On 2/20/20 8:50 AM, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> On 2/20/20 8:30 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
>> For the record; I have _absolutely no doubt_ that Sam is working to benefit
>> Debian. But in that particular instance, I happen to strongly disagree that
>> his actions have a positive effect on Debia
Hi Roberto,
Regardless of whatever could be my political views (which I'm trying to
set aside), there's issues with your reasoning below:
On 2/20/20 2:20 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:
> Another and clearly better and more inclusive approach would be to not
> "penalize" people for the government u
micah anderson writes:
> Ansgar writes:
>>> The crux of my strong disagreement is here: as DPL, you just _framed_ the
>>> Montreal miniDebConf as a protest.
>>
>> I think the announcement by the organizers framed the conference as
>> being organized specifically to support the BDS movement
>
> Yo
Ansgar writes:
>>
>> The crux of my strong disagreement is here: as DPL, you just _framed_ the
>> Montreal miniDebConf as a protest.
>
> I think the announcement by the organizers framed the conference as
> being organized specifically to support the BDS movement
You might think that but I thin
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 11:37:23AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Ansgar writes:
>
> > If you have 80-90%+ of parliament, from pretty much all parties, agree
> > on something, then it *is* pretty much as uncontroversional as it gets
> > there.
>
> This is an entertaining example to use in a projec
It's most likely fine. Tor Project has to abide by DFARS (and I too when I was
a Tor contractor) due to its DARPA funding and we all used Debian.
DFARS is literally 600+ pages of regulations, not really feasible for a small
org to crawl over in detail.
X
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Hi Betty,
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Ansgar writes:
> If you have 80-90%+ of parliament, from pretty much all parties, agree
> on something, then it *is* pretty much as uncontroversional as it gets
> there.
This is an entertaining example to use in a project whose mission is free
software. I'm pretty sure that by that standard it'
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IT Asset Specialist - Software
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Hi Sam
On 2020/02/20 15:44, Sam Hartman wrote:
> I really hope that supporting our people doing the work at DC20 is
> uncontroversial.
During DC19 I've spoken about this topic to dozens (as in, literally
dozens) of people who have approached me who care about DebConf and who
have contributed to i
On Thu, 2020-02-20 at 17:11 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> But my main point is this: Ansgar asserted that it is uncontroversial
> that the BDS movement is antisemitic. Obviously that was not true.
As I wrote it's only as uncontroversional as, say, climate change or
usefulness of vaccines is. Of co
Felix Lechner writes ("Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight
Israel not the DC20 Team"):
> Hi Ian,
>
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 3:50 AM Ian Jackson
> wrote:
> >
> > The BDS movement is not antisemitic.
>
> Please have a look at this report, especially the final page.
> http:
Ian Jackson dijo [Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 11:50:26AM +]:
> Ansgar writes ("Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel
> not the DC20 Team"):
> > I think the announcement by the organizers framed the conference as
> > being organized specifically to support the BDS movement, a m
Hello Debian Community
Criticism of the BJP government of India is not considered to be anti Hindu.
Criticism of Myanmar because of their treatment of the Rohingyas is not
considered to be anti Buddhist.
Criticism of Saudi Arabia because of their treatment of women is not
considered to be an
Hi,
Em 18/02/2020 15:31, Roberto C. Sánchez escreveu:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 06:29:34PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
Right. But choosing Brazil for a DebConf venue at a time when it did
not even have national-level anti-discrimination protection for LGBT
people[*] was done in good taste an
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 05:03:50PM +0100, Dato Simó wrote:
> > If we force you, it is inherently distancing. If you do it on
> > your own, it can be constructive.
>
> This sentence is beyond the pale for a PL.
How so? The project, including various of its apparatus will ask people
to self-cens
> If we force you, it is inherently distancing. If you do it on
> your own, it can be constructive.
This sentence is beyond the pale for a PL.
-d
[This will be my last message on this thread.
I go away on vacation tomorrow.]
> "Didier" == Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
Didier> The crux of my strong disagreement is here: as DPL, you just
Didier> _framed_ the Montreal miniDebConf as a protest.
This is a case where perception is
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 07:49:59AM +0100, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
> We could have something like a "bid acceptability check", at the start of
> the process, to detect, discuss and formally decide on Elephants early
> on.
> One way to achieve that could be to poll regular DebConf attendees about
> t
Hi Ian,
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 3:50 AM Ian Jackson
wrote:
>
> The BDS movement is not antisemitic.
Please have a look at this report, especially the final page.
http://bit.ly/TheNewAnti-SemitesReport
Kind regards
Felix Lechner
Ansgar writes ("Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel
not the DC20 Team"):
> I think the announcement by the organizers framed the conference as
> being organized specifically to support the BDS movement, a movement
> that is uncontroversially seen as antisemitic. They cou
On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:26:06PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> > absolutly. I still dont think it was right to have this decission in
> > private,
> > but at least announcing it earlier would have been better.
> >
> > (I do think having the decission in private was neccessary because else the
>
Michael Banck writes:
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 10:02:53AM +0100, Ansgar wrote:
>> the BDS movement, a movement that is uncontroversially seen as
>> antisemitic.
>
> Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
So you are a Sith?
But yes, some people also find climate change or usefulness of vaccines
(autism!
On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 10:02:53AM +0100, Ansgar wrote:
> the BDS movement, a movement that is uncontroversially seen as
> antisemitic.
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
Didier 'OdyX' Raboud writes:
> Le mercredi, 19 février 2020, 16.17:00 h CET Sam Hartman a écrit :
>> Debian is Asked to Support a Protest of a Debian Activity
>> =
>>
>> The Montreal organizers could have simply organized an alternative for
>
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