Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-10-04 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Oct 04, 2019 at 06:40:15PM +0200, Jonas Meurer a écrit : > > And a side note: please accept that others in the project have opinions > that object to yours. Not agreeing with your point of view doesn't mean > that you're silenced or censored, despite you behaving like this. Quite > on the

Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-10-04 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ole Streicher: > You may guess that people using github accept pull requests, but you > even can't see whether they actually like them -- there are many reasons > why people use github, and PRs may not necessarily the specific reason > for the repository. And you can't disable this Github featu

Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-10-04 Thread Ole Streicher
Hi Thomas, Thomas Goirand writes: > On 9/13/19 2:35 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> It's based on a false premise. No one is forced to use any VCS to >> maintain Debian packages. If you don't want to talk to GitHub, send >> a patch to the BTS. > > If one slenderizes about a particular VCS URL, it

Re: Standing behind GNOME Foundation against Rothschild Patent Imaging LLC?

2019-10-04 Thread Laura Arjona Reina
Hello all El 30/9/19 a las 15:29, Neil McGovern escribió: > Thanks Chris and all for the support that's been shown in this thread, > it really does mean a lot while we're going through this complex period. > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2019 at 12:25:53AM +0100, Andy Simpkins wrote: >> Having read the 'cl

Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-10-04 Thread Jonas Meurer
Norbert Preining: >>> It's based on a false premise. No one is forced to use any VCS to maintain >>> Debian packages. If you don't want to talk to GitHub, send a patch to the >>> BTS. >> >> If one slenderizes about a particular VCS URL, it means it is where he >> wishes to have pull/merge reque

Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task

2019-10-04 Thread Ian Jackson
Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task"): > Ian Jackson: > > Such a small, essentially honorary, contribution wouldn't distort our > > volunteer setup, and don't need the levels of serious review and > > engagement that a larger amount does. But it would

Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-10-04 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sat, 05 Oct 2019, Norbert Preining wrote: > > If one slenderizes about a particular VCS URL, it means it is where he > > wishes to have pull/merge requests from. Otherwise, what's the point? > > Wrong. I don't care for PR, and accept them as well as patches to BTS, > whatever comes. This is FUD

Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-10-04 Thread Norbert Preining
> > It's based on a false premise. No one is forced to use any VCS to maintain > > Debian packages. If you don't want to talk to GitHub, send a patch to the > > BTS. > > If one slenderizes about a particular VCS URL, it means it is where he > wishes to have pull/merge requests from. Otherwise,

Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-10-04 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 9/13/19 12:51 PM, Andy Simpkins wrote: > Just because you, and I, believe that "No Debian contributor should be > expected or encouraged... ...to use any non-free tools" does not mean > that we should *prevent* them from doing so. Though advertising for a non-free service through the VCS fields

Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-10-04 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 9/13/19 2:35 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote: > It's based on a false premise. No one is forced to use any VCS to maintain > Debian packages. If you don't want to talk to GitHub, send a patch to the > BTS. If one slenderizes about a particular VCS URL, it means it is where he wishes to have pull/

Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-10-04 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 9/13/19 8:14 AM, Ansgar wrote: > So assume I want to avoid using non-free DNS and CDN services, but still > contribute to Debian. How should that work as long as Debian uses these > services? If you have in mind the CDN used for security updates, well it'd be a nice idea if DSAs were thinking

Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-10-04 Thread Vincent Bernat
❦ 4 octobre 2019 16:57 +02, Thomas Goirand : >>> That would just lead to packages using these to no longer including the >>> Vcs-* fields... There are some valid reasons to host packages on >>> services such as GitLab or GitHub such as when they are hosted there as >>> part of the upstream proj

Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

2019-10-04 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 9/16/19 6:53 PM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > On 9/12/19 7:49 PM, Ansgar wrote: > >> That would just lead to packages using these to no longer including the >> Vcs-* fields... There are some valid reasons to host packages on >> services such as GitLab or GitHub such as when they are hosted there as