Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2007-01-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 07:30:41PM +0100, joy wrote: > > It would also be helpful if there were people who are able to commit time > > to do significant but boring tasks to help DSA, expecting neither praise, > > acknowledgement or, most importantly, any additional rights/priveleges in > > return.

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2007-01-25 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 04:06:56PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Martin, Branden and myself have all been trying to address the original > issue as DPL So it's taking three mandates, three years, and it can't be done? Why not? How can the DPL not get something done by his delegates? What purpose

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-23 Thread Frederic Peters
Bill Allombert wrote: > I could add to Aurelien list that I really miss the hability to use > madison for my release work since the end of November and I still wait > for a DSA answer on that issue. `Status of GNOME in Debian`[1] is in no way critical but has been an useful tool to inform users o

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-22 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If one considers appointing a DSA nagging assistant instead, then of > > course it's not worth doing! It seems to be miss the point, though. > > The problem is insufficient communication, not insufficient

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-22 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 11:50:41AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If one considers appointing a DSA nagging assistant instead, then of > > course it's not worth doing! It seems to be miss the point, though. > > The problem is insufficient communicatio

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-22 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Friday 22 December 2006 11:50, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If one considers appointing a DSA nagging assistant instead, then of > > course it's not worth doing! It seems to be miss the point, though. > > The problem is insufficient communication, not i

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-22 Thread Neil McGovern
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 04:58:50PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Technically, fixing security vulnerabilities in packages used by on d.o > machines is an answer to your question. There's been some discussion > recently about help potentially being wanted on that score for etch > backports. > And

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-22 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If one considers appointing a DSA nagging assistant instead, then of > course it's not worth doing! It seems to be miss the point, though. > The problem is insufficient communication, not insufficient nagging. How, exactly, will that help the fact that new bui

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-22 Thread MJ Ray
Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > bill, this idea was investigated in detail and disregarded, as This looks like a personal message sent to a list in error. > that person would basicly have the job to nag the people doing > the job without being able to do any productive work. Why?

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-21 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 04:06:56PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 08:38:33PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Would you, as DPL, please try to address the original issue? > > Martin, Branden and myself have all been trying to address the original > issue as DPL; messages lik

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-21 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 04:01:47PM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > * Bill Allombert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061221 15:12]: > > As I suggested in my DPL platform, having someone reading debian-admin > > who has no DSA priviledge but handle communication issues could help > > (by providing status and E

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-21 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Bill Allombert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [061221 15:12]: > As I suggested in my DPL platform, having someone reading debian-admin > who has no DSA priviledge but handle communication issues could help > (by providing status and ETA, answering already asked questions, etc.) > without interfering with th

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-21 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 04:06:56PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > I would greatly appreciate it if people would help the process by > supporting the efforts of the DSA team consistently rather than heaping > praise on them when they fix compromises and scorn on them the rest of > the time. It would

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 04:06:56PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > I would greatly appreciate it if people would help the process by > supporting the efforts of the DSA team consistently rather than heaping > praise on them when they fix compromises and scorn on them the rest of > the time. It would

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 04:06:56PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > I would greatly appreciate it if people would help the process by > supporting the efforts of the DSA team consistently rather than heaping > praise on them when they fix compromises and scorn on them the rest of > the time. It would

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 10:43:48PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > 4) What kind of Debian Project unprivileged admin tasks are so secret >that discussion thereof must occur in private? The issue isn't that secrecy is required; just that discussing these things in public on Debian fora turns into a g

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wednesday 20 December 2006 22:06, Anthony Towns wrote: >> It would also be helpful if there were people who are able to >> commit time to do significant but boring tasks to help DSA, expecting >> neither praise, acknowledgement or, most importantly, any a

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Mike Bird
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 22:06, Anthony Towns wrote: > It would also be helpful if there were people who are able to > commit time to do significant but boring tasks to help DSA, expecting > neither praise, acknowledgement or, most importantly, any additional > rights/priveleges in return. If

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 08:38:33PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Would you, as DPL, please try to address the original issue? Martin, Branden and myself have all been trying to address the original issue as DPL; messages like the one beginning this thread don't help, and setting up unofficial aut

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Russ Allbery
Anthony Towns writes: > On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:01PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: >> It is known among debian developers that the Debian System >> Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not >> really responsive. > So apparently this complaint was immediately followed up by s

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:01PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: >> It is known among debian developers that the Debian System >> Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not >> really responsive. > > So apparently this complaint was immediately followed up by s

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Hi, > > It is known among debian developers that the Debian System > Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not > really responsive. > > Here are a few examples: > - The machine "escher.debian.org" is locked down [1] for more than 6 >months, I didn't e

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Bill Allombert
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 02:22:43AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:01PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > It is known among debian developers that the Debian System > > Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not > > really responsive. > > So apparently th

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 06:07:29PM +0100, Julien Danjou wrote: > At 1166631763 time_t, Anthony Towns wrote: > > So apparently this complaint was immediately followed up by setting up an > > emulated autobuilder not synced in with the regular buildd.debian.org > > stuff [0]. This resulted in James a

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Julien Danjou
At 1166631763 time_t, Anthony Towns wrote: > So apparently this complaint was immediately followed up by setting up an > emulated autobuilder not synced in with the regular buildd.debian.org > stuff [0]. This resulted in James and Ryan adding a quick hack to > disable arm uploads, which have remain

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 02:22:43AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:01PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > It is known among debian developers that the Debian System > > Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not > > really responsive. > > So apparently th

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Anthony Towns a écrit : > On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:01PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: >> It is known among debian developers that the Debian System >> Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not >> really responsive. > > So apparently this complaint was immediately followed up b

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 04:27:41PM +, Simon Huggins wrote: > > So apparently this complaint was immediately followed up by setting up an > > emulated autobuilder not synced in with the regular buildd.debian.org > > stuff [0]. [...] > PS you're missing your footnote. [0] http://blog.aurel32.net

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Simon Huggins
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 02:22:43AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:01PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > It is known among debian developers that the Debian System > > Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not > > really responsive. > So apparently this

Re: Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-20 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 09:06:01PM +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > It is known among debian developers that the Debian System > Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not > really responsive. So apparently this complaint was immediately followed up by setting up an emulated autobuil

Please appoint one new person to the DSA Team

2006-12-17 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Hi, It is known among debian developers that the Debian System Administration Team (aka DSA or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) is not really responsive. Here are a few examples: - The machine "escher.debian.org" is locked down [1] for more than 6 months, I didn't even get a simple answer to the few mails