Re: Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-07-25 Thread Simon McVittie
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 at 04:25:58 +0200, Steve Langasek wrote: Index: pkgs.dbk === --- pkgs.dbk (revision 8898) +++ pkgs.dbk (working copy) @@ -1947,6 +1947,11 @@ itemizedlist

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-07-25 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 25/07/11 at 04:25 +0200, Steve Langasek wrote: Hello, This bug came up for discussion this evening at DebConf; I think it's overdue to be followed through on. Lucas seems to agree in the end with my own believe that there is a weak consensus in favor of the proposed policy, and it does

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-07-25 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 07/26/2011 12:21 AM, Bill Allombert wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 04:25:58AM +0200, Steve Langasek wrote: Hello, This bug came up for discussion this evening at DebConf; I think it's overdue to be followed through on. Lucas seems to agree in the end with my own believe that there is a

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-07-25 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 08:40:57PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : On 25/07/11 at 04:25 +0200, Steve Langasek wrote: Hello, This bug came up for discussion this evening at DebConf; I think it's overdue to be followed through on. Lucas seems to agree in the end with my own believe that

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-07-24 Thread Steve Langasek
Hello, This bug came up for discussion this evening at DebConf; I think it's overdue to be followed through on. Lucas seems to agree in the end with my own believe that there is a weak consensus in favor of the proposed policy, and it does effectively reflect current practice, so I think

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-26 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 07/05/11 at 00:08 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 11:31:02PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I just sent a mail to -devel@ to gather more feedback about the change. Let's see where that thread will be going then, thanks. So, apparently, I'm a bit alone on the

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-06 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 05:44:47PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I think that if you want to change the NMU procedures described in dev-ref, you should at least discuss the proposals in a similar forum than the one where the current recommendations were discussed, i.e debian-devel@ or

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-06 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 06/05/11 at 20:59 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 05:44:47PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I think that if you want to change the NMU procedures described in dev-ref, you should at least discuss the proposals in a similar forum than the one where the current

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-04 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 03/05/11 at 15:38 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I agree that the resulting wording of patch is suboptimal, and that recommending 0-day NMUs is not the way to go. We are rarely in need for action in less than a couple of days in Debian, so the current policy seems fine to me. I'd like to add

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-04 Thread Didier Raboud
Le mercredi, 4 mai 2011 11.40:18, Neil McGovern a écrit : On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 06:57:13AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: Le Tue, May 03, 2011 at 09:22:46PM +0100, Neil McGovern a écrit : Yes. If a maintainer is taking more that for a *RC* bug fix, then they *should* keep the buglog

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 08:58:57AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 03/05/11 at 15:38 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I agree that the resulting wording of patch is suboptimal, and that recommending 0-day NMUs is not the way to go. We are rarely in need for action in less than a couple of days

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-04 Thread Neil McGovern
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 03:14:05PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I think that if you want to change the NMU procedures described in dev-ref, you should at least discuss the proposals in a similar forum than the one where the current recommendations were discussed, i.e debian-devel@ or

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-04 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:40:18AM +0100, Neil McGovern a écrit : These are RC bugs. They're urgent issues. I find these instructions a too dry. I think that not every RC bug is equal in its nuisance to users or to the releasability of the next stable version. How about using urgency to

Re: Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-04 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! * Russ Allbery r...@debian.org [110504 19:33]: They're not helpful if the maintainer already has another fix ready to go, [..] In which case the maintainer would have marked the bug pending, and show activity, no? Best Regards, Alexander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl toli...@debian.org writes: * Russ Allbery r...@debian.org [110504 19:33]: They're not helpful if the maintainer already has another fix ready to go, [..] In which case the maintainer would have marked the bug pending, and show activity, no? Right. I mean, not

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-03 Thread Neil McGovern
Package: developers-reference Tags: patch Hi, As announced in the recent mail[0], please find attached a patch to dev-ref changing the NMU policy. Thanks, Neil [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/03/msg00016.html -- weasel dpkg: shut up dpkg No, I won't, and you can't make

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-03 Thread Charles Plessy
[DEP1 drivers CCed]. Le Tue, May 03, 2011 at 01:25:49PM +0100, Neil McGovern a écrit : Package: developers-reference Tags: patch [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/03/msg00016.html Index: pkgs.dbk === ---

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-03 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 03/05/11 at 22:27 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: [DEP1 drivers CCed]. Le Tue, May 03, 2011 at 01:25:49PM +0100, Neil McGovern a écrit : Package: developers-reference Tags: patch [0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2011/03/msg00016.html Index: pkgs.dbk

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-03 Thread Neil McGovern
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 03:11:07PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: * Neil McGovern ne...@debian.org, 2011-05-03, 13:25: +Upload fixing only release-critical bugs older than 7 days, without maintainer activity for 7 days: 0 days +/para +/listitem +listitem +para Oh dear, please don't. I

Bug#625449: Permanent BSP patch

2011-05-03 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, May 03, 2011 at 09:22:46PM +0100, Neil McGovern a écrit : Yes. If a maintainer is taking more that for a *RC* bug fix, then they *should* keep the buglog updated with status. Talking about the GCC 4.6 “*RC bugs*”, I got one other report telling that Debian's GCC 4.6.1 will introduce