Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

On Sun, Aug 09, 2020 at 08:51:30AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > It sounds like you are hearing me as disagreeing with *you* and not with > some combination of your ideas and how they are presented. > I'd like to offer to sit down virtually and work through this. > I don't want to come across as

Re: Keysigning in times of COVID-19

On Thu, Aug 06, 2020 at 08:44:57PM +0200, Giovanni Mascellani wrote: > Not to mention that as far as I know there are already DDs whose key > identity does not correspond to any government-given identity. So we > already acknowledge that we don't really care about what is your "legal" > name.

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

Hi Russ, On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 10:01:26AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > This is a great question. I'm not sure I have a great answer, (i think you do) your comments on this have definitly been much more than what I hoped or rather anticipated, back then when I sent my private reply to

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

Hi, I'm sorry to bring up this again, but I'm pretty sure it's useful ;) As in, I send the following reply to Russ (in private) and he replied in private and we agreed to re-post our conversation to this list. So here we go: (below the quote is what I've sent to Russ two weeks ago. He'll

Re: MiniDebCamp 2021 pre-FOSDEM?

Hi, a long time ago on a planet far away... I wrote: On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 05:57:16PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > so it seems to me, the MiniDebCamp 2020 pre-FOSDEM was - in many ways - > a nice and useful event, which people enjoyed and where some stuff got > done. IOW: I hope

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 01:02:53PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > I sincerely apologize to anybody I offended. See (or don't see) below. [...] thanks. > (I probably dug myself in deeper :-( nah, I dont think so. You made some mistake and apologized, so at least I will be glad to move on.

Re: [Summary] Discourse for Debian

On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 10:22:29AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > This must be one of those days when I feel the need to respond to more emails > than I usually do. but why? > (2) maybe bringing systemd into a discussion is (should be considered) > something just as disrepectful (harmful)

tracking our readers? (Re: Testing Discourse for Debian - Moderation concepts)

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 02:31:23PM -0700, Sean Whitton wrote: > > The trust system gives me no trust at all. It is very closely bound to > > participation over the web interface, monitors the reading frequency and > > time > > spent on reading by users. > [1] >

Re: Salsa as authentication provider for Debian

Dear waldi, Enrico, On Sun, Apr 05, 2020 at 08:46:10PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: [many many details] yay! many thanks for starting & doing this, this is gonna be awesome! ( & thanks to those helping making this happen as well! Either by action or thoughts.) > ## Exit plan I especially like

Re: Question to all: Outreach

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 07:01:35PM +0800, Shengjing Zhu wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 5:26 PM Daniel Lange wrote: > [...] > > As Debian can afford paying for its interns itself, we do. > This looks bad to me. Should Debian pay directly to its contributors? Indeed this is a good question,

Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th 2020

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 11:26:06PM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > absolutly. I still dont think it was right to have this decission in > > private, > > but at least announcing it earlier would have been better. > > > > (I do think having the decission in private was neccessary because else the >

Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th 2020

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 08:10:42PM +, Stefano Rivera wrote: > Hi Jonathan (2020.02.18_16:29:34_+) > > I haven't publicly said this before, but I believe it was a big mistake: > > * Not having a bid committee for that vote > I don't know how necessary a bid committee has been, since the

Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 07:04:01PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > this. freaking unbelievable. so if we decided in that GR to go full blown for systemd, would it be good to spend Debian ressources on an event working on other init systems? absolutly, i'd say. or, when some cpu architecture g

Re: Request to Mini DebConf Montreal Organizers: Fight Israel not the DC20 Team

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 08:00:07PM +0100, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > I'm really disappointed and sad that you found no other way to support both > the DebConf20 _and_ the Montreal miniDebConf teams other than asking the > latter explicitly to do without Debian's logistical support. this.

debconf decision process (was Re: Announcing miniDebConf Montreal 2020 -- August 6th to August 9th 2020)

On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 06:29:34PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: > [...] but I think the current DebConf committee > should strongly consider setting up a bid committee again (even if it > largely or mostly overlaps with the DCC, that might just be natural) and > keep the bid decision public as it

Re: Debian release management and security questions

On Wed, Feb 05, 2020 at 09:51:29PM +0100, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: > > jessie > no longer supported by Debian. Supported in the LTS project, maintained by > another people than Debian, until the end of the year 2020. until the end of June 2020, see https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/ > > stretch -

MiniDebCamp 2021 pre-FOSDEM?

hi, so it seems to me, the MiniDebCamp 2020 pre-FOSDEM was - in many ways - a nice and useful event, which people enjoyed and where some stuff got done. IOW: I hope you liked it! So, shall we repeat this for 2021? And shall we do it again at HSBXL? The venue is a bit challenging but also quite

Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions?

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 11:21:08PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 04:29:57PM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > Make the machine-readable copyright file mandatory. > > > It is much easier to "parse" than just a bunch of copyr

Re: possibly exhausted ftp-masters (Re: Do we still value contributions?

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 04:30:58PM +0100, Thorsten Alteholz wrote: > Make the machine-readable copyright file mandatory. > It is much easier to "parse" than just a bunch of copyright information. hear hear. (as in: what's blocking us from doing this?) -- cheers, Holger

+1 (Re: Some thoughts about Diversity and the CoC)

On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 05:16:56PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > > To avoid any appearance of doubt, I stand with my transgender colleagues, > > I believe that it is completely unacceptable to attempt to erase their > > experience, and I am completely in favor of expelling from the project > >

Re: Community Team - where we want to go

Hi Sam, On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 09:34:25AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > >> 2) Choose to delegate. From my side the biggest question is > Holger> could you please give a rough range for what 'enough people' > Holger> would mean to you? Are 5 enough? 12? 23? 42? > I'd prefer to toss

Re: Community Team - where we want to go

Dear Sam, On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 07:37:16AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > 2) Choose to delegate. From my side the biggest question is likely to > be whether you have managed to recruit enough people to [...] could you please give a rough range for what 'enough people' would mean to you? Are 5

Re: BSP Reimbursements

On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 09:26:07AM +0200, Elena ``of Valhalla'' Grandi wrote: > I'd think that the main difference from a regular sprint is that on a > Camp there isn't a predefined theme, people come and decide what they > want to work on (sometimes in microsprints of 2-3 people). sounds like

+1

On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 11:18:41AM -0300, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > I > think having a single procedure for "meetings" would be a win. +1 -- cheers, Holger ---

Re: BSP Reimbursements

On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 12:54:53PM +0200, Kyle Robbertze wrote: > A distance limit effectively prevents people from remoter areas of the > world. +1 (This basically means almost anyone not living in Europe.) -- cheers, Holger

Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task

On Mon, Sep 30, 2019 at 10:53:33AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > To be clear, I think the work that folks are doing on the unofficial > Debian ports is valuable and important and that the m68k GCC task is a > good idea. I only dislike using Debian funds to pay people for their > time. I think that

Re: Standing behind GNOME Foundation against Rothschild Patent Imaging LLC?

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 05:04:47PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > I concur, especially as Debian also distributes shotwell. +1 -- cheers, Holger ---

Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 09:07:51PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote: > > what about keeping old contributors attracted? > I'm afraid this argument cuts both ways. I would find it extremely > demotivating if Debian started spending money to pay people to work > on tasks that up to now have been volunteer

Re: Using Debian funds to support a gcc development task

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 02:26:11PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > If I'm mistaken and the m68k port is attracting new contributors to > Debian, that contribute in other areas as well, I might be persuaded > otherwise. what about keeping old contributors attracted? -- cheers, Holger

Re: GR proposal: mandating VcsGit and VcsBrowser for all packages, using the "gbp patches unapplied" layout, and maybe also mandating hosted on Salsa

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 08:10:39AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > For several of these recommendations if I cannot get consensus, I will > call for a GR myself. TBH, I'm not thrilled to read this, though of course it's in your rights to do that. (I'm afraid such GRs would cost a lot of time which

Re: Debian and Non-Free Services

On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 01:30:24PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > Subject: Free Software Needs Free Tools ZOMG. IMO one of the less good ideas brought to this list. I will refrain from further comments for everyones benefit, Ansgar brought up the most relevant objections already. -- cheers,

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:22:35PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > The implication of "delegate" is that these are powers of the DPL. > Looking at powers of the DPL: > > 5 Project Leader > 5.1 Powers > (5) Propose draft General Resolutions and amendments. > > I'm not sure why you think this

Re: Intent to Delegate: Delegation Advisory Group

Hi Sam, why exactly do you think a delegation is useful and/or needed here? On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 11:47:44AM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > Task Description > [...] > The group is delegated the power to introduce or amend a general resolution > overriding a delegation that the

on using the wrong mailinglists (Re: Upstream metadata to help our users contribute back to projects we redistribute.)

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 05:27:51PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > (posted on -project because of the context, but answers probably > belong to -devel, where I am not subscribed...) I understand we live in strange times, but pleaaase, if your content belongs on -devel, but you are neither

Re: Sprint report from the AH/DAM/DPL Sprint, 22/23 June 2019

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 02:00:52AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > There were other points I disliked or disagreed but as said the mail was > too long and the current noise level at DebConf is unbearable, so I > don't remember. apropos not remembering: I very much *agree* with most of t

Re: Sprint report from the AH/DAM/DPL Sprint, 22/23 June 2019

Hi Steve, thanks for this report, but it's too long. Really. For now I will just say that I'm *really* horrified by the idea of AH^wcommunity team keeping lists of people's behaviour. This can go very wrong in so many directions easily. Also I dont think that's Sam hastily conducted survey is

Re: GR proposal: mandating VcsGit and VcsBrowser for all packages, using the "gbp patches unapplied" layout, and maybe also mandating hosted on Salsa

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 01:35:59AM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > tl;dr: Shall we standardize on 3 layouts? Or simply not vote on this? no, its too early to standardize on layouts. -- tschau, Holger ---

Re: GR proposal: mandating VcsGit and VcsBrowser for all packages, using the "gbp patches unapplied" layout, and maybe also mandating hosted on Salsa

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 11:59:59PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 07:31:11PM +0200, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > 1- Mandating VcsGit and VcsBrowser, meaning we do mandate using Git for > > packaging. > > Good. Especially if we can then drop quilt. > > > 2- Mandating using

Re: Speaking your Mind

On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 09:21:47AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I think this thread has mostly run its course, but there's a point in here > that's extremely important to me that I can't leave unsaid. same here. > Holger Levsen writes: > > > and btw, just about celebrating

Re: Speaking your Mind

On Mon, Jul 01, 2019 at 02:07:37PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > But I don't want there to be a chilling effect out of fear. yet today you asked this discussion to be stopped, even though the thread was civil and on-topic. and btw, just about celebrating hispanic heritage... the Spanish were

Re: Speaking your Mind

On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 02:44:33PM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > and btw, just about celebrating hispanic heritage... the Spanish were > responsible (with a bunch of other European countries) for destroying > several cultures in the Americas (and elsewhere), slaughtering people &

Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money

dear Russ, once again, many thanks for expressing nicely what I couldnt express that well. My thoughts exactly. -- tschau, Holger, who first wanted to send this in private to Russ and then decided against.

Re: Realizing Good Ideas with Debian Money

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:56:16PM +, Luca Filipozzi wrote: > > For me this implies that Debian should aim at having at least US$500k > > reserves, to be prepared if there is no large donation coming for a > > future refresh. > Plus another $300k in reserves for DebConf in case those

Re: paying people for Debian work (Re: Why do we take so long to realise good ideas

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 04:15:02PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > I think it is probably not helpful to go into these kind of details > now but since you raise the point I feel I must respond. Whether > Dunc-Tank was a Debian initiative was precisely one of the seriously > contested points. agreed

Re: Question for Planet Admins: What Should I do if another Developer Removes my Blog

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 05:49:13PM +0200, Karsten Merker wrote: > b) The only case where I would consider a forced removal of >somebody else's feed by somebody who is not part of planet >admin to be justified would be if the further inclusion of the >feed on planet would constitute a

Re: Censorship in Debian

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 05:35:38PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > But concerning the demotion to Debian Maintainer (DM) status, I think > that it is sending a wrong message to the community, that DMs do not > need to hold the same standards of behaviour as Debian Developers (DDs) > do. > >

Re: [Pkg-samba-maint] Bug#532856: Bug#532856: closed by Mathieu Parent (Closing " umask settings overridden by Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) clients")

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:08:19PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#closing spells things out nicely > right at the start. I can understand tolerating hard cases with difficult > packages, but we should not advocate a degradation of the golden standard > because of

Re: Conflict escalation and discipline

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 09:46:03PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > If there would be one clear rule, I´d say: Never ever attack a person. > Harmlessness with each other goes a long, long way. > > Wrongdoing someone who probably did something that did not serve the > project or another

Re: Conflict escalation and discipline

On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 05:17:10PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > This group would: > * Write and publish guidelines for how to behave [...] > * The new group would have a foundational document which would >explicitly give it authority to do all of the above. this would be horrible. we are

Re: Naming of teams on salsa.debian.org

On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 04:33:00PM +, Ximin Luo wrote: > The proposal is more along the lines of "if your group fits into this > category then it *should/must* have this prefix". thanks for clarifying! -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Naming of teams on salsa.debian.org

On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 02:33:00PM +, Ximin Luo wrote: > It's better to standardise on a set of prefixes and ditch the suffix > completely. Prefixes will look better and be easier to navigate, when lists > of group names are sorted. > > debian-* - for Debian infrastructure and admin stuff >

Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main

On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 01:52:07PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > Furthermore, this "file is dangerous" attribute ought to be copied > much more. no, it ought to be the default. all files should be considered harmful, unless tagged otherwise. > It seems to me therefore that this XDG url saving

Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main

On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 05:58:31PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:50:06PM +0000, Holger Levsen wrote: > > > > Ah, damnit. It supports *some* xattrs (like the security namespace), > > > > but apparently not *user* xattrs. > > >

Re: Automatic downloading of non-free software by stuff in main

On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 03:27:42AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Ah, damnit. It supports *some* xattrs (like the security namespace), > > but apparently not *user* xattrs. > Good. While xattrs have some uses, this is a hidden privacy hole most users > aren't aware of could you be so kind to

Re: Debian banners

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 05:12:40PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > I still have some heavy-duty banners we've used at conferences, as > well as a banner stand in my basement that I need to get rid of. > If you want them or you have an idea what to do with them, please > let me know. Else, come the

Re: Debian-branded USB-powered fans

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 10:24:53AM -0400, Justin R. Andrusk wrote: > Wow, there is an Ohio in Sweden and Portugal? Lol, I was referencing the > state of Ohio in the USA. …and I was referencing the original mail that said that shipping outside Europe was probably not worth it ;-) -- cheers,

Re: Debian-branded USB-powered fans

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 09:20:49AM -0400, Justin R. Andrusk wrote: > I'll take some off of your hands and can distribute them for Ohio Linux > 2018. is that Ohio in Sweden or the in Portugal? -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Are online services also software for Debian's rules?

Hi, you are running this on a computer with non-free software (*). Should everything now be in contrib? Or can we maybe rather bury this thread? (*) all hardware includes non free software… at least all, which is assembled into a "computer". You surely find some hardware pieces with only free

Re: vPro and secure Debian systems

On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 09:24:41AM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: > For people who have a computer or laptop with vPro capabilities, can it > be made secure or are they better off getting rid of that system? modern intel CPUs also support CPU-"debugging" via USB… fun fun fun. epoxy and glitter can

Re: If Debian support OS certification?

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 02:32:20PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > A trustworthy certification report that said "this machine would have > passed the certification, except that the wifi card requires a > separately supplied firmware blob from Debian non-free" would be > extremely useful to many users

Re: should debian comment about the recent 'ransomware' malware.

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 01:59:37PM +1000, Russell Stuart wrote: > Microsoft users or indeed Android users, iOS users and I presume OSX > users get security updates installed automagically by default. that's awesome and I hope by 2019 the default stable Debian desktop install will do that too!

Re: Debian contributor Register of Interests

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 08:08:09AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > Indeed. I also think there's a hang-up about financial conflicts of > interest in the discussion, but for at least me (and I suspect others), > money is a pretty weak motivator. I generally have enough that it's > something I

Re: having public irc logs?

On Sat, Apr 08, 2017 at 09:08:55AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Fri, Apr 07, 2017 at 02:21:10PM +, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > > I didn't suggest that, but privacy online is seriously something that > > *doesn't* exist, and people not understanding that are simply wrong. > > I

Report from the Debian Edu sprint in Oslo in November 2016

- Forwarded message from "Planet Debian: " <user@rss2email.invalid> - Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 13:58:38 - From: "Planet Debian: " <user@rss2email.invalid> Subject: Holger Levsen: 20161221-debian-edu-sprint-in-oslo X-RSS-Feed: http://planet.debian

Re: Formal declaration of weak package ownership in source packages (was: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers)

On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 04:15:22PM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote: > why would it be important to change that kind of information for a package in > stable? The audience interested in this field is interested in uploads to > unstable, so is it not sufficient if the information is up-to-date there?

Re: Formal declaration of weak package ownership in source packages (was: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers)

On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 03:08:54PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote: > > https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/multistrap > I see that https://wiki.debian.org/LowThresholdNmu lists you as > [[JohannesSchauer|Johannes 'josch' Schauer]] while the maintainer field is > Johannes Schauer , that

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 03:42:58PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > DRAFT GENERAL RESOLUTION STARTS > > OPTION A = "keep the status quo" > OPTION B equals: > 7. We amend the Constitution section 6.1(4) to remove the words > "requires a 3:1 majority" and "this requires a 3:1 majority".

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

On Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 01:40:31PM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote: > > motivation. being able to say "I'm the maintainer of $foo" is a *great* > > motivation for many. Taking this away *might* cause a lot more harm that > > gain. > Why would this be taken away? motivation works in strange ways.

Re: Replace the TC power to depose maintainers

Hi, I'm just commenting on this single issue (and aspect of it…) here+now… On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 07:20:36PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 03:46:05PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: > > 3. Abolish maintainership entirely. > This is the obviously right solution. while I

GR proposal: give up on declassifying debian-private (Re: General Resolution: Declassifying debian-private results)

Hi, so, as previously announced I hereby like to propose to hold another GR to revert the decission of https://www.debian.org/vote/2005/vote_002.en.html as the last 11 years have shown, that noone is willing to do the work and that it would be very difficult up to impractical or unethical, as too

Re: Proposed GR: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private

On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 03:37:08PM +0200, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote: > === BEGIN GR TEXT === > > Title: Acknowledge that the debian-private list will remain private. > > 1. The 2005 General Resolution titled "Declassification of debian-private >list archives" is repealed. > 2. In keeping with

Re: Debian slogan / tag line / emphasizing freedom

On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 03:18:23PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > - having a tag line for each release, highlighting something innovative > like speed, privacy or security I like "Debian, where code matters more than commercials". -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: Digital

Re: Debian slogan / tag line / emphasizing freedom

On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 07:50:25AM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > On Tue, Jun 07, 2016 at 12:22:51PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > Make Debian Great Again. > Because a few people seem confused, this is the slogan of the U.S. > reality TV star turned politician Donald Trump. Trump even stole

testing is a tool for the release team (Re: third-party packages adding apt sources

On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 02:40:56PM +0200, Ole Streicher wrote: > This behavious may be useful for a development platform, but for an end > user this is just inacceptable. This is why we keep saying that testing is a tool for the release team and not a suite ment for users. Despite that it is

Re: third-party packages adding apt sources

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 08:45:09AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I don't think we can provide that inside Debian, at least without some > pretty significant changes to how we handle stable releases that are > contrary to some of our goals for stable. I think I heard someone saying "PPA" or such…

Re: Short tribute video in honor of Ian Murdock in FOSDEM

Hi Laura, On Samstag, 16. Januar 2016, Laura Arjona Reina wrote: > We, the Debian Publicity team, are trying to prepare a short tribute > video in honour of Ian Murdock to be screened at FOSDEM[1] awesome! where+when exactly do you plan to show it there? FOSDEM is huuuge. Did you contact the

Re: Short tribute video in honor of Ian Murdock in FOSDEM

On Samstag, 16. Januar 2016, Daniel Pocock wrote: > The FOSDEM organizers have been very kind and proactive in this, I saw > some emails that went around about it already. If you have access to > Pentabarf, you may see an unconfirmed event with Debian in the title, > it looks like they have

Re: more official Debian cloud images (Re: Debian Project News - January 1, 2016)

Hi, On Sonntag, 3. Januar 2016, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > what were the criterias to choose to endorse/bless Microsofts > > platform, or to ask differently: will there be official Debian > > images (announced in DPN maybe too) for other commercial cloud > > providers as well? > > for which cloud

more official Debian cloud images (Re: Debian Project News - January 1, 2016)

Hi, (btw, thanks for DPN!) On Samstag, 2. Januar 2016, Laura Arjona Reina wrote: > Official Debian Images for Microsoft Azure > > The Microsoft Azure platform officially endorses and supports Debian, by > providing in their marketplace official Debian images, which are created > in

Re: Interpreting the init system GR results

On Mittwoch, 19. November 2014, Russ Allbery wrote: I originally posted this in a thread on debian-private, but on further reflection it seems appropriate for a broader audience. my reply there: lovely words, thanks a wow. really, thanks for expressing this this way. My thoughts exactly, but

Re: Being part of a community and behaving

Hi Ian, On Donnerstag, 13. November 2014, Ian Jackson wrote: The correct reaction to people not adopting your software is to make your software better, not to conduct an aggressive marketing campaign aimed at persuading upstreams to built it in as a dependency, nor to overrun distro mailing

Re: Update to reimbursement procedure (now: max 3 months after expense)

Hi, On Montag, 6. Oktober 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: Both 2008 and 2011 are more than a year ago, so I don't see any justification for making this change and would like to see it reverted. /me too Also, I don't think that 3 months is unreasonable. My employer applies a two-week soft

Re: Debian Quiz game

Hi Lucas, (bcc:ed the other interested parties...) On Donnerstag, 2. Oktober 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I've pushed the current state (with answers!) to collab-maint: http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/debian-quiz.git/ It would be great if a team could magically form to maintain

Re: Debian Quiz game

Hi, On Freitag, 3. Oktober 2014, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: I don't have any strong opinion about where things should go. It could be turned into a simple HTML document with javascript to hide/show answers. But it could also be nice to translate the game using po4a. I also like the idea of

Re: Nordic Debian meetup at FSCONS

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Re: Maximum term for tech ctte members

Hi Anthony, On Freitag, 23. Mai 2014, Anthony Towns wrote: Would anyone else be supportive of a proposal to set a term for tech ctte membership? yes. YMMV. I think I'd rather second a proposal along these lines than actually propose it... me, too, sorry. Thanks for bringing this up on

Re: Possible Two Color Debian Logo White Vinyl Sticker Group Buy

Hi, On Dienstag, 6. Mai 2014, Steve Langasek wrote: What would really be nice would be if someone would make another run of the shaped swirl vinyl stickers. I think I last saw these for sale back in ~2006, and I've gone through enough hardware since then that my current laptop is bare. :(

Re: Sponsoring a Tails hackfest?

Hi, On Montag, 5. Mai 2014, Paul Wise wrote: Indeed, definitely not the first time events for non-pure Debian Blends have been sponsored by Debian, I can see DebianEdu and Emdebian while some zealous purist still believe Debian Edu ain't a pure blend, I disagree and have facts to prove it:

Re: Sponsoring a Tails hackfest?

Hi, On Montag, 5. Mai 2014, Paul Wise wrote: The sprint I mentioned was in June 2011 and was apparently for releasing the DebianEdu based on Debian squeeze. At that time there were less DebianEdu things in Debian than there are now. right, (also) thanks to the sprint, Debian Edu squeeze was

Re: Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems

Hi, On Montag, 3. März 2014, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: It's a false dichtonomy, we could say that GNOME doesn't work on those platforms. That'd be sad, but it wouldn't make those platforms unusable, nor would it make GNOME generally unusable. It wouldn't be the first or the last time we don't

mailing list auto subscriptions

Hi, I believe every new DD or DM should be auto subscribed to -devel, -project and -devel-announce (and -private for DDs), best with the usual someone subscribed you for this, please confirm confirmation mail, not sure how to make this reality (as in: how to change DAM procedures), probably by

Re: GR: Selecting the default init system for Debian

Hi Guillem, I think you are missing the following options and have only listed options which you consider sensible or which you loath: h.) support them all equally: systemd, upstart, sysv and openrc and keep sysv as the default i.) support them all equally: systemd, upstart, sysv and openrc

Re: Should mailing list bans be published?

Hi, I'm quite very late to this party, but I want to express that I do agree with the general idea of publishing mailinglist bans. (In public, with a duration attached to it, probably with other restraints I've forgotten since I've read this thread.) What's the official status of the

Re: Debian companies group

Hi, On Dienstag, 3. September 2013, Raphael Hertzog wrote: But I don't understand why interested DD aren't allowed to subscribe to it. I also don't understand what the minimum size requirement brings. me neither. why are small debian companies no debian companies (in this context)? Why

Re: DebConf slides (was Re: Paths into Debian)

Hi, On Mittwoch, 28. August 2013, Moray Allan wrote: On 2013-08-28 13:36, Andreas Tille wrote: Thanks for the pointer. It seems there is currently no way to submit slides to Penta. I also uploaded my slides to my talks page and added a link to this in Penta. Is this something we

Re: Proposal #3: Upstream/Debian Project donations (was: PaySwarm-based donations)

On Mittwoch, 19. Juni 2013, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: While I am warry, I don't think we should mock or block those wishing to build this system to help aid Debian. While I agree that we should not mock those, I absolutly do think we should block those Once motivation is destroyed, it's

Re: PaySwarm-based Debian donations

Hi, I didnt want to participate in this thread anymore (all has been said) but then I found this new study linked below by chance and found it matching this thread too well... On Dienstag, 18. Juni 2013, Brian Gupta wrote: What do you think of this recent University Study?

Re: PaySwarm-based Debian donations (was: Re: KickStarter for Debian packages)

On Sonntag, 16. Juni 2013, Manu Sporny wrote: Thanks to everyone that has participated in the discussion thus far. :) I think there have been a number of solid concerns and issues raised, which I'm going to try and wrap into a proposal below. and then you continue to ignore these concerns and

Re: KickStarter for Debian packages - crowdfunding/donations for development

Hi, On Samstag, 15. Juni 2013, Russ Allbery wrote: There were some past experiments with this in Debian, and they caused a lot of social controversy. One of the problems with paying for work in the Debian context is that we're a world-wide project that welcomes contributions from everyone

Re: KickStarter for Debian packages - crowdfunding/donations for development

On Samstag, 15. Juni 2013, Nikolaus Rath wrote: I agree. It would add a whole new dimension to NMU'ing, orphaning, adopting, and salvaging packages with a large user base. For example, currently most people would probably happily accept co-maintainers even if they're confident that they could

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