Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[Rui Salvaterra]

On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 18:00, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
 wrote:
>
> On 5/20/20 6:58 PM, Rui Salvaterra wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 17:56, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
> >  wrote:
> >>
> >> I recommend using nmcli for network configuration on the command line, it's
> >> convenient and supports everything that network-manager supports.
> >
> > Nah… nmtui. ;)
>
> Ah, I haven't tried that yet, to be honest. I will give it a try next time
> I'm using network-manager on the command line.

I used to use nmcli too, but a couple of months ago a friend of mine
showed me the light. :)

Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

On 5/20/20 6:58 PM, Rui Salvaterra wrote:
> On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 17:56, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
>  wrote:
>>
>> I recommend using nmcli for network configuration on the command line, it's
>> convenient and supports everything that network-manager supports.
> 
> Nah… nmtui. ;)

Ah, I haven't tried that yet, to be honest. I will give it a try next time
I'm using network-manager on the command line.

Adrian

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Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[Rui Salvaterra]

On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 17:56, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
 wrote:
>
> I recommend using nmcli for network configuration on the command line, it's
> convenient and supports everything that network-manager supports.

Nah… nmtui. ;)

Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

On 5/20/20 6:17 PM, Rui Salvaterra wrote:
> On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 16:05, Mick Bert  wrote:
>>
>> But when I type the command iwlist, it give me:*|
> 
> iwlist is for very old WEXT-based drivers, IIRC. For modern
> mac80211-based drivers (like b43) using the nl80211 configuration
> interface, you need to use iw.

Indeed. The last release of wireless-tools happened more than 10 years ago,
like net-tools, it's deprecated and should no longer be used.

I recommend using nmcli for network configuration on the command line, it's
convenient and supports everything that network-manager supports.

Adrian

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Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[Jeroen Diederen]

https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43


Mick Bert schreef op 2020-05-20 17:05:

Il 01/02/19 16:59, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz ha scritto:

See: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/b43-fwcutter/1%3A019-3/


Hello

I downloaded and installed b43-fwcutter
 and
|*firmware-b43-installer_019-3with dpkg -i, and it looks to work fine.
But when I type the command iwlist, it give me:*|


|*lo Interface doesn't support scanning.
enP2p32s15f0  Interface doesn't support scanning.
wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
*|


|*dmesg|grep b43:
*|


|*[    7.081207] b43-pci-bridge 0001:10:12.0: enabling device (0004 -> 
0006)

[    7.241650] b43-pci-bridge 0001:10:12.0: Sonics Silicon Backplane
found on PCI device 0001:10:12.0
[   22.025427] b43-phy0: Broadcom 4306 WLAN found (core revision 5)
[   22.123551] b43-phy0: Found PHY: Analog 2, Type 2 (G), Revision 2
[   22.128124] b43-phy0: Found Radio: Manuf 0x17F, ID 0x2050, Revision
2, Version 0
[   22.264280] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: direct-loading firmware 
b43/ucode5.fw
[   22.412649] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: direct-loading firmware 
b43/pcm5.fw

[   22.541911] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: direct-loading firmware
b43/b0g0initvals5.fw
[   22.658153] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: direct-loading firmware
b43/b0g0bsinitvals5.fw
*|

|*While lspci:*|

|*0001:10:12.0 Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries
BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)

*|

|**|What can I check?

|**|

Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[Rui Salvaterra]

Hi, Mick,

On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 16:05, Mick Bert  wrote:
>
> But when I type the command iwlist, it give me:*|

iwlist is for very old WEXT-based drivers, IIRC. For modern
mac80211-based drivers (like b43) using the nl80211 configuration
interface, you need to use iw.

Cheers,
Rui

Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[Mick Bert]

Il 01/02/19 16:59, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz ha scritto:

See: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/b43-fwcutter/1%3A019-3/


Hello

I downloaded and installed b43-fwcutter 
 and 
|*firmware-b43-installer_019-3with dpkg -i, and it looks to work fine. 
But when I type the command iwlist, it give me:*| 



|*lo Interface doesn't support scanning.
enP2p32s15f0  Interface doesn't support scanning.
wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down
*| 



|*dmesg|grep b43:
*| 



|*[    7.081207] b43-pci-bridge 0001:10:12.0: enabling device (0004 -> 0006)
[    7.241650] b43-pci-bridge 0001:10:12.0: Sonics Silicon Backplane 
found on PCI device 0001:10:12.0

[   22.025427] b43-phy0: Broadcom 4306 WLAN found (core revision 5)
[   22.123551] b43-phy0: Found PHY: Analog 2, Type 2 (G), Revision 2
[   22.128124] b43-phy0: Found Radio: Manuf 0x17F, ID 0x2050, Revision 
2, Version 0

[   22.264280] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: direct-loading firmware b43/ucode5.fw
[   22.412649] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: direct-loading firmware b43/pcm5.fw
[   22.541911] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: direct-loading firmware 
b43/b0g0initvals5.fw
[   22.658153] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: direct-loading firmware 
b43/b0g0bsinitvals5.fw

*|

|*While lspci:*|

|*0001:10:12.0 Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries 
BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)


*|

|**|What can I check?

|**| 



--
Mick

Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

On 7/4/19 9:51 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote:
> John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> If you find something like those missing packages, put it on the TODO list 
>> in the Debian Wiki for PowerPC. The b43-fwcutter package is already on the 
>> list, however, so don’t worry.
> 
> just a kind reminder: it is still missing :)
I have only limited time, sorry.

Adrian

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Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[Riccardo Mottola]

Hi Adrian

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

If you find something like those missing packages, put it on the TODO list in 
the Debian Wiki for PowerPC. The b43-fwcutter package is already on the list, 
however, so don’t worry.


just a kind reminder: it is still missing :)

Riccardo

Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

> On Feb 4, 2019, at 2:22 PM, Riccardo Mottola  
> wrote:
> 
> PS: it would of course help other users of this card to have b43-fwcutte 
> readily available in current apt sources.

Yes, I am aware of that. We have that already on the list but my time is 
limited and working on Debian Ports is not my main job, I am doing this in my 
freetime.

I am also not just limited to my work on the PowerPC ports but all the other 
architectures in Debian Ports as well. The work is really time-consuming and 
requires a lot of testing which is why things like fixing the bootloader for 
PowerPC/PPC64 isn’t something that can be done overnight.

I will be moving into a larger apartment soon and while I am moving , I don’t 
have too much time to work on Ports. After I have moved, I will have enough 
space to put all my retro hardware on storage and retrieve it whenever I need 
it for Debian tests, including the installer.

I do want to fix all the remaining issues and I will actually fix them but I 
cannot do it right now and immediately. I also currently don’t have hardware 
set up to be able to reproduce graphics glitches as reported by Noah, for 
example.

If you find something like those missing packages, put it on the TODO list in 
the Debian Wiki for PowerPC. The b43-fwcutter package is already on the list, 
however, so don’t worry.

Thanks,
Adrian
(currently returning from FOSDEM)

Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[Riccardo Mottola]

Hi Adrian,

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

I don't think this error message is related to your CPU but rather to your
WiFi chipset. I would try installing the legacy version of the driver.

I will be able to test this myself in around a month after I have moved
into my new apartment. I will have enough space there to set up allBCM4306
my retro computers, including one iBook G4. Although, I don't know what
kind of wireless chipset mine has. I have two iBook G4 though, so maybe
we're lucky one of them has the right chipset.

If you can wait until then, I will be able to help.


at the end it was an issue of kernel modules while trying to test legacy 
and non-legacy version.


The guide is correct. For the Revision 03 of BCM4306 the normal version 
of firmware-b43-installer is enough and works fine for me after a reboot!


Very good. I will test it now in more complex wireless environments like 
at work, but the iBook being vintage is now mostly relegated at home for 
testing and PPC development.


thanks for the help,

Riccardo

PS: it would of course help other users of this card to have b43-fwcutte 
readily available in current apt sources.

Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

On 2/2/19 2:23 PM, Riccardo Mottola wrote:
> dmesg tells me:
> [16259.858142] b43-wlan ERROR: Dual-core devices are not supported
> [16259.861747] b43: probe of ssb0:0 failed with error -524
> [16259.878169] Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PNLS ]
> 
> my iBook is for sure not Dual-core! would be too nice :)

I don't think this error message is related to your CPU but rather to your
WiFi chipset. I would try installing the legacy version of the driver.

I will be able to test this myself in around a month after I have moved
into my new apartment. I will have enough space there to set up all
my retro computers, including one iBook G4. Although, I don't know what
kind of wireless chipset mine has. I have two iBook G4 though, so maybe
we're lucky one of them has the right chipset.

If you can wait until then, I will be able to help.

Thanks,
Adrian

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Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[Riccardo Mottola]

Hi Adrian,


On 2/1/19 4:59 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

See: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/b43-fwcutter/1%3A019-3/



fine, I downloaded and installed b43-fwcutter using dpkg.

Then following this guide:

https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx#b43-b43legacy


I installed

apt-get install firmware-b43-installer

because I have, according to lspci:

0001:10:12.0 Network controller: Broadcom Limited BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless 
LAN Controller (rev 03)

Revision 03 and not revision 02, so not the legacy version.


Firmware downloaded without apparent errors


However, I get no device!

dmesg tells me:
[16259.858142] b43-wlan ERROR: Dual-core devices are not supported
[16259.861747] b43: probe of ssb0:0 failed with error -524
[16259.878169] Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PNLS ]

my iBook is for sure not Dual-core! would be too nice :)



Riccardo

Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[John Paul Adrian Glaubitz]

> On Feb 1, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Riccardo Mottola  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Riccardo Mottola wrote:
>> 
>> any news on getting b43-fwcutter in our current repositories?
>> 
>> Alternatively, how can I install the sid version: can I somehow download the 
>> .deb manually (from where?) and install it with dpkg? 
> 
> may I ask again? I'm still using an USB dongle which is pretty inconvenient...

See: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/b43-fwcutter/1%3A019-3/

Adrian

Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[Riccardo Mottola]

Hi all,

Riccardo Mottola wrote:


any news on getting b43-fwcutter in our current repositories?

Alternatively, how can I install the sid version: can I somehow 
download the .deb manually (from where?) and install it with dpkg? 


may I ask again? I'm still using an USB dongle which is pretty 
inconvenient...


Riccardo

Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[Riccardo Mottola]

Hi all!


swamprock wrote:
You can use Jessie’s fwcutter. This is what I did when I discovered 
that it hadn’t been updated for sid.


any news on getting b43-fwcutter in our current repositories?

Alternatively, how can I install the sid version: can I somehow download 
the .deb manually (from where?) and install it with dpkg?


Riccardo

Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[swamprock]

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On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 2:09 PM, Riccardo Mottola  
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Brock suggested me to look here:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/PowerPC/FAQ#How_do_I_get_wireless_working.3F
>
> there is a typo for sure, lscpi is probably lspci,.
>
> In any case it suggests firmware-b43-installer, however that one and
> firmware-b43legacy-installer require the package
>
> b43-fwcutter
>
> which is unavailable.
>
> Anyone of you having their Airport working?
>
> Riccardo

You can use Jessie’s fwcutter. This is what I did when I discovered that it 
hadn’t been updated for sid.

Brian

Re: iBook G4 - Wireless

[Riccardo Mottola]

Hi,


Brock suggested me to look here:

https://wiki.debian.org/PowerPC/FAQ#How_do_I_get_wireless_working.3F

there is a typo for sure, lscpi is probably lspci,.


In any case it suggests firmware-b43-installer, however that one and 
firmware-b43legacy-installer require the package


b43-fwcutter

which is unavailable.


Anyone of you having their Airport working?


Riccardo