoot down half-baked attempts to implement it :-) Indeed, see my patch in another mail. OK. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Bug#87828: PROPOSAL] Deprecate confusing Build-Depends arch syntax

2001-02-28 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% pgpahHFDgFvg4.pgp Description: PGP signature

Bug#87510: PROPOSAL] Make build dependencies a MUST

2001-02-25 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
those bits of policy. The transition to formalized MUST/SHOULD/MAY seems to have missed this bit. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% pgp6gpFWJ9d2s.pgp Description: PGP signature

Bug#87510: PROPOSAL] Make build dependencies a MUST

2001-02-25 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010225T141840+0200, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: On 20010225T014140+, Julian Gilbey wrote: Policy should now require packages to specify build time dependencies (i.e., packages which require ... MUST specify...) Build time dependencies have been in policy for 18 months already

Bug#87510: PROPOSAL] Make build dependencies a MUST

2001-02-25 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010225T131051+, Julian Gilbey wrote: Of course, with the question of empty dependency lists, there's a problem Indeed, and I'd like that to be explicitly addressed somewhere. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Re: [PROPOSAL] cron.* scripts should be quiet

2001-02-13 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010213T084841-0800, Joey Hess wrote: I dislike it. It's possible some package will exist that is _designed_ to fire off daily status reports by cron. We shouldn't prohibit such things without reason. An example is vrms. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http

Re: [PROPOSAL] Allowing crypto in the main archive

2001-01-11 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20010111T010726+0100, Rene Mayrhofer wrote: I am now about 2 - 3 days away from my first upload of freeswan. Should it go into net (instead of non-US) now ? :-) No. A proposal does not automatically mean a policy change. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http

Bug#72335: PROPOSED] Optional build-arch and build-indep targets for debian/rules

2000-11-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 20001031T195631+, Julian Gilbey wrote: So even though this languished for a month, I would like to reopen this proposal and second it. Okay. I hereby withdraw my earlier withdrawal of this proposal. It's open again. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi

Bug#72335: PROPOSED] Optional build-arch and build-indep targets for debian/rules

2000-10-30 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
retitle 72335 [WITHDRAWN] Optional build-arch and build-indep targets for debian/rules thanks Due to lack of interest, I am withdrawing this proposal.

Bug#72335: PROPOSED] Optional build-arch and build-indep targets for debian/rules

2000-09-28 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
? -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Bug#72335: [PROPOSED] Optional build-arch and build-indep targets for debian/rules

2000-09-24 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
appreciated. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% --- packaging.sgml.orig Sun Sep 24 16:42:17 2000 +++ packaging.sgml Sun Sep 24 17:16:29 2000 @@ -948,10 +948,11 @@ p The targets which are required to be present

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-09-02 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-09-02 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
allows bug reports against the package to be categorized separately from the policy management process that uses the BTS BTW, task-debian-devel depends on build-essential, so many Debian developers have the package installed anyway. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-09-01 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
the list on the website, It is in the website, starting yesterday. Why are people determined to make information so hard to find? Why are people determined to make pointless rants instead of filing useful bugs? -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Bug#70634: Typo in policy manual

2000-08-31 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.2.1.0 On 2830T184956-0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Wed, Aug 30, 2000 at 08:51:47PM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: The definition is the following: It is not be necessary to explicitly specify build-time relationships on a minimal

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-31 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
, the current note in policy manual is not sufficient? (It explicitly mentions the package build-essential.) -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% Hypertekstivisionääri Ted Nelson luennoi Jyväskylässä 29.-31.8. Lisätietoja saa

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-29 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% Hypertekstivisionääri Ted Nelson luennoi Jyväskylässä 29.-31.8. Lisätietoja saa minulta.

Re: Bug#70269: automatic build fails for potato

2000-08-28 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
that Packaging Manual section 3.2.1 requires that debian/rules is a makefile. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% Hypertekstivisionääri Ted Nelson luennoi Jyväskylässä 29.-31.8. Lisätietoja saa minulta.

Re: Q about Build-Depends vs Build-Depends-Indep

2000-06-21 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
modify the preceding paragraph? -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%%

Re: unusable examples in apckages ...

2000-05-30 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
) and build the examples with no more hassle than typing ./configure and/or make. -- You are saying that every (source) example/ directory requires a Makefile? Please don't CC me. I'm on this mailing list. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: unusable examples in apckages ...

2000-05-30 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Tue, May 30, 2000 at 02:01:55PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: not every user is aware of all that needs done to use a -dev package, that is what the examples are for, and they should be useable by the user. Not all such examples are for -dev packages. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL

Re: MUST and SHOULD in policy

2000-05-05 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
by SHOULD or RECOMMENDED are not suitable for the Debian distribution except in exceptional situations - or something like that (probably should weaken the condition a little). -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% I'm moving IRL on May 2

Bug#62947: PROPOSAL] s/debian-devel/debian-legal/

2000-04-24 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
for this proposal. Seconded. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% I'm moving IRL on May 2, 2000. New contact information on the home page

Re: Bug#53054: pygresql: change version number to reflect correct upstream version

1999-12-19 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
Yes, it's just in the packaging manual... yes, that is not policy... *yet* Actually, the DPaM is policy, altough it contains some material that ought not to be. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia

Bug#50832: AMENDMENT] Clarify meaning of Essential: yes

1999-12-08 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
-PX libc6 Essential: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:34:25]:pip$ -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Bug#51879: PROPOSAL: package may be maintained by a group

1999-12-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
as such. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Bug#51879: PROPOSAL: package may be maintained by a group

1999-12-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Fri, Dec 03, 1999 at 06:54:27PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Sure, I amend my proposal to use Antti-Juhani's wording. In that case I second the proposal. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia

Bug#51412: conflict in documents

1999-11-29 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
you are really saying is that this is another bug in the policy. No, I am saying that the arrangement is like this by design, not by accident. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John

Re: Bug#50832: AMENDMENT] Clarify meaning of Essential: yes

1999-11-24 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
the bug date reflects when the clock starts ticking on the bug. (/usr/doc/debian-policy/proposal.text.gz) -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Bug#49901: Correction to the build-dependency spec, Packaging manual section 8.1

1999-11-11 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
Package: debian-policy Version: 3.1.0.0 - Forwarded message from Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 18:13:45 +0200 From: Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-policy@lists.debian.org Subject: Correction to the build-dependency spec, Packaging

Bug#49901: Marking bug forwardeed

1999-11-11 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
forwarded 49901 debian-policy@lists.debian.org thanks This bug is not a proposal or amendment; it is a typo bug, and is now marked forwarded so that the policy editors may do with it whatever they choose. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia

Uploaded build-essential 1 (source i386) to master

1999-11-10 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
/syeGaPcBgLebywId3qDX1NDlmzToadFBVeR l7HyjfaQ1jZKxlDD5Xf/gF3sYXlsi7ImpZFICy0s+4koPK2Q/k8U1LqjC/p5sADX oCDGsOBRaCo= =S4R3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Re: compressing copyright

1999-11-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
in the Free Software community. This functionality is not yet included. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:22:06]:~$ -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

ITP: build-essential

1999-11-02 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
(and occasionally yet another for frozen). Why not call this task-build-essential, as I originally proposed? Because this is not a task package and should not presented for installation at system install time with the other metapackages. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http

Re: Source dependencies: are we ready?

1999-10-27 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 04:51:23PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: How do you define complete implementation? A dpkg-source that: a) supports build-dependencies b) supports multiple patches c) can setup a buildroot and start building everything

Re: Draft policy 3.1.0.0 now available

1999-10-27 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
it badly. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Re: Source dependencies: are we ready?

1999-10-27 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
? No. groff/man ? No. wish ? No. python ? No. jdk ? No. Remember, this list is supposed to be MINIMAL. BTW, what do you people think of the metapackage idea (see the new Policy draft thread)? -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia

Re: Source dependencies: are we ready?

1999-10-27 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 07:22:00AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: Should dpkg-dev possibly depend on anything we consider to be assumed for build dependencies? I'd create a separate metapackage for that, as I already proposed elsewhere. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http

Re: Source dependencies: are we ready?

1999-10-27 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
-get install the metapackage and whatever the Build-* fields specify to build a package. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Re: Source dependencies: are we ready?

1999-10-27 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
(untested): grep-available -PX task-build-essential -sDepends -n | tr ',' ' ' build-essential.txt This is trivially automatisable. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Re: Source dependencies: are we ready?

1999-10-27 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
at metapackage build time to both the Depends line and the /usr/share/doc file (which can, additionally, be installed in the web pages, if people prefer that). -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John

Re: Build dependencies: some thoughts

1999-10-27 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
were still hammering out the thing. I even called for people with complicated packages to give their input when I made the proposal. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Re: Source dependencies: are we ready?

1999-10-26 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
-Indep: -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Re: Source dependencies: are we ready?

1999-10-26 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
are you talking about? -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Re: Source dependencies: are we ready?

1999-10-26 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
the architecture-independent packages. I really wish you had spoken up back then when we could have made the wording more clear on this. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Re: Source dependencies: are we ready?

1999-10-26 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
to play with it. I would be interested in taking a look at it. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Bug#47438: copyright statement needs updating?

1999-10-24 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
by all people who have made significant changes to the manual. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Re: persistence of /usr/doc/$pkg (Was: debhelper: /usr/doc problems again)

1999-10-06 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Wed, Oct 06, 1999 at 03:01:05PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: I have a shell script that does the above algorithm, if people are interested. Yes. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia

Bug#45406: PROPOSAL] Config files must have manpages

1999-09-19 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
there are some such config files. I believe tetex has one, for example. Which is...? -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Bug#45406: PROPOSAL] Config files must have manpages

1999-09-18 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
? -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Bug#32263: Split /cgi-bin/ into system and local parts

1999-09-09 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 08:17:46AM -0400, Brian White wrote: on the bug report or in the debian-policy mailing list archives. Would somebody fill me in as to why it was rejected? Thank you! Because nobody cared about this proposal enough to second it, I'd wager. -- %%% Antti-Juhani

Re: [PROPOSAL] changing policy on compiling with -g .. a better way

1999-08-31 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
this to debian/rules: build-debug: BUILD_DEBUG=y build-debug: build You can use other make variables of course. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Re: [PROPOSAL] changing policy on compiling with -g .. a better way

1999-08-31 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 07:27:35AM -0400, Ben Collins wrote: I think sticking with an env will make it much easier for some one to just Of course. I just wanted to point out that it is possible to avoid code duplication even in a Makefile :-) -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [PROPOSAL] changing policy on compiling with -g .. a better way

1999-08-31 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
of the Make info file. I don't know how widely this is implemented by other makes. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% (John Cage)

Bug#41232: debian-policy: [ACCEPTED] Build-time dependencies on binary packages

1999-08-16 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
retitle 41232 [ACCEPTED] Build-time dependencies on binary packages forwarded 41232 debian-policy@lists.debian.org thanks I think it is safe to say this amendment is accepted. If you don't agree, speak up *now*. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia

Bug#41232: AMENDMENT 1999-07-23 FINAL DRAFT] Build-time dependencies on binary packages

1999-08-12 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Sat, Aug 07, 1999 at 02:18:41AM +0300, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote: Thus the discussion should end on Friday, the 13th of this month. This deadline is almost at hand. I've produced a final draft of the amendment for your review. Consider it frozen: i will not make any substantial changes

Re: Bug#41232: AMENDMENT 1999-07-23 FINAL DRAFT] Build-time dependencies on binary packages

1999-08-12 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
or HOST for specification of the machine we build for. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications ... (Bjarne Stroustrup, The Design and Evolution of C++, page 220)

Bug#41232: Bug #41232: [AMENDMENT 1999-07-23] Build-time dependencies on binary packages

1999-08-07 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
proposal sent out, if necessary.) I will be away for a few days starting from later today (Sat). -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications ... (Bjarne Stroustrup, The Design and Evolution

Bug#41232: Bug #41232: [AMENDMENT 1999-07-23] Build-time dependencies on binary packages

1999-08-07 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
will be easily converted to your ways if you just convince me of this point ;-) -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications ... (Bjarne Stroustrup, The Design and Evolution of C++, page 220)

Bug#41232: Bug #41232: [AMENDMENT 1999-07-23] Build-time dependencies on binary packages

1999-08-07 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
;-) -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications ... (Bjarne Stroustrup, The Design and Evolution of C++, page 220)

Bug#42554: A proposal for README.Debian

1999-08-06 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
the information duplicated in README.Debian. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications ... (Bjarne Stroustrup, The Design and Evolution of C++, page 220)

Bug#42554: A proposal for README.Debian

1999-08-06 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
lighter. It's about as light as my build-time dependency proposal. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications ... (Bjarne Stroustrup, The Design and Evolution of C++, page 220)

Re: /usr/share/doc vs. /usr/doc transition, debate reopened

1999-08-06 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
to move to /usr/share/doc now, ten policy should not mandate it now. (Of course this is all academic now as the technical committee has been invoked.) -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications

Bug#42554: A proposal for README.Debian

1999-08-06 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
? Everybody who knows Debian policy. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications ... (Bjarne Stroustrup, The Design and Evolution of C++, page 220)

Bug#42477: PROPOSED} delay the /usr/doc transition till after potato

1999-08-05 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
Slink), please use + /usr/doc whereever this document refers to + /usr/share/doc./p Seconded. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications ... (Bjarne Stroustrup

Re: Bug#42052: PROPOSAL] /var/mail and /var/spool/mail

1999-08-05 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
, 38393, 38754, 39204, 39275, 41611, and of course 41808. These bugs manifest themselves in certain special situations (either a self-dependency or a dependency cycle involving a virtual package). Most of the time dependency cycles are OK. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http

Re: /usr/share/doc vs. /usr/doc transition, debate reopened

1999-08-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 09:52:04PM -0300, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: The policy was immature. Shouldn't the decision be undone for now, then? -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications

Re: Let's just convert debhelper and do NMUs

1999-08-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Wed, Aug 04, 1999 at 12:29:29AM +0100, Julian Gilbey wrote: why don't we follow the Perl team's lead I most definitely agree with your plan. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications

Re: Let's just convert debhelper and do NMUs

1999-08-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
to depend on a base-files with a usr/share/doc/ directory. Why? -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications ... (Bjarne Stroustrup, The Design and Evolution of C++, page 220)

Re: FWD: /usr/doc vs. /usr/share/doc - the decision

1999-08-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
, and to undo the change wrt /usr/doc (not the whole FHS, though), until a solution is found. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications ... (Bjarne Stroustrup, The Design and Evolution of C++, page

Re: Let's just convert debhelper and do NMUs

1999-08-04 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Wed, Aug 04, 1999 at 02:05:31PM -0400, James Mastros wrote: Beutiful... so we're already implementing this. Current policy specifies /usr/share/doc . -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many

Re: /usr/share/doc vs. /usr/doc transition, debate reopened

1999-08-03 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications ... (Bjarne Stroustrup, The Design and Evolution of C++, page 220)

Re: /usr/share/doc vs. /usr/doc transition, debate reopened

1999-08-03 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
some minor inconvenience. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications ... (Bjarne Stroustrup, The Design and Evolution of C++, page 220)

Re: /usr/share/doc vs. /usr/doc transition, debate reopened

1999-08-03 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
should be changed. I'm not reverting my packages as long as policy dictates /usr/share/doc. The issue is not that critical. -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://www.iki.fi/gaia/ %%% ... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications ... (Bjarne Stroustrup

Re: /usr/share/doc vs. /usr/doc transition, debate reopened

1999-08-03 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On Tue, Aug 03, 1999 at 09:53:24AM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: Those people now wanting to undo the change had plenty of opportunity to cause the change to never happen in the first place. Are you saying I should be actively violating Policy? -- %%% Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho % [EMAIL PROTECTED

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